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發表於 07-6-21 11:52 |只看該作者

Re: SIS / ISF

yyyy 寫道:
不要這樣說, 始終在香港讀local school占大部份,不可以說考試100分的學生都是靠死背..靠短期記憶,他們徊他們的父母都付出很大的努力!如果靠死背就科科100分,就沒有人成績不合格了..




下? 我的意思唔係話 "100分 = 死背 " 喎。
我 d 細路都經常 spelling 滿分,一 d 都唔係死背。


我本來的 message,係回應你對國際學校內 "評估" 的誤解。我講的係國際學校的做法;local school 點做,唔係討論範圍,亦唔關我事。

不過,我一向都覺得你好鍾意將網友的 message 斷章取義;一係你的理解力有問題,一係你專登撩交嗌。

either way,我唔想再回應你喇。

  


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nintendo:

我並不覺得yyyy發表的意見有什麽攻擊或挑釁性(既是你所說的“專登撩交嗌”),在上述的多篇的議論中,我也不覺得她有什麽“斷章取義”的地方,最多也只能說是大家文字之間誤錯了對方的意思而已。正如yyyy自己向coreymami說:“對不起, 我沒有說沒有考試的學校有什麼不好,只是考試也有考試的好...令妳誤會了!”

這是一個討論區,大家都會發表一些自己的想法,無形中就會表現出我們個人主觀性的看法,所以實無必要說人家什麽“理解有問題”、“專登撩交嗌”這些會傷害他人的話語。

這個標題是“SIS/ISF”,所以我們應該回到本身的主題上來討論。在這裡,且容許我引用christf的一句話:“.....However, ISF is still very young and there are still quite a number of problems that need time to be fixed or resolved. ”這也是我對現時ISF的看法。

nintendo 寫道:
[quote]
yyyy 寫道:
不要這樣說, 始終在香港讀local school占大部份,不可以說考試100分的學生都是靠死背..靠短期記憶,他們徊他們的父母都付出很大的努力!如果靠死背就科科100分,就沒有人成績不合格了..




下? 我的意思唔係話 "100分 = 死背 " 喎。
我 d 細路都經常 spelling 滿分,一 d 都唔係死背。


我本來的 message,係回應你對國際學校內 "評估" 的誤解。我講的係國際學校的做法;local school 點做,唔係討論範圍,亦唔關我事。

不過,我一向都覺得你好鍾意將網友的 message 斷章取義;一係你的理解力有問題,一係你專登撩交嗌。

either way,我唔想再回應你喇。

  [/quote]

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發表於 07-6-21 16:23 |只看該作者

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nintendo:

我並不覺得yyyy發表的意見有什麽攻擊或挑釁性(既是你所說的“專登撩交嗌”),在上述的多篇的議論中,我也不覺得她有什麽“斷章取義”的地方,最多也只能說是大家文字之間誤錯了對方的意思而已。正如yyyy自己向coreymami說:“對不起, 我沒有說沒有考試的學校有什麼不好,只是考試也有考試的好...令妳誤會了!”

這是一個討論區,大家都會發表一些自己的想法,無形中就會表現出我們個人主觀性的看法,所以實無必要說人家什麽“理解有問題”、“專登撩交嗌”這些會傷害他人的話語。

這個標題是“SIS/ISF”,所以我們應該回到本身的主題上來討論。在這裡,且容許我引用christf的一句話:“.....However, ISF is still very young and there are still quite a number of problems that need time to be fixed or resolved. ”這也是我對現時ISF的看法。


nintendo 寫道:
[quote]
yyyy 寫道:
不要這樣說, 始終在香港讀local school占大部份,不可以說考試100分的學生都是靠死背..靠短期記憶,他們徊他們的父母都付出很大的努力!如果靠死背就科科100分,就沒有人成績不合格了..




下? 我的意思唔係話 "100分 = 死背 " 喎。
我 d 細路都經常 spelling 滿分,一 d 都唔係死背。


我本來的 message,係回應你對國際學校內 "評估" 的誤解。我講的係國際學校的做法;local school 點做,唔係討論範圍,亦唔關我事。

不過,我一向都覺得你好鍾意將網友的 message 斷章取義;一係你的理解力有問題,一係你專登撩交嗌。

either way,我唔想再回應你喇。

  [/quote]

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發表於 07-6-21 18:10 |只看該作者

Re: SIS / ISF

very difficult to make a decision,

one has got track record but is similiar to local school, yet got a good record of being accepted into international secondary school.

the other is deeply rooted in chinese culture and is like an international school but its chinese standard is extremly high.
:-?

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發表於 07-6-21 18:30 |只看該作者

Re: SIS / ISF

cs1980 寫道:
very difficult to make a decision,

one has got track record but is similiar to local school, yet got a good record of being accepted into international secondary school.

the other is deeply rooted in chinese culture and is like an international school but its chinese standard is extremly high.


The schools are so very different just as you described. So, I, on the other hand, think that it should not be difficult to make a decision.

One more thing to bear in mind though, ISF is not an international school. Plus, their emphasis during P1-3 would be Chinese and their proportion of using Chinese is much much more than SIS. In fact the emphasis on Chinese would seem to be even more than some local English medium primary schools. So on the other hand, it would be quite normal if their English standard is not as high as SIS.


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發表於 07-6-22 10:00 |只看該作者

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cs1980,

You are right. I have a colleague whose daughter graduated from SIS and she's now in GSIS. Then I started searching more information on SIS.

I liked SIS because as christf had said, SIS is similar to SPCC, DBSPD, etc. Whether SIS is a "real IS" is not my concern.

I believe most SIS graduates can manage the syllabus of those traditional top /elite local secondary schools too.
cs1980 寫道:
very difficult to make a decision,

one has got track record but is similiar to local school, yet got a good record of being accepted into international secondary school.

the other is deeply rooted in chinese culture and is like an international school but its chinese standard is extremly high.


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發表於 07-6-22 10:35 |只看該作者

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christf,

Yes, you are right.

But there're just too many smart kids around and too few through-train elite schools. If one of the parents is not an alumnus or has the same religion, it would be very very difficult to get an entry ticket to these elite local schools.:cry:

So I think SIS is a good alternative for those "quality" kids suitable for such "education style" but failing to enter  SPCC, DBSPD, etc.


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**still get a lot of other choices such as those private or DSS as there are so many of them and some of them even will adopt IB if their parents don't prefer the IS style of education.**

Besides PLK CKY and ISF, please name a few "other choices", please.......
    
christf 寫道:

"quality" kids suitable for such "education style" but failing to enter SPCC, DBSPD ---

still get a lot of other choices such as those private or DSS as there are so many of them and some of them even will adopt IB if their parents don't prefer the IS style of education.

"quality" kids whose parents prefer the IS style of eudcation would try to enter those through-train and REAL IS first.


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發表於 07-6-22 11:47 |只看該作者

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christf,

I have considered these schools before, but....

Creative - English level not upto my expectation.
HKUGA - they're taking the new 3+3+4, not IB. English level not upto my expectation too.
Logo - I think the Principal is a real salesman.
EC - too new for me to consider at this moment.
Pui Kui - they're taking the new 3+3+4, not IB.

For St Stephen & Victoria - What is the average "quality" of their student intake? Which one is better in terms of average academic achievement?

Please correct me if I am wrong. Thanks for your advice!

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發表於 07-6-23 00:57 |只看該作者

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owenmami,

I have a son studying in PY1 of SIS. A few things I wish to share with you:

1. Singapore Chinese,

This is a very interesting issue. I don't know how significant it is, but terminologies of some common nouns and the style of writing are different among HK, Mainland China, and Taiwan. For example., 酒店, 飯店,賓館 mean totally different things in these three places.

2.Singlish accent,

Yes, you will hear some people (mostly staff) speak English with Singlish accent when you walk along in SIS campus. However the language teachers are all 'native' speakers. I take this as a bonus for my son, since I think if a person can only speak or understand 'Noble' English nowadays will be in a disadvantage position. All through my professional career, I came across people speaking American English, Australian English, Scottish English, Irish English, Welish English, Scandinavian English, Hewbral English, Malaysian English, Philipines English, Singapore English, Myanmarese English........even Shieldfield English, Manchester English, Newcastle English. Some of them are top scholars, professionals and lecturing worldwide.

3. Traditional style of teaching,

I don't know what is traditional teaching method. In PY of SIS, they have homework only at weekend and the amount I think is miminal. The teaching is of activity base and emphasize on reading. There is reading programme for the students (Chinese books are from Beijing International School). They also have show and tell almost everyday.

4.Pressure on academic,

I think pressure on academic is inevitable if you want to have good academic results. Yes, they have exam, but the exam is not to screen out student like what happen in 'local elite school', which I think is the most important. I haven't heard of a single case that a student is expelled or advised to leave SIS due to academic reason. If you imagine a school use continuous assessment and they use this to screen student and differentiate them into band one, two etc. and to expel those less able students, the continue assessment will become 'contiinue examination' and the student will be under pressure all year round. I take exam as a review for the teachers and students to conclude what they have learnt and what their strength and weakness are, although I think the teachers most probably know before hand. However, one thing I have to remind you that SIS runs a rigorous maths and science programme. I won't say that it is good or bad, but it may not be suitable for all kids.

5. SIS is a Singapore local school in Hong Kong,

Yes, it just like HKIS is a local American school, CDNIS is a local Canadian school......., SIS is a Singapore school in Hong Kong. They use Singapore curriculum and prepare the students to take the Singapore Primary School Leaving Examination (PSLE)(which is to screen students to different schools) but it is not compulsory. In these few years, only a couple of students take this exam.. A through train education from Preparatory years to Primary to Secondary and Pre-University levels. (Starting with 2 classes of Secondary 1 in Aug 2007) is provided. Don't be misled by 小孩不笨, this movie discribes what is happening in Singapore not in SIS. For your information,they will take International General Certificate of Secondary Education (IGCSE) at Year 10, and I heard that they are considering the new Cambridge exam or IB for the pre-U level.

6.The overall academic standards including the English standards of those elite local school are much higher than SIS,

I don't know, and I think no one knows. Since SIS has never taken part in local public exam, so, where is the yard-stick? I only know that in the past, most of SIS students manage to get a place in other IS like GSIS, CIS, ESF and other 'elite local schools'. However, the situation will change since SIS will have its own secondary school ( this is one of the reasons I send my son to SIS although he got a place in CIS. Someone may call me idiot! Ha! Ha!)

Another thing, three of the six youngstory tellers in the first youngstoryteller series come from SIS (www.youngstoryteller.com). You may also find out creativity of some of the SIS students.

My intention is not to persuade you to send your kid to SIS nor to say SIS is a very good school. I just want you not to be misled by someone who won't spare a chance to step down on SIS.

P.S. . Please note that I do not address to christf.

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發表於 07-6-23 01:22 |只看該作者

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Thank you very much, owenmami,

you give me more useful information about SIS.  My son is now around 3 and half.  Actually, I'm thinking to let him apply for SIS or Renaissance (ESF) at Ma On Shan?  I've heard many good things about SIS.  But I really worry a bit about the simplified characters taught in SIS.  For RC, it is too far from where I live (Hong Kong side).  What do you think?

Any idea about ESF (Quarry Bay)???

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發表於 07-6-23 13:11 |只看該作者

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一條毛:

Thank you for you giving so many valued advices. I can make up my mind now.

BTW, 我女兒是SIS今年PY1的新生。

Thank you again for the sharing. It's really informative and helpful.



一條毛 寫道:

owenmami,

I have a son studying in PY1 of SIS. A few things I wish to share with you:

1. Singapore Chinese, ............


2.Singlish accent, ............


3. Traditional style of teaching, ...........


4.Pressure on academic, .............


5. SIS is a Singapore local school in Hong Kong, ....


6.The overall academic standards including the English standards of those elite local school are much higher than SIS, .........


.........My intention is not to persuade you to send your kid to SIS nor to say SIS is a very good school. I just want you not to be misled by someone who won't spare a chance to step down on SIS.

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發表於 07-6-23 20:08 |只看該作者

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一條毛,

Thank you very much for your valuable advice.
I have a few friends with kids studying in SIS. All of them are very satisfied with the school and their kids don't speak Singlish.
Do share more with us when you have time!

Inmama,

I believe SIS is a good school with high academic standard. I really don't understand why many people don't even bother to find out more about this school.
Sorry that I don't know anything about Quarry Bay School. For me, I don't want to teach my kid Chinese at home.


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