新學期加學費5% - 基督教香港信義會宏信書院

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來年加學費5%, 大家有甚麼意見?
學校去年開學至今, 除了部份要上課課室完工外, 其他課室未完工及各樣設施及配套未齊, 不要說游泳池, 不知何時動工, 連最基本的圖書館都未開, 還有操場只有幾個籃球架, 幾張長凳, 提過會美化校園, 得過講字, 未見到, 可以講宏信現在是一間 "空殼" 學校, 但每月學費又收足. 感覺上學校已賺了一年錢.
來年這麼快加學費, 但加學費後, 各樣設施及配套怎樣呢? 學校話希望在26/4前收集家長們對學費調整的意見, 希望各位家長踴躍寫信發表意見. 希望學校能開一次家長會, 答覆家長疑問.
其實, 預計學校會加學費, 但要各樣設施及配套齊全, 加學費才合理.

[ 本帖最後由 SMKEN 於 11-4-21 10:28 編輯 ]

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You got some good points there!

No swimming pool as promised, an empty library, lots of unfinished construction/projects.

But this is exactly why they need the money on. Think about this, there are less than 300 students at LA at the moment, way less than the full capacity it is going to be at. Same for their income, it relies solely on this <300 students.

If we don't support "our school" now, how can we expect good facilities there?
"No improvement on facilities, no tuition raised" is a "chicken or egg" dilemma.

We might say, "it is not fair for these <300 students (s' parents) pay for all these, and the future students just enjoy the fruit"

Well, se la ve! I strongly believe we, the parents the kids and the school, are working hard to build a good school here in Yuen Long. A good school with good facilities attracts good students. A school with poor facilities is a dying school.

I think the tuition should be raised.

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唔明白, 辦一間新校, 學校是否應該有一筆足夠的資金, 用作購買新校各樣設備、設施及配套, 來配合教學、來配合學生享有正常的學校生活及環境嗎? 不是依靠收學費才有錢買新校各樣設備, 咁荒謬嗎?
況且2010年教署批淮學校收多少學生, 收到多少學費, 可否依靠收學費來維持學校, 學校很清楚知道, 我們不用擔心.
增加學費用作增添學校現有設備、設施及配套, 我贊成, 冇問題, OK 接受.
問題是現在應該有的都未齊全, 如果真的用增添學校現有設備來作借口增加學費是否不對呢?

[ 本帖最後由 SMKEN 於 11-4-22 22:57 編輯 ]

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Ok, let's talk about this, purely personal idea. No hard feeling.

SMKEN, in your first article,
"...不要說游泳池, 不知何時動工, 連最基本的圖書館都未開, 還有操場只有幾個籃球架, 幾張長凳, 提過會美化校園, 得過講字..."

SMKEN, in your second article,
"...辦一間新校, 學校是否應該有一筆足夠的資金, 用作購買新校各樣設備、設施及配套,來配合教學、來配合學生享有正常的學校生活及環境嗎?
不是依靠收學費才有錢買新校各樣設備, 咁荒謬嗎? ..."

I think your first article actually answered the questions in your second article.

I believe every new school should have a capital at start, enough to pay for the running cost and the required "設備、設施及配套,來配合教學、來配合學生享有正常的學校生活及環境". But if i understand your first article correctly (which i responded to), what you complaining were "游泳池, 圖書館 and 美化校園". Do you think these are the basic facilities a starting capital should cover?
How many schools in HKG run their own swimming pool?
All the schools in HKG have their own library? is library a basic facility all the schools MUST have? Can we expect a new school's library filling up with all kinds of books in it's first year? Could other successful schools in HKG do that in their first year?
I think I can leave "美化校園" alone without making a comment.

LA has fulfilled its promise--- "a good teaching team". Look at how many experienced, enthusiastic, local and expat teachers we have in the LA. For me, this is the most important thing! And the very reason I choose LA for my kid.
I believe it doesn't come cheap though, but the school got the priority correct. Now it needs money for other things.

Sorry about the "NICAM" thing, no chinese input in my computer, have to use "cut and paste".

And SMKEN, i have read through other articles you wrote in the Kingdom. You have my full respect and I feel your passions in the LA. I am really glad that my kid has your kid as school mate.
Let's build LA together.

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看見PLPCP的回答, 大家都知道他是校方代表還是家長, 希望可以開一次家長會, 校長堂堂正正站出來回答家長提問.

[ 本帖最後由 SMKEN 於 11-4-23 09:33 編輯 ]

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我暫時仍不是LA家長，但也去過學校幾次，講座，面試，註冊，眼見學校的基本設施尚算齊備，開學只是僅僅幾個月，校長老師都忙於準備教學與行政，這會比其他學校更辛苦好幾倍，就算有錢也可能不能即時兼顧其他設施，我可寧願校長老師們多花時間攪好軟件，讓同學適應教學模式，學校生活，然後再慢慢滲入其他硬件，這樣的進度對同學和校方都較為合適。其實選擇新校，應該有做開荒牛的心理準備，相對能有這樣的環境，老師質素，本人覺得加5%的學費都仍是十分超值。既然已選擇了LA，我會相信學校會為孩子作最好的安排。

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SMKEN, please don't assume I am a representative of the school. You started this thread and I just wanted to put in my 5 cents. You can't assume any opposite ideas to yours as "school representative's".
Look at the input time of my threads, all late at night and mostly on holidays (if not all), if a school representative is doing all these at this time of the day, i would say this school REALLY has a lot of resources and has done a lot to try to manipulate a few ideas on the internet. That doesn't seem to be the case.

I am just a parent, a parent who choose LA not because it is the most economical, not because it already has all the advance facilities. I believe i am like most of the other parents, we believe in the future of the school. I can tell you my concerns. 1st of all, the kids and even some staff are not using English at all times in school, that bothers me. And that is contrary to the school master's promise in one (or more, i only attended one) of the seminars before the school year. Secondly, the school website is really bad, the only thing that seems to work is the Principal's blog! Honestly i am more interested in other things.

I believe the school is very busy with many things, i also believe the school should organize a forum and answer our questions. But please don't use the statement "校長堂堂正正站出來回答家長提問", that, for me, sounds like we assume the principal has been doing things under the table. (Writing blog is not "under the table").

[ 本帖最後由 PLPCP 於 11-5-1 23:30 編輯 ]

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記得之前聽briefing, 剩係話泳池會遲d起好
冇講過連library都會遲
如果話唔係間間學校都有library
咁都唔係間間學校都要收學費
仲要係唔平喎.................
唔可能話有老師就足夠
配套都好緊要囉.....

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Some info for your reference

蔡繼有校加學費挽留好教師

( 星島日報報道 ) 近年直資及私立學校漸受家長歡迎，令教師人才競爭亦日趨激烈。保良局首所一條龍私校保良局蔡繼有學校於新學年，計畫將每年學費由現時約四萬二千元增至約四萬六千元，便是希望挽留及聘請優秀教師，以及提升學校設施水平。
蔡繼有學校校長劉筱玲日前接受本報專訪時透露，已向教育統籌局申請於新學年加學費一成，由現時每年約四萬二千元增至約四萬六千元。她表示，加學費主要為挽留及聘請優秀的教學人才，及提升設施水平，校方已通知家長有關情況，正等待教統局批准。

劉筱玲透露，該校自 ○ 二年創校後，一直與耀中國際學校 ( 中學部 ) 共用深水  郝德傑道校舍，由於耀中將於年底遷出現址，因此蔡繼有學校將可於明年一月重建現時的校舍，預計 ○ 九年初完成，整項工程費用達二億多元。

她預計，政府撥款一億七千萬元，其餘由學校及辦學團體承擔。她表示 ﹕ 「重建期間我們會遷至深水  的新會商會九龍學校校舍上課，我們亦已向教統局申請多一個校舍。」

劉校長表示，該校亦將積極展開一系列籌款活動，包括 ﹕ 舉辦音樂會、一人一磚及課室命名捐款活動，以支持學校長期發展。劉校長更身先士卒，捐出一百五十萬元命名新建的演藝廳，以紀念其母、擅演慈母的粵語片影星黎雯。劉校長坦言沒有籌款目標，「盡量籌，籌得多少是多少」。

在新學年，該校首批學生將升讀中一，劉校長指，該校為一條龍中小學，十二年課程中，首五年為小學，其後五年為中學，最後兩年為國際文憑課程 (IB) 。

This article was written years ago, when it was still a new school.
The important bit is,
1. They raised the tuition before they even have a campus on their own! Let alone a library!
2. Teachers are an important factor to the success of a school. I think CKY is very successful now, can the LA be the same in the future?
3. The initial capital is never enough for all facilities, even with the support from the government and PLK (for the case of CKY).
4. Again back to the original dilemma, "chicken or egg?" They don't have enough money, can't make improvement on facilities, no improvement, they can't get enough money. How do we break this cycle?

[ 本帖最後由 PLPCP 於 11-4-29 23:05 編輯 ]

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回覆 1# PLPCP 的文章

If you r still not convinced, look at this, data from government of hkg.

從細分指數分析，甲類、乙類及丙類消費物價指數在2011年3月份的按年升幅分別為5.1%、4.5%及4.1%

If the tuition doesn't follow, it actually reduces in true value. I think we can't expect a new, developing school to reduce the tuition, right?