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lyhung

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it also has cases in International School to consult psycho.....nowaday IS life is also not easy....IB in fact is a difficult course....I would say in HK it is not easy to find a good studying environment

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Don't be naive about International School. Kids conducts/moral standards need to have concerns. Also, if the family is really very "Chinese", it will create "communication problem" with your IS kids.

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annie40  Strange!  I'm very Chinese and never have 'communication problem' with my very IS kid.  發表於 13-4-30 14:14

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shadeslayer

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What made you think I am naive about IS?

Are you saying parents do not need to be concerned about moral standards as behavior if the children study in LS?

I have seen countless number of cases where IS children achieve first language level English but speak straightly Cantonese at home. What is the problem?
The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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HKTHK

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Do you mean bilingualism or something more specific like bilingual immersion?
今日佳句: 我以往也以為國際板的家長也有質素，但現在才知deal with 一些麻煩家長也不易！  

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回覆：有冇家長后侮選了國際學校，而非傳統小學？

There has been extensive research showing that the brains of bilingual / multilingual people have more active areas than monolingual . That means bilinguals utilize more sections of their brains . In the other words , they have strong cognitive  power monolingual . Further researches also show that the mastery of several languages will help them to grasp more languages . Multilinguals are more creative .  I suggest you to do more recent research on the net



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HKTHK

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I am aware of that but I am not sure what is your point though?  Depending on the definition of bilingualism, most of the people in HK are bilingual as they can communicate in two languages?
今日佳句: 我以往也以為國際板的家長也有質素，但現在才知deal with 一些麻煩家長也不易！  

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shadeslayer

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引用：回復+Littleho+的帖子 I+am+aware+of+that

原帖由 HKTHK 於 13-04-29 發表
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I am aware of that but I am not sure what is your point though?  Depending on  ...
I am also scratching my head on the point being made here by littleho.  Bilingual people are more intelligent?  Everybody can develop multilingual ability if we want to?  To what level?  First language level for multiple languages?



The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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Littleho

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回覆：有冇家長后侮選了國際學校，而非傳統小學？

Since some people in this forum believe that learning two languages drag down the linguistic level of either one language as well as the overall academic performance , many research findings suggest otherwise . In fact , there was a specific research done several years ago with two group of children who were taught either  solely  one language or two languages . The group receiving bilingual education initially have a slower learning curve than the group learning one language . After several years , the bilinguals picked up two languages at a faster momentum and finally were even more literate than the monolinguals in the same language .



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HKTHK

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本帖最後由 HKTHK 於 13-4-29 20:18 編輯

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Littleho is correct and there are research to show bilingual child has better cognitive abilities and it may also slow down aging of the brain.  I am not sure how bilingualism was defined in those research studies though.
今日佳句: 我以往也以為國際板的家長也有質素，但現在才知deal with 一些麻煩家長也不易！  

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HKTHK

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But I thought that happens in bilingual immersion and not just any bilingual programs such as teaching a language as a second language?
今日佳句: 我以往也以為國際板的家長也有質素，但現在才知deal with 一些麻煩家長也不易！  

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Littleho

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回覆：有冇家長后侮選了國際學校，而非傳統小學？

By the way , there is only one bilingual school in Hong Kong



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HKTHK

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I assume you mean KCIS?  Can you tell me what makes it a bilingual school as opposed to others like CIS, ISF or VSA?
今日佳句: 我以往也以為國際板的家長也有質素，但現在才知deal with 一些麻煩家長也不易！  

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shadeslayer

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引用：By+the+way+,+there+is+only+one+bilingual

本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 13-4-29 22:09 編輯
原帖由 Littleho 於 13-04-29 發表
By the way , there is only one bilingual school in Hong Kong

I have read bilingual education books and i do know about bilingual immersion. I agree it sounds like an interesting idea.  But my book did not tell me if bilingual immersion would produce balanced bilinguals.

I am not sure if you are right that there is only one bilingual school in HK. There may be other bilingual immersion schools in HK, SIS, KCIS or even CKY.

I do know that there is one school who are very keen on being a bilingual school.  How well it works? I am not sure. Do most students achieve balanced bilingual capability both at first language level?  No idea.



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HKTHK  Which book are you referring to?  發表於 13-4-29 22:11
The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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Littleho

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回覆：有冇家長后侮選了國際學校，而非傳統小學？

Sorry , I guess there are only two viz ISF and FIS French/English bilingual program . For CIS , the principal said CIS is dual-language school not bilingual school . She further said not everyone in the school will become bilingual , it all depends on their background and linguistic ability .

KCIS has strong emphasis on Chinese , but it does not adopt the approach of bilingual immersion . That said , students have very good Chinese standard .

ISF mirrors some of the very successful bilingual schools which allocate more teaching hours to the more difficult language (viz Chinese )in early school years  and gradually reduce the teaching hours in later school years .

Several years ago , there were comments that the Chinese standard for ISF is interior to local schools . But , I heard it has recently added a lot of workloads , raising the Chinese standard . Don't really understand the current situation .



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HKTHK

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Even as a parent, I would not go that far to say ISF is the only English/Mandarin bilingual immersion school.  I think all the schools mentioned just differ by a matter of degree.  Strictly speaking, two-way bilingual immersion is supposed to be made up of native speakers of both languages making up 50/50 of the class so even ISF would fail this test.
今日佳句: 我以往也以為國際板的家長也有質素，但現在才知deal with 一些麻煩家長也不易！  

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shadeslayer

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本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 13-4-29 22:22 編輯

What is very interesting is that parents can make their own (crude) bilingual immersion program by doing LS in Chinese primary (say 80% Chinese, 20% English) and keep their children's English sharp by home schooling, then switch to a good IS at year 7 (say 80% English and 20% Chinese) and keep their Chinese sharp by home schooling.

Of course this demands parents to have good language proficiency themselves and have adequate financial means.
The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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shadeslayer

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回覆：有冇家長后侮選了國際學校，而非傳統小學？

HKTHK

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HKTHK  Thanks  發表於 13-4-29 22:25
The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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Littleho

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Do you mean that 50% of Chinese-speaking students and 50% of English speaking students? If so, only FIS can barely meet the requirements as they carefully screen the background of each family to make sure 50:50 split

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Littleho

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There are growing Westerners sending their kids to local schools. Take a look on Kiangsu Chekiang Primary School (mainstream section), they have roughly 20-30% non-Chinese students. Some from Western countries and some from countries like Japan, Philippines, etc

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Littleho

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By the way, some KCIS students switch back to its mainstream section or other local schools

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