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王家爸爸

積奇百事 發表於 16-7-6 14:53
想請教一下, "點解DSE成績係咁", 其實你指乜呢? 因為我唔係太識分.
照表面數據睇, 英華係無得同皇仁, 英皇, ...

從成績上，其實數據好明顯係YWC、WYK、SPC都會唔係B1上游。跟DBS、LSC唔同，呢三間都唔願意多講學術表現。升大學比率中，水份有幾多，真係唔知道。要詳細分析，需要學校供應更多資料。
但係可以從入學講座既資料感覺一下，尤其係資源投入、校友網絡同課外活動：

從進步潛力睇，WYK（資源投入）明顯好好多。

校友網絡：WYK、SPC明顯好好多。

從課外活動睇，WYK、SPC明顯比較YWC好。



如果現在揀學校，估以後既成就，我會排WYK＞SPC＞YWC。

NeoMom

王家爸爸 發表於 16-7-6 15:19
從成績上，其實數據好明顯係YWC、WYK、SPC都會唔係B1上游。跟DBS、LSC唔同，呢三間都唔願意多講學術表現。 ...

如果講課外活動例如體育, 應該係YWC好過WY及SPC

KikiDaddy

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There is no concensus for the definition of local university degree admission rate. Some schools will count only those JUPAS UCG-funded programmes  while other may include the JUPAS self-financed programmes or even non JUPAS programmes.

Schools with good public examination results and university admission rate tend to be have higher level of transparency in information disclosure, whether in the school websites or annual reports.

積奇百事

KikiDaddy 發表於 16-7-6 15:31
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There is no concensus for the definition of local university degree admission  ...

D DATA 係你之前叫人睇概 LINK 入面抄黎.
http://www.edu-kingdom.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3241251&extra=page%3D6

而我相信你講概野, hkpapa852 應該巳經 HANDLE 左.

王家爸爸

KikiDaddy 發表於 16-7-6 15:31
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There is no concensus for the definition of local university degree admission  ...

If you ask me to rate a school by estimating its academic performance, I will be more conservative with those being unable to have higher level of transparency in information disclosure.  
Some information may be hidden.

王家爸爸

積奇百事 發表於 16-7-6 15:44
D DATA 係你之前叫人睇概 LINK 入面抄黎.
http://www.edu-kingdom.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=32412 ...

升中揀學校唔可以全睇網上資料，需要去唔同學校既開放日同入學講座，親自感受下。幾年前揀學校時，我每次都搵啲同學仔傾下，睇下佢哋點講間學校。

papapabababa81

王家爸爸 發表於 16-7-6 15:48
If you ask me to rate a school by estimating its academic performance, I will be more conservative w ...

I see... That means you don't just take a conservative view of YWC, but also SPC and some other so-called better schools to you as they don't disclose much information either ...

NeoMom

NeoMom 發表於 16-7-6 15:23
如果講課外活動例如體育, 應該係YWC好過WY及SPC

"游泳，三間都唔夠DBS、LSC、SJC比。 "

音樂及其他很難比較, 運動有個紫荊盃SUMMARISE晒各校在各項目上的總分, DBS 342, LS 299, YW  201, WYHK 146, SPC 104, 都唔可以話接近

twotwoshing

其實在不同領域互有勝負，足球籃球ywc好，田徑游水wyk勁，就係咁先好睇嘛，唯一係dbs在不同運動領域都領先，好悶。

KikiDaddy

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I believe most of the school information obtained by hkpapa852 is from the school annual report and website. If the schools do not disclose their infromation on a consistent basis, I don't think hkpapa852 can align the information accordingly.

That's why parents need to exercise their own judgement to interpret the data and make a conservative assumption if there is any shadow of doubt.  

Besides, you can always go to the admission talk and clarify with the principal and teachers about such information directly.

KikiDaddy

My impression is YWC's school management is not too care about its DSE results. Focus is more on extra-curricular activities. So for the 50 seats allocated to external students, preference will be given to students with talents in sports and music.

A good learning atmostphere is a must for a school with good DSE results. In most cases, such atmosphere cannot be just created by the school. It must have sufficient good students.

YWC has one of the best feeder primary school YWPS. If YWC can give the confidence to YWPS parents and retain most of its best students, its DSE results should show obvious improvement a few years later. Otherwise, top YWPS students will just go to other secondary schools and YWC DSE results will probably remain the same.

積奇百事

KikiDaddy 發表於 16-7-6 16:52
My impression is YWC's school management is not too care about its DSE results. Focus is more on ext ...

依個正係另一個問題, 我見到有現有書院家長對學校不滿. 諗住要轉校. 所以至想了解清楚書院概問題.

TSUNTINGMA

我可以告訴你，現在書院正面對舊生流失，老師做不長的嚴重問題，過幾年的DSE的成績應完全反映出來!

KikiDaddy

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A new good principal can turnaround the situation quickly as we can see the improvement in DBS, two WY and SPC after the principal change.

TSUNTINGMA

這談何容易!

章太郎

KikiDaddy 發表於 16-7-6 20:59
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A new good principal can turnaround the situation quickly as we can see the  ...

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KikiDaddy

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If you read DBS' recent annual report, you can see the gradual improvement in DSE results.
Besides, DBS put a higher requirement of Chinese proficiency on the S1 admission selection. It demonstrates that the school has recognized its problem and find some measures to address the issue.

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王家爸爸 發表於 16-7-6 15:48
If you ask me to rate a school by estimating its academic performance, I will be more conservative with those being unable to have higher level of transparency in information disclosure.
Some information may be hidden.

心水清！

akys

呢幾家成績現時都係海軍鬥水兵，唯有靠遠景。換咗校長嘅要等幾年睇成績，轉直資過渡期嘅又要等幾年睇親生仔，大家仲有幾年可以繼續估估下。
不過，各一條龍學校應該有分加，始終裏面有部份係B2，B3生。

akys

YWC年報有樣好，列出每年嘅Pre－S1成績，而在2014－2015年度大幅提升，而呢班算來就是第一屆直資所謂親生仔。一年唔多準，睇多一兩年就知英小大概水平（當佢哋有認真做卷，而其中有25－30%外來生），再過多四年，就冇得好講，是龍是蟲，冇得抵賴了。Pre－S1分數高了，如果6年後DSE冇顯著上升，要考慮讀唔讀得過了。不過，到時又會有人話一年唔準，睇多兩三年，或者話換咗校長（小學中學都可以），未來一定更好！

話時話，啲中文真係比較弱，只是高於平均分十個巴仙左右，會唔會考慮取消普教中？或者唔要愉快，換個校長，轉谷成績？