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有冇家長后侮選了國際學校,而非傳統小學?   [複製鏈接]

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回覆:umom 的帖子

I went to LS and got a degree from a first tier university. But I didn't enjoy learning, which I regret so much. I hope children can enjoy what they are doing and achieve with intrinsic motivation. I'm also sorry about my HK accent English and Mandarin which don't do any good in the wider social/business world.



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本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 13-3-31 19:45 編輯
hkparent 發表於 13-3-31 15:46
I went to LS and got a degree from a first tier university. But I didn't enjoy learning, which I reg ...

HK accent is fine but wrong pronunciation is not.
The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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Thanks for sharing!


So what have you observed about the differences between the IS/ LS? As a "foreigner" here, the things put me off about the LS are the constant drill on number of words learnt, which in this case, the more the merrier regardless of practical use; learning English is all about drilling the grammar; able to solve the most  complicated maths questions on top of head like a computer.... Lots of lots of homework in order to achieve the afore mentioned! As a result, the poor kid really has no time left to do something he's really good at, something outside the school works!
The whole purpose of learning is to train a smart device than showing young children to discover the joys of learning and seeking knowledge. I heard so many parents of the LS talk about pushing ahead of the peers. Every school holiday is filled with enrichment classes/ workbooks to prepare the poor kid to be ahead of the others. What is 拔尖? This is something I hear again and again especially when I passed by the bookstalls selling the workbooks.

Have I misunderstood about the LS?  

It does sound like a horrible place for schooling, BUT I WONDER why do many elite parents in HK still send their kids to LS? Or may be those kids of the true elite families actually don't play the same ball games as those mediocre parents trying to survive in those LS?



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minirat  Down to very practical and basic reasons, not all parents can afford to send their kids to IS...  發表於 13-4-2 11:30


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本帖最後由 mesmerising 於 13-3-31 23:21 編輯

umom,

As a LS parent with a son doing decent schoolwork( what LS called a band 1 尾),I do not find my son spending much of his time on drilling and revision.  He learns basketball seriously, plays a musical instrument and enjoys reading of his own choice.  our family also involve with community volunteer work and go out and get in touch with nature or go hiking on weekends. All in all, we enjoy very much most of our time. Yes, there are students in LS that drill and drill and drill.  But I personally find this not as much the problem of the curriculum than that of the parents. It is the parents playing the competitive games and hinder the holistic development of their children.  This is just my own experience to share.
And yes, when it is exam time, we do skip a weekend  on outdoorsy and drill!  But we personally do not find this too much to handle.  If you don't stress too much on grades, it can be quite an opportunity for the kid to learn time management and transferable learning skills set .
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Annie123 發表於 13-3-31 22:20
accent 其實好少事
以前還有打工時,因工作關係和不同國家的人共事,我覺得其實出面好少人理你 accent
唔 ...
同意,只要夠fluent,內容有無point先係至緊要。
咁當然如果大家都無料,咁遊花園就可能吾夠native好。

其實係香港人先咁在意accent,印度人、坡人、澳洲佬、愛爾蘭口音一樣聽死人,但無人自卑,一樣聲大大指生晒,你又何必比心魔困住自己!

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發表於 13-3-31 23:19 |只看該作者

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It's not just accent but fluency or thinking on the feet in English with fast response or use of smart vocabulary during meetings in MNCs. Of course that doesn't matter but everyone wants to be better and sharpen his own skills. It's not easy once you've become an adult.



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Jane1983  如果你介意,揾個language coach幫你執。只要你有決心,吾係無辦法!  發表於 13-4-1 11:18

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本帖最後由 FattyDaddy 於 13-4-1 13:00 編輯
umom 發表於 13-3-31 11:31
what's led to choosing the IS route?? ...

As with any major decision, there are many factors to consider, and each family's situation is unique so there are no right or wrong choices, what is right for one family could well be wrong for another.

However there is perhaps one important question which carries more weight than others, that is where in the world do you think your family will eventually reside (or spend most time in), if it is going to be somewhere in the greater China area, then local schools might be a better choice, if it is going to be somewhere in the English speaking world, then international schools would be more suitable.

I always believe education are shaped by society, the local schools in Honglong are what they are not by chance but because they churn out people who are considered "right material" for Hongkong society, so in a way, the criticisms from members of your extended family are not totally groundless, international schools might produce people who will face various difficulties if they are going to spend major parts of their lives in Hongkong, learning and using Chinese will always be an uphill battle for example. For ex-pats or Hongkongers who are leaving sooner or later, this won't matter much, but for those who don't foresee themselves going anywhere, they should think thrice before choosing the international school path.

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I completely agree.  What a brilliant answer.  I think we should all learn how to endure what the environment forces us to do and forsake our choice of education.
今日佳句: 我以往也以為國際板的家長也有質素,但現在才知deal with 一些麻煩家長也不易!  

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回覆:有冇家長后侮選了國際學校,而非傳統小學?

同意 Accent 不是太重要。不過不要把錯誤讀音硬說成 Accent 來自我安慰。

Accent: most native speakers understand you.

Wrong pronunciation: most native speakers don't understand you, or cause distraction in the conversations.

Don't mix them up.

I heard time and time again HK people pronounced the following wrong, not a question of accent in my opinion.

- Chloe
- Judith
- Account
- Claim
- Coupon
- Magnet
- crisps

Too many.



The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 13-4-1 00:31 編輯

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FattyDaddy 發表於 13-3-31 23:24
As with any major decision, there are many factors to consider, and each family's situation is uniqu ...
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I typed a response but the darn EK ate it. I am not writing it again.  This view has too many flaws than I have time tonight.

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FattyDaddy  EK censorship? Or it is the legendary EK black-hole? Anyway, its not the first time you have to come back as a new user  發表於 13-4-1 00:41
The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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HKTHK 發表於 13-3-31 23:49
回復 FattyDaddy 的帖子

I think we should all learn how to endure what the environment forces us to do and forsake our choice of education. ...
There are ideals, and then there is reality, no man is an island, unless one really wants to live on a desert island and not be a part of any society.

Education doesn't exist by itself but as a function of society, to pick an extreme example, consider the education in China, a certain amount of brainwashing is an ESSENTIAL part of it because it churns out the "right material" for that society. Play along with the system one could even be the next 習總, play against it and one might be another 劉曉波. I'm not passing judgement on whether this situation is right or wrong, it is just the way things are at the moment. One could accept it, or fight it (with an aim to change it), or leave, again, I'm not saying which action is right, it will be a political discussion I rather not get into.

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Sure! It's more the parents as well as the curriculum that torturing the poor kids!

That's why I think some parents opting for the LS may not necessarily want to play the same tough ball games and just enjoy schooling!

After all, every route has its good and less favorable sides!



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本帖最後由 Mighty 於 13-4-1 05:26 編輯

先回答正提:現在這刻的答案是「有」、但選校当刻是在無其他選択下入了ESF。 如果現在再選、会入直資。
楼上有人提到ACCENT問題、我好在意。 理由好簡単、香港好多小朋友讀一般LOCAL学校都可以学到地道的普通話、点解学不到不是広東話ACCENT的英文、香港也不是一個有普通話語境的城市、都学到、英文又是従幼稚園開始学、只要学習方法適当、無可能学不到好英文。 聴下葉劉同AUDREY EU、好自然会「覚得」AUDREY D英文好D,点解? 葉劉個人比我感覚好BIG HEADED,可能従来没有注意真正NATIVE的讀音、就以為自己字正腔圓、従不聆聴再矯正。

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luckyveronique  Could you pls pm me your comments why you feel disappointed with the school?  發表於 13-4-1 10:46
Mighty
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自分に負けるな!!

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hkparent 發表於 13-3-31 23:19
It's not just accent but fluency or thinking on the feet in English with fast response or use of sma ...

Totally agree

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shadeslayer 發表於 13-4-1 00:08
同意 Accent 不是太重要。不過不要把錯誤讀音硬說成 Accent 來自我安慰。

Accent: most native speakers  ...

Yes - classic example is  three / free / fee

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本帖最後由 ramen 於 13-8-12 14:28 編輯
Mighty 發表於 13-4-1 10:22
先回正提:現在這刻的答案是「有」、但選校当刻是在無其他選択下入了ESF。 如果現在再選、会入直資。 ...

介唔介意分享下点解後悔?因為小女將今年八月入讀ESF Year One。但亦應可以25分入讀九龍塘—所很受家長歡迎的女校。謝~

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RAMEN,不如講下你点解選択ESF? 我就、、、我当年因為従外国回流、小朋友不識中文、根本無MAAK選択、意外地ESF有位給我、上午INTERVIEW個陣時都知道会入到、小朋友又未讀過任何幼稚園、ESF都収、覚得「zUP」到、於是便入了。
Mighty
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自分に負けるな!!

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發表於 13-4-1 15:44 |只看該作者

引用:Quote:shadeslayer+發表於+13-4-1+00:08+同

原帖由 DreamKid 於 13-04-01 發表
Yes - classic example is  three / free / fee
Or Fuel, Feel, Fill.

These problems would cause confusion with native English Speakers. Pushing them aside to the category of accent and say they are not important is kidding no one but oneself.



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