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Re: Field Trips

papa_pop 寫道:
... Similarly, international school students in HK who possess 'native accent' - that draws admiration from 'some' parents - could find it hard to write a fine article.

Really?? Or this is your own thoughts only? Suggest you visit some real international schools to see what they write, especially in upper primary.

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Re: Field Trips

In fact, I had had totally different 'thought' - conventional wisdom as you may say - until some real-life 'experience' working with some graduates of IS schools.  They are by no means exemplary, and it's just fair to say that there are many graduates who can speak and write to an exceptionally high level.

I didn't mean to disparage any school, whether it's a local or IS. But as a parent, I would not embrace an illusion that a school - CKY is no exception - works like a machine and never fails to 'output' a kid to your great expectation.

Parents surely have different views on schools and I respect their discerning decisions for their kids.

Once I considered enrolling my kid to an IS - for their curriculum and (yes) English learning. However, when CKY admitted my kid, I found my choice increasingly suitable for my kid.

He has a better grip of English than of Chinese. He has intentionally evaded picking up a Chinese book - it follows that he had shown little improvement in Chinese in the first few months of the first semester.  We were at pains to read Chinese books with him. Thanks should go to his Chinese teacher who has shown much patience and been monitoring his progress all along.  I dare not say his Chinese standard is above average. But this experience has given us a hard lesson - that Chinese is not necessarily easier to learn for HK kids.

With the increasing importance the world attaches to the Chinese language (Time magazine put "Get Ahead, Learn Mandarin" as its cover story last June), I am thankful that a school could provide a bilingual education.

Again, just my five cents worth.

WYmom 寫道:
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papa_pop 寫道:
... Similarly, international school students in HK who possess 'native accent' - that draws admiration from 'some' parents - could find it hard to write a fine article.

Really?? Or this is your own thoughts only? Suggest you visit some real international schools to see what they write, especially in upper primary.[/quote]

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發表於 07-3-29 14:33 |只看該作者

Re: Field Trips

papa_pop,

Do you think that CKY's bilingual approach is run similar to Victoria, Yew Chung or ISF? Only that it won't accept outside students anytime at any grades. In which aspect is CKY better than the other 3 bilingual schools?

If CKY aims to provide high quality bilingual IBD education at the end, do you think that they need to increase the school fees much more to achieve that? Or is PLK subsidizing a lot? (As Yew Chung or ISF charge over $10K per month starting from primary).

Thanks.

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發表於 07-3-29 15:42 |只看該作者

Re: Bilingual Schools

Sorry to say that I don't know much about the 3 schools you mentioned, but the most noticeable difference is that the school fees of CKY are the lowest among them. I guess the student-teacher ratios at YC and ISF are also lower.

I am not particularly good at numbers, but for private schools, there are way more factors in play than the school fee, say, profit or not-for-profit, and school management. Apart from the funding from PLK, Mr Choi Kai Yau also generously provides financial support to the school.

I dare not say CKY is better than the other schools.  But from what I gathered from the various BK discussions, here are some points worth noting:
- YC is positioned as an international school although some people have expressed their concern over the varying standards (esp. English) of its intakes.
- Victoria is one of the few through-train schools in HK providing IBO curriculum from primary to secondary.
- ISF seems to encourage its students to pick up PTH in lower primary before immersing them in an English-dominated environment. It's a daring try and I admire it.

After all, CKY is a new school and we are not sure if it can live up to its vision.  What I can say is... so far, so good.

P.S. Interested parents can take a look at the English and Chinese theses of its Year 5 students.  I am quite impressed with them... well, you may say my benchmark is low though.

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發表於 07-3-29 15:57 |只看該作者

Re: Bilingual Schools

papa_pop,

Thanks for your reply. I just thought that you might have done some research on CKY vs other schools before you chose it. I know that CKY is very very popular now, I just still don't know how it is different from or better than other similar bilingual schools. There are more and more new bilingual schools, e.g. Baptist U Primary, Pui Kiu... all seems to use similar approach! It is very difficult to choose among these non-traditional bilingual new schools. Anyway, thanks for your sharing.

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Re: Bilingual Schools

Dear WY,

Regarding Baptist U Primary, Pui Kiu, I can supplement a bit. It's true for lower primary, their approach are more or less the same, but since Baptist U secondary school will feed their student to corresponding U., Pui Kiu principal did told me they would not opt for IB since it's too expensive. It means they need to switch back to traditional system sometime afterwards and most likely in upper pri. to lower secondary. That's my concern and just back to duck feeding situation unless whole HK education system did changed at that time but I see little chance of being like that at the moment.

I did admit "it is very difficult to choose among these non-traditional bilingual new schools" and just seems by chance to find suitable one for our kids. We can only trust our sensation and numerous discussions to spot out which school can commit their promise.

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發表於 07-3-29 18:20 |只看該作者

Re: Bilingual Schools

Dear CKY Parents

Any "insider news" about the status of the P1 primary school? It's turning April!

(I'm a P1 parent-to-be.)

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Re: Temp Campus for 07 Yr1 Students

Dear Chocoball,

The Principal revealed in the Parents Night that letters will be sent out in Easter to inform the exact location. The school will invite those upcoming Yr 1 parents to visit the temporary campus to see whether they are willing to send their children to CKY. However, she hadn't revealed the exact location, but she assured us that the location is good (let's see).

For transportation arrangement, all school buses will stop at Kwong Lee Road campus first, then will go to Yr1 campus.

That's what we heard so far.

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Re: Temp Campus for 07 Yr1 Students

Dear kyliema2006

Thank you so much for your sharing. Can't wait ...


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Re: Bilingual Schools

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Re: Temp Campus for 07 Yr1 Students

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Re: Bilingual Schools

Dear ckwliu,

現實是，蔡繼有每年都有部份學生被勸籲留級，亦有部份學生要找補習老師。本人推測（可能會過於武斷），在蔡繼有讀書而要找補習老師的學生，可能希望追上學校的程度。希望由補習而令學業精益求精的，可能屬極少數。故你老師的經驗亦可能如此，在維多利亞要找補習的，可能是較弱的一群。

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Confidence vs Arrogance

Hi ckwliu,

According to the official website of IBO, Victoria Shanghai Academy has been authorised to offer both PYP and MYP, but not (yet) DP.

Thanks for pointing out that some students do 'think' their English is perfect when they can speak well, and that they are unwilling to learn or further improve, esp. on their writing skills. One can easily fall into this trap as he/she is being "looked up to". Confidence can easily be confused with arrogance.

While I do give my kid a lot of encouragement and praise, I remind him that the sky is the limit when it comes to knowledge.

正所謂：文無第一，武無第二

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Re: Temp Campus for 07 Yr1 Students

Dear ckwliu

Yes, your memory serves you right. I'm an "islander" too. Do you think there is still a slim chance that the temp campus will be on the island?


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Re: Confidence vs Arrogance

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Re: Temp Campus for 07 Yr1 Students

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Re: Confidence vs Arrogance

Exactly... as we all witness now. My heartfelt thanks!

stjoboldboy 寫道:
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papa_pop 寫道:
Hi ckwliu,

While I do give my kid a lot of encouragement and praise, I remind him that the sky is the limit when it comes to knowledge.

正所謂：文無第一，武無第二

引用錯啦,呢句諺語唔係咁用架, 應該用例如 “一山還有一山高”貼切D!

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Re: Confidence vs Arrogance

也來凑一下熱鬧，例如：'學海無涯'，又或'學無止境'。


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Re: Confidence vs Arrogance

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