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作者: Julybabe    時間: 19-7-24 22:01     標題: Thanks all for comments

本帖最後由 Julybabe 於 19-8-10 10:14 編輯

想請問為什麼這幾年聖心書院banding好像下滑得好犀利由1a跌落1b/1b... 有沒有原因?而且聽聞入U率也下降?同想問每年有冇同學入到神科?thanks

作者: 1998Ruby1998    時間: 19-7-25 01:19

佢只出 3322 同本地大學率,都冇咩大變動,banding 無從判斷....
作者: annie133    時間: 19-7-25 06:48

1998Ruby1998 發表於 19-7-25 01:19
佢只出 3322 同本地大學率,都冇咩大變動,banding 無從判斷....

通常成績愈好會出得愈detail, 自己演譯。

作者: 王家爸爸    時間: 19-7-25 08:21

Julybabe 發表於 19-7-24 22:01
想請問為什麼這幾年聖心書院banding好像下滑得好犀利  由1a跌落1b/1b... 有沒有原因?而且聽聞入U率也下降 ...
聖心書院從來都唔係 B1A,佢哋既 banding 係有啲下滑,但係唔算好犀利,都仍然係 B1B 左右。

入U率亦都無下降,2017 年仲係近年高位(但係都係只有 6 成)。至於有冇同學入到神科,意義唔大,因為即使係差既學校,都一定有黑天鵝,何況係 B1 學校。

近年入 U 率:

2013

2014

2015

2016

2017

2018

62.2%

55.7%

57.5%

58.4%

64.2%

58.8%



作者: sunflower2000    時間: 19-7-25 08:26

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這入U率又如何解讀?
作者: Julybabe    時間: 19-7-25 08:27

王家爸爸 發表於 19-7-25 08:21
聖心書院從來都唔係 B1A,佢哋既 banding 係有啲下滑,但係唔算好犀利,都仍然係 B1B 左右。

入U率亦都無 ...

thanks for the figures.  I have another question - it appears to me that this school is more inclined to the traditional/ local style which means more pushy, then what is the reason why there is slippage in maintaining a good top tier banding? as compared to other less pushy ones say mss? thanks for any views.

作者: 王家爸爸    時間: 19-7-25 08:43

sunflower2000 發表於 19-7-25 08:26
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這入U率又如何解讀?
因為學校公佈既資料唔多,無詳細 DSE 成績做對照,所以唔可能知道入U率既水份有幾多。基於 Occam's Razor 法則,最簡單既假設係 annie133 所講,成績愈好會出得愈詳細,所以我認為應該有水份,但係實際數字點都有四、五成。
作者: 王家爸爸    時間: 19-7-25 08:53

Julybabe 發表於 19-7-25 08:27
thanks for the figures.  I have another question - it appears to me that this school is more inclin ...
All Canossian schools are relatively more rigidly focused on academics and tend to assign way too much homework to their students.
However, recent studies found that the quality of schools is not related to the quantity of homework given and the rigidness of the schools concerned.  That's the reason why MSS has much better DSE results that that of SHCC.  However, many parents, especially those new immigrants, often judged a school by the amount of homework given.

作者: hkpapa852    時間: 19-7-25 08:54

Julybabe 發表於 19-7-24 22:01
想請問為什麼這幾年聖心書院banding好像下滑得好犀利  由1a跌落1b/1b... 有沒有原因?而且聽聞入U率也下降 ...
任何學校公開試成績都有起跌,何必太在乎什麼B1A/B/C呢?
而且如果本身唔係兩間聖小既學生,恐怕亦唔係咁易入到。

作者: 王家爸爸    時間: 19-7-25 08:59

hkpapa852 發表於 19-7-25 08:54
任何學校公開試成績都有起跌,何必太在乎什麼B1A/B/C呢?
而且如果本身唔係兩間聖小既學生,恐怕亦唔係咁易 ...
兩間聖小勁既學生先入到,所以其實學校收生質素應該相當高,但係高收生質素反映唔到係 DSE 成績度,原因係嘜?
作者: Julybabe    時間: 19-7-25 09:01

王家爸爸 發表於 19-7-25 08:53
All Canossian schools are relatively more rigidly focused on academics and tend to assign way too mu ...

thanks again, so what you are saying is students from these Canossian schools are preoccupied/ overloaded with homework, hence less time for quality study?

if that's the case, why then st Mary's can maintain b1a under the same Canossian community ? thanks

作者: Julybabe    時間: 19-7-25 09:09

王家爸爸 發表於 19-7-25 08:59
兩間聖小勁既學生先入到,所以其實學校收生質素應該相當高,但係高收生質素反映唔到係 DSE 成績度,原因係 ...

exactly! my impression is this school is a pushy one (correct if I'm wrong) however the way they teach doesn't seem to be effective as reflected by the results. so what has gone wrong is the issue which I'm trying to figure out..

作者: hkpapa852    時間: 19-7-25 09:14

王家爸爸 發表於 19-7-25 08:59
兩間聖小勁既學生先入到,所以其實學校收生質素應該相當高,但係高收生質素反映唔到係 DSE 成績度,原因係 ...
現實學校無公佈過任何DSE成績, 好與唔好, 只係大家感覺而己

只係好好奇, 點解咁多年D家長都可以咁齊心, 連火點風聲都漏唔到出街


作者: Julybabe    時間: 19-7-25 09:17

hkpapa852 發表於 19-7-25 09:14
現實學校無公佈過任何DSE成績, 好與唔好, 只係大家感覺而己

只係好好奇, 點解咁多年D家長都可以咁齊心, 連 ...

本帖最後由 Julybabe 於 19-7-25 09:18 編輯

well then.. this supports the thread above which says 成績吾好先無details... still if anyone can help me rationalize why a pushy school yet declining/declined results please? thanks again all

作者: 王家爸爸    時間: 19-7-25 09:23

Julybabe 發表於 19-7-25 09:01
thanks again, so what you are saying is students from these Canossian schools are preoccupied/ over ...
I really don't know.  St. Mary's isn't transparent enough with their DSE results, so it is difficult to know the real situation. But from the school reports, it said "172 students took part in HKDSE 2018.  97.1% of students met the minimum entrance requirement for local Bachelor degree courses". Therefore, the only firm conclusion we can draw is St. Mary's did a good job of "catering for learner differences".
作者: hkpapa852    時間: 19-7-25 09:24

Julybabe 發表於 19-7-25 09:17
本帖最後由 Julybabe 於 19-7-25 09:18 編輯

well then.. this supports the thread above which says  ...

其實QC咁多年都係無主動公佈公開試成績, 只係有家長開心share學校既"非公開"既資料

所以學校唔公佈公開試成績, 係咪一定代表差呢?

DBS早幾年乜都唔公佈, 到近年有少許資料公佈, 其實反而成績係仲差咗.......



作者: 王家爸爸    時間: 19-7-25 09:26

hkpapa852 發表於 19-7-25 09:14
現實學校無公佈過任何DSE成績, 好與唔好, 只係大家感覺而己

只係好好奇, 點解咁多年D家長都可以咁齊心, 連 ...
但係學校有公佈入U率,所以可以估到DSE成績最差係點。


作者: Julybabe    時間: 19-7-25 09:31

王家爸爸 發表於 19-7-25 09:23
I really don't know.  St. Mary's isn't transparent enough with their DSE results, so it is difficult ...

oh have these schools not publicized their public exam results? then what was the basis for these people who rank them according to school banding?

I thought there exists some sort of publicly accessible statistics (of each secondary school in hk), then ppl can make reference to it and analyze, and then to come up with banding/ ranking for comparison..

作者: annie133    時間: 19-7-25 09:35

王家爸爸 發表於 19-7-25 08:21
聖心書院從來都唔係 B1A,佢哋既 banding 係有啲下滑,但係唔算好犀利,都仍然係 B1B 左右。

入U率亦都無 ...

入u率是八大定三大定全部(包外國)?

作者: Julybabe    時間: 19-7-25 09:36

王家爸爸 發表於 19-7-25 09:26
但係學校有公佈入U率,所以可以估到DSE成績最差係點。

入U rate is the 3 top uni or all of them (8 is it in hk noawadays?)

with reference to the figures given above, if there is less then 60% going to all of the available uni in hk including poly bu etc.... then sacred heart results is pretty daunting to me

作者: Julybabe    時間: 19-7-25 09:37

annie133 發表於 19-7-25 09:35
入u率是八大定三大定全部(包外國)?

same ask.. but I believe it includes all uni in hk exclude those overseas

作者: 王家爸爸    時間: 19-7-25 09:45

annie133 發表於 19-7-25 09:35
入u率是八大定三大定全部(包外國)?
所以我話應該有水份,但係水份幾多,真係個謎。
作者: storymum    時間: 19-7-25 10:01

王家爸爸 發表於 19-7-25 09:45
所以我話應該有水份,但係水份幾多,真係個謎。

好奇一問,邊d學校係band 1A 而又明確分開公佈三大、八大⋯⋯DSE 成績?

作者: hkpapa852    時間: 19-7-25 10:29

storymum 發表於 19-7-25 10:01
好奇一問,邊d學校係band 1A 而又明確分開公佈三大、八大⋯⋯DSE 成績?
你要全部資料都齊全兼詳細, 答案係: 沒有

作者: Julybabe    時間: 19-7-25 10:32

王家爸爸 發表於 19-7-25 08:59
兩間聖小勁既學生先入到,所以其實學校收生質素應該相當高,但係高收生質素反映唔到係 DSE 成績度,原因係 ...

so is it fair to say the way sacred heart educate its student is ineffective? sorry to say but what we see realistically is that the school intakes good students with quite an intensive workload but then it does not deliver results as compared with the rest.

作者: pccw2017    時間: 19-7-25 10:54

王家爸爸 發表於 19-7-25 08:59
兩間聖小勁既學生先入到,所以其實學校收生質素應該相當高,但係高收生質素反映唔到係 DSE 成績度,原因係 ...
係咪聖心私小入的比例高D ?
作者: hkpapa852    時間: 19-7-25 11:30

pccw2017 發表於 19-7-25 10:54
係咪聖心私小入的比例高D ?
其實有可能係兩間小學部既學生水平下跌, 影響中學部成績


聖心書院2012年校務告開始無再公佈Pre-S1成績

2011年聖心書院Pre-S1成績, 各科都比對上一年差, 亦比同年既SJC差


加上聖心係2015年高調宣佈自行位唔會只收自己友


作者: suzuki12    時間: 19-7-25 11:45

Julybabe 發表於 19-7-25 10:32
so is it fair to say the way sacred heart educate its student is ineffective? sorry to say but what ...

本帖最後由 suzuki12 於 19-7-25 11:50 編輯

本帖最後由 suzuki12 於 19-7-25 11:48 編輯

個人認為聖私 / 津小成績叻嘅家長/小朋友離心大(除個別忠心粉絲外),考頭果浸走左好多。留下直上嘅相信會係一些中上游、中游、甚至中下游(最後叩門入)嘅學生。雖然自行位已開放出去,但校方又要照顧返私/津小同學升中,唔排除會用埋自行位收自己小學囡囡;再加上地點問題也好難收到街外尖子誇區等等因素....

當然中學部有無用對方法來替親生囡囡增值來考dse也要有商榷空間


作者: Julybabe    時間: 19-7-25 12:08

suzuki12 發表於 19-7-25 11:45
本帖最後由 suzuki12 於 19-7-25 11:50 編輯

本帖最後由 suzuki12 於 19-7-25 11:48 編輯

thanks for your comments. personally I think sh has whatever it takes to maintain itself to be of top tier, it is a good school with long history and establishment, and the the way they nurture kids wont be anything worse than any other schools out there, yet the outcome of which as we are seeing is not something consistent to what is expected.. and I'm still struggling to see the real reason why....

作者: 王家爸爸    時間: 19-7-25 13:49

pccw2017 發表於 19-7-25 10:54
係咪聖心私小入的比例高D ?
應該係
作者: 王家爸爸    時間: 19-7-25 13:49

hkpapa852 發表於 19-7-25 11:30
其實有可能係兩間小學部既學生水平下跌, 影響中學部成績
講得啱,2012年校務告開始無再公佈Pre-S1成績,有啲 fishy。


作者: 王家爸爸    時間: 19-7-25 13:55

Julybabe 發表於 19-7-25 10:32
so is it fair to say the way sacred heart educate its student is ineffective? sorry to say but what ...
Because of insufficient information, it is difficult to know whether the problem is happening in primary schools or college.  However, since they have two primary schools and the chance of both schools dropping in quality simultaneity is low, it is more reasonable to assume that the root cause is the low value-adding of the college.
作者: 王家爸爸    時間: 19-7-25 13:56

suzuki12 發表於 19-7-25 11:45
本帖最後由 suzuki12 於 19-7-25 11:50 編輯

本帖最後由 suzuki12 於 19-7-25 11:48 編輯
其實資料不足下,都只能夠咁估。
作者: Julybabe    時間: 19-7-25 13:59

王家爸爸 發表於 19-7-25 13:49
講得啱,2012年校務告開始無再公佈Pre-S1成績,有啲 fishy。

what is pre s1 results pls?

作者: 王家爸爸    時間: 19-7-25 14:10

Julybabe 發表於 19-7-25 13:59
what is pre s1 results pls?
The Pre-S1 HKAT is an examination that serves two purposes.  First, it lets secondary schools know the Chinese Language, English Language and Mathematics proficiency of their S1 entrants so that the schools can plan for any supporting measures if necessary. Second, for secondary school places allocation purpose.
作者: Julybabe    時間: 19-7-25 14:21

王家爸爸 發表於 19-7-25 14:10
The Pre-S1 HKAT is an examination that serves two purposes.  First, it lets secondary schools know t ...

I see. many thanks for all of your above information. appreciated it. may I know if your sh parents pls?

作者: mcl203    時間: 19-7-25 15:13

Julybabe 發表於 19-7-25 13:59
what is pre s1 results pls?

PS1似乎唔可能完全引用於中學既DSE,始終小學係中小,中學係英中,學科亦係近乎洗底重來~~~

作者: pccw2017    時間: 19-7-25 15:30

王家爸爸 發表於 19-7-25 13:49
應該係

Thx!

作者: Julybabe    時間: 19-7-25 16:16

mcl203 發表於 19-7-25 15:13
PS1似乎唔可能完全引用於中學既DSE,始終小學係中小,中學係英中,學科亦係近乎洗底重來~~~
...

that's for sure. above thread already spelled out the purpose of the pre s1 test.. thanks your for view.

作者: pccw2017    時間: 19-7-25 17:28

mcl203 發表於 19-7-25 15:13
PS1似乎唔可能完全引用於中學既DSE,始終小學係中小,中學係英中,學科亦係近乎洗底重來~~~
...
雖然係中小但小朋友間成日用英文溝通, 唔講以為係英小
作者: annie133    時間: 19-7-25 21:58

storymum 發表於 19-7-25 10:01
好奇一問,邊d學校係band 1A 而又明確分開公佈三大、八大⋯⋯DSE 成績?

Maryknoll convent  list 得好清楚,連入大學讀咩科都有。


作者: fefemom    時間: 19-7-25 22:56

pccw2017 發表於 19-7-25 10:54
係咪聖心私小入的比例高D ?
私小對上四年每年三班畢業,大約100人,上書院有60-65人;津小每年5班,大約150-160人畢業,沒有公開升中派位。但書院保留位~108, 自行59,估津小都應該有90人上書院,所以比例相約。但今年私小四班畢業,人數應該有變,明年亦是四班,變化更甚。
作者: pccw2017    時間: 19-7-26 06:20

fefemom 發表於 19-7-25 22:56
私小對上四年每年三班畢業,大約100人,上書院有60-65人;津小每年5班,大約150-160人畢業,沒有公開升中派 ...

唔該曬,呢d資料好有用

作者: hkpapa852    時間: 19-7-26 08:21

fefemom 發表於 19-7-25 22:56
私小對上四年每年三班畢業,大約100人,上書院有60-65人;津小每年5班,大約150-160人畢業,沒有公開升中派 ...
自行59個位,有20-30個係收街外人,所以書院基本上只能保証收~140個來自小學部既學生。津小升上書院人數應在90人內。

作者: fionaytwong    時間: 19-7-26 08:53

本帖最後由 fionaytwong 於 19-7-26 08:54 編輯
hkpapa852 發表於 19-7-26 08:21
自行59個位,有20-30個係收街外人,所以書院基本上只能保証收~140個來自小學部既學生。津小升上書院人數應 ...

hkpapa852, 你咁犀利嘅,知道20-30外來生?
作者: fefemom    時間: 19-7-26 09:04

hkpapa852 發表於 19-7-26 08:21
自行59個位,有20-30個係收街外人,所以書院基本上只能保証收~140個來自小學部既學生。津小升上書院人數應 ...

我不是津小家長,只是二手消息,但18年原來派位是過90人,估最終有派到書院的叩別校,也有派他校的叩回書院,所以估計大約90人。

作者: Band5    時間: 19-7-26 09:04     標題: 回覆樓主:

我覺得聖心書院入u率低嘅一個好重要原因係因為佢用咗好多自行位收番自己學生,其他傳統中學用自行位收嘅多數係1a或1b嘅學生而聖心用咗呢啲位去收自己學校嘅band2學生,呢啲足以影響 十個percent 嘅入u率。

作者: 王家爸爸    時間: 19-7-26 09:26

Band5 發表於 19-7-26 09:04
我覺得聖心書院入u率低嘅一個好重要原因係因為佢用咗好多自行位收番自己學生,其他傳統中學用自行位收嘅多 ...
210個小學部學生,收140個,剛剛好係2/3,其實唔算多,同其他有小學部既學校差唔多。
作者: LinusYip    時間: 19-7-26 09:31

hkpapa852 發表於 19-7-25 11:30
其實有可能係兩間小學部既學生水平下跌, 影響中學部成績

本帖最後由 LinusYip 於 19-7-26 09:33 編輯

我覺得呢個係最重要因素

我有親戚讀聖私小升四年班,但有兩個好奇怪既“現象“:
1. 一年班果陣有42-3人,升四年只剩36人,冇人插班。我估部分係有能力既走左,但學校又唔俾叻既學生插入來。

2. 暑期功課多到傻,好似話剩係中文要睇20本書,指定要睇果本有200幾頁,啲字又密麻麻,我相信結果好多人會做唔到/扮做左,但平時學校又唔見鼓勵小朋友讀書,根本完全唔配合。教學方面係有問題。

結果,小學叻既只會走得越來越多:
1. 小學就插其他學校
2. 升中走

作者: 王家爸爸    時間: 19-7-26 09:53

storymum 發表於 19-7-25 10:01
好奇一問,邊d學校係band 1A 而又明確分開公佈三大、八大⋯⋯DSE 成績?
其實 B1A 學校都會公佈相當詳情既 DSE 成績。至於三大、八大,應該無,原因係最勁嗰啲可能目標唔係三大,而係牛劍、長青藤。
作者: hk1    時間: 19-7-26 09:56

王家爸爸 發表於 19-7-25 08:59
兩間聖小勁既學生先入到,所以其實學校收生質素應該相當高,但係高收生質素反映唔到係 DSE 成績度,原因係 ...

本帖最後由 hk1 於 19-7-26 09:57 編輯

我女嗰屆嘅私小, 成績最好嘅20個, 起碼有一半比其他學校搶咗, 所以唔係所有最好的學生收番曬

作者: 王家爸爸    時間: 19-7-26 10:04

hk1 發表於 19-7-26 09:56
本帖最後由 hk1 於 19-7-26 09:57 編輯

我女嗰屆嘅私小, 成績最好嘅20個, 起碼有一半比其他學校搶咗,  ...
私小啲學生勁好多,離心力都大啲,但係私小始終人數少啲,影響無咁大。但係無論如何,大抽獎唔會收到B3學生,我唔相信學校會用自行位收B3學生,所以我唔相信中學部收到既學生會太差。
作者: cafeva    時間: 19-7-26 11:01

本帖最後由 cafeva 於 19-7-26 11:01 編輯
王家爸爸 發表於 19-7-26 10:04
私小啲學生勁好多,離心力都大啲,但係私小始終人數少啲,影響無咁大。但係無論如何,大抽獎唔會收到B3學生 ...

我覺得就係因為小學已經開始谷, 潛能盡露. 好既走左. 中上的無力再突破. 所以DSE 成績不太好也不壞.

講錯請指正.

作者: Julybabe    時間: 19-7-26 11:30

pccw2017 發表於 19-7-25 17:28
雖然係中小但小朋友間成日用英文溝通, 唔講以為係英小

really? do you mean聖心私小? I was told by parents that girls speak Canto all the time in 私小……

作者: Julybabe    時間: 19-7-26 11:31

hkpapa852 發表於 19-7-25 11:30
其實有可能係兩間小學部既學生水平下跌, 影響中學部成績

what is sjc? st Joseph college?

作者: Julybabe    時間: 19-7-26 11:39

cafeva 發表於 19-7-26 11:01
我覺得就係因為小學已經開始谷, 潛能盡露. 好既走左. 中上的無力再突破. 所以DSE 成績不太好也不壞.

講錯 ...

oh so you mean kids are burnt out at early stages... how sad...

作者: Julybabe    時間: 19-7-26 11:40

hk1 發表於 19-7-26 09:56
本帖最後由 hk1 於 19-7-26 09:57 編輯

我女嗰屆嘅私小, 成績最好嘅20個, 起碼有一半比其他學校搶咗,  ...

thank you hk1.. may I know if the girls can speak fluent English in 私小?

作者: pccw2017    時間: 19-7-26 11:40

Julybabe 發表於 19-7-26 11:30
really? do you mean聖心私小? I was told by parents that girls speak Canto all the time in 私小…… ...
My friend's daughter is studying there and she said so.
作者: Julybabe    時間: 19-7-26 11:41

pccw2017 發表於 19-7-26 11:40
My friend's daughter is studying there and she said so.

sorry, what did you friend say pls?

作者: happiemm    時間: 19-7-26 11:42

LinusYip 發表於 19-7-26 09:31
本帖最後由 LinusYip 於 19-7-26 09:33 編輯

我覺得呢個係最重要因素

應該唔係唔收插班生,我個女試過插小四,上午考完,下午就話收,不過最後我地都無去讀。

作者: subb    時間: 19-7-26 11:46

我知的讀津小, 分數考得好的一班,. 多數唔選聖心 !
作者: LinusYip    時間: 19-7-26 11:47

happiemm 發表於 19-7-26 11:42
應該唔係唔收插班生,我個女試過插小四,上午考完,下午就話收,不過最後我地都無去讀。
...

咁可能報插班既人太少,結果收到又肯讀既人都唔夠走既人多

作者: 王家爸爸    時間: 19-7-26 11:54

cafeva 發表於 19-7-26 11:01
我覺得就係因為小學已經開始谷, 潛能盡露. 好既走左. 中上的無力再突破. 所以DSE 成績不太好也不壞.

講錯 ...
呢個有可能,所以我一直都唔贊成谷學生,應該令學生深入認識,甚至分析所學內容。基礎打好,先可能走得遠。
作者: 王家爸爸    時間: 19-7-26 12:03

subb 發表於 19-7-26 11:46
我知的讀津小, 分數考得好的一班,. 多數唔選聖心 !
聖心津小都係?
作者: Julybabe    時間: 19-7-26 12:05

王家爸爸 發表於 19-7-26 11:54
呢個有可能,所以我一直都唔贊成谷學生,應該令學生深入認識,甚至分析所學內容。基礎打好,先可能走得遠。 ...

that is so true

作者: 王家爸爸    時間: 19-7-26 12:07

LinusYip 發表於 19-7-26 09:31
本帖最後由 LinusYip 於 19-7-26 09:33 編輯

我覺得呢個係最重要因素
其實插班聖心私小係雞肋,區內更好既學校太多,所以唔係學校唔收插班,而係區內比較少人想去插佢哋班。


作者: Julybabe    時間: 19-7-26 12:10

王家爸爸 發表於 19-7-26 11:54
呢個有可能,所以我一直都唔贊成谷學生,應該令學生深入認識,甚至分析所學內容。基礎打好,先可能走得遠。 ...

but reality is.. a school.. with boot camp style.. yet results are not comparable to those less intensive ones... then what's the point of pushing the kids to dead ends everyday... I really dont see the point......

作者: Julybabe    時間: 19-7-26 12:12

王家爸爸 發表於 19-7-26 12:07
其實插班聖心私小係雞肋,區內更好既學校太多,所以唔係學校唔收插班,而係區內比較少人想去插佢哋班。

...

what is 雞肋?and I thought it's not easy to insert to other school like ssg? pls name a few schools which are better than sh within the same zone.. thanks

作者: 王家爸爸    時間: 19-7-26 12:16

Julybabe 發表於 19-7-26 12:10
but reality is.. a school.. with boot camp style.. yet results are not comparable to those less int ...
I can only say that the school suitable for some children, especially those who need harsh discipline to make them stay focus in their study, but it may not adequate for a child who is self-motivated and self-discipline.
作者: subb    時間: 19-7-26 12:16

王家爸爸 發表於 19-7-26 12:03
聖心津小都係?
係..

作者: 王家爸爸    時間: 19-7-26 12:23

Julybabe 發表於 19-7-26 12:12
what is 雞肋?and I thought it's not easy to insert to other school like ssg? pls name a few school ...
The school has a unique advantage for some children, but maybe too harsh for others.  If you had a daughter who wants to go to a better school, which school would pop-up in your mind first? It would be SSGPS, right?  Probably, SCPS come second. Moreover, there are also many good primary girl schools in Wanchai.

作者: 王家爸爸    時間: 19-7-26 12:24

subb 發表於 19-7-26 12:16
係..
咁就仲大件事
作者: Julybabe    時間: 19-7-26 12:24

王家爸爸 發表於 19-7-26 12:23
The school has a unique advantage for some children, but maybe too harsh for others.  If you had a d ...

本帖最後由 Julybabe 於 19-7-26 12:28 編輯

to me sh ssg are just the same thing .. same thing as in local schools in which all girls sitting there listening to instruction in an Chinese based medium.. the perfect way in formulating "education" in an authentic local way...

作者: pccw2017    時間: 19-7-26 12:48

Julybabe 發表於 19-7-26 11:41
sorry, what did you friend say pls?
The girls like to communicate in English at school.  
作者: Julybabe    時間: 19-7-26 12:49

pccw2017 發表於 19-7-26 12:48
The girls like to communicate in English at school.

I see.. perfect

作者: CPSKWW    時間: 19-7-26 13:07

pccw2017 發表於 19-7-26 12:48
The girls like to communicate in English at school.

Yes my girl uses English to communicate with her friends.

作者: CPSKWW    時間: 19-7-26 13:22

LinusYip 發表於 19-7-26 09:31
本帖最後由 LinusYip 於 19-7-26 09:33 編輯

我覺得呢個係最重要因素

1. 以我所知的事實包括:有移民走、有轉讀international schools、有成績追唔上(emoji)讀較輕鬆學校。

2. 學校鼓勵閲讀,但都要視乎囡囡們有冇興趣閲讀。如果有興趣睇書,暑假嘅booklist其實可以好快睇完。一本200幾頁嘅書其實對有興趣閲讀嘅人根本不是問題。至於暑假功課,可能我小朋友早幾屆吧,我一直覺得適量,我囡好快做完。

3. 升書院方面,當然top students 會去更top的中學,但亦有好多成績好的學生一直以升上書院為目標。但亦有因為學校地點、擔心跟唔上課程、覺得學校管得太嚴種種因素而選擇離開。

以上純分享,不喜勿插



作者: subb    時間: 19-7-26 13:31

王家爸爸 發表於 19-7-26 12:24
咁就仲大件事
港島區好多優質女校... !

學校開始唔講級名次, 只講班名次
到呈2先破例講一次, 唔知是好是壞

作者: Julybabe    時間: 19-7-26 13:42

CPSKWW 發表於 19-7-26 13:07
Yes my girl uses English to communicate with her friends.

which school pls? thanks

作者: CPSKWW    時間: 19-7-26 13:43

Julybabe 發表於 19-7-26 13:42
which school pls? thanks

聖心私小

作者: fefemom    時間: 19-7-26 13:43

subb 發表於 19-7-26 13:31
港島區好多優質女校... !

學校開始唔講級名次, 只講班名次

津小?
私小呈分試有講級、班、呈分名次

作者: Julybabe    時間: 19-7-26 13:43

CPSKWW 發表於 19-7-26 13:43
聖心私小

I see thank you :)

作者: subb    時間: 19-7-26 14:12

fefemom 發表於 19-7-26 13:43
津小?  
私小呈分試有講級、班、呈分名次
是, 津小今年開始 ! 

作者: Julybabe    時間: 19-7-26 15:06

subb 發表於 19-7-26 14:12
是, 津小今年開始 ! 

does 私小have TSA and 呈分試these kinda things pls? thx

作者: fefemom    時間: 19-7-26 15:32

Julybabe 發表於 19-7-26 15:06
does 私小have TSA and 呈分試these kinda things pls? thx

私小有TSA,要呈分試成績派位,聖心書院是津校,當然要参加。

作者: LingChiBaBa    時間: 19-7-26 18:19

趁熱鬧,食花生先。
作者: Julybabe    時間: 19-7-26 18:49

LingChiBaBa 發表於 19-7-26 18:19
趁熱鬧,食花生先。

hello and welcome to this thread. are you an existing parent of SH pls? :)

作者: LingChiBaBa    時間: 19-7-26 18:50

Julybabe 發表於 19-7-26 18:49
hello and welcome to this thread. are you an existing parent of SH pls? :)

本帖最後由 LingChiBaBa 於 19-7-26 18:52 編輯

我是前SHCC家長。

亞女啱啱畢業。

作者: cafeva    時間: 19-7-26 22:40

LingChiBaBa 發表於 19-7-26 18:50
本帖最後由 LingChiBaBa 於 19-7-26 18:52 編輯

我是前SHCC家長。  

恭喜哂。
方便講下今年SHCC DSE成績點嗎?

作者: LingChiBaBa    時間: 19-7-26 23:13

cafeva 發表於 19-7-26 22:40
恭喜哂。
方便講下今年SHCC DSE成績點嗎?

Hkpapa話齋,SHCC家長唔會係EK爆料架。

作者: cafeva    時間: 19-7-27 09:02

LingChiBaBa 發表於 19-7-26 23:13
Hkpapa話齋,SHCC家長唔會係EK爆料架。
咁你上ek為咩?
作者: LingChiBaBa    時間: 19-7-27 09:05

cafeva 發表於 19-7-27 09:02
咁你上ek為咩?
咪喺#86樓講咗
作者: Awyleung    時間: 19-7-27 10:20

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For MSS , St. Paul convent there are high percentage of students choosing overseas pathways, when you compared s1 intake and s6 DSE attendants you will find like only 50% will stay and how many of them are from their primary system, I heard even less, not to mention students that shift to GCSE (SPCS)So whether or not less pushy school will achieve better in hKDSE is still a doubt

However I am not a fan of local education system , I personally prefer IB for my children but many iB full scorers are from local primary school and shift midway say S3-4! so pushy style are still effective to build good learning habits .

作者: 王家爸爸    時間: 19-7-27 10:39

Awyleung 發表於 19-7-27 10:20
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For MSS , St. Paul convent there are high percentage of students choosing over ...
Apparently, MSS and SPCS attracted more middle-class and upper-class families. Because of the family resource and support, those students are having better academic performance. In recent year, the political unrest in Hong Kong scared off certain percentages of them. Therefore, I can't reject your argument that those earlier leavers might affect the DSE results of MSS and SPCS and it is possible (and probably likely) that without the leaving of those students, the DSE results of MSS and SPCS might be much better.  But, same as all social science propositions, you can't test them using methods commonly used by natural science.


作者: Awyleung    時間: 19-7-27 10:55

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Those early leavers might improve their hkdse results but most cases are those students that are not confident in taking HKDSE.
MPS is under central allocation system so they will not pick those who are well off or so, renting an apartment in wanchai is far affordable  than buying an apartment in Yuen long nowadays

For upper middle class I don’t think they will prefer local school especially recent decade.
Most of them will take international school pathway in the early stage and they could access both non jupas or exercise their options to top uni in UK or USA

SPCS may still have a bunch of middle class but most of the families are not particularly well off say normal working class or professionals


作者: hohol    時間: 19-7-27 15:11

本帖最後由 hohol 於 19-7-27 15:13 編輯

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作者: Julybabe    時間: 19-7-27 16:10

Awyleung 發表於 19-7-27 10:20
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For MSS , St. Paul convent there are high percentage of students choosing over ...

wont be 50% going overseas for mss.. anyways I think it's too early to tell the impact/ aftermath of recent social instability against dse....

作者: Awyleung    時間: 19-7-27 17:01

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According to their website , only 88 students took hkdse this year which may be around 50% of s1 entrants http://www.mss.edu.hk/Achievement/hkdse/HKDSE2018.pdf

But honestly similar figures for many schools

作者: SingMom    時間: 19-7-27 17:20

本帖最後由 SingMom 於 19-7-27 17:26 編輯
Julybabe 發表於 19-7-27 16:10
wont be 50% going overseas for mss.. anyways I think it's too early to tell the impact/ aftermath o ...

As a MSS parent, I can tell you that it is true - more than 50% going overseas study in MSS. And Rome wasn't built in a day. It is like a tradition for MSS ever since HKDSE started. Most of the students, who were from MPS, find it very difficult to handle the Chinese subjects in DSE. And this is one of the major reasons why they left, nothing to do with the recent social unrest.

作者: Julybabe    時間: 19-7-27 17:33

SingMom 發表於 19-7-27 17:20
As a MSS parent, I can tell you that it is true - more than 50% going overseas study in MSS. And Ro ...

then it has changed since the old days in A level time.. anyways agree the % has nothing to do with what's happening in hk...

appreciate all of your views on mss/ spc but hope I can gain more feedback on sacred heart as my original post intends.. thank you.





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