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作者: yzxz 時間: 12-12-4 18:11 標題: rightmind or victoria?

any comments?
i know how victoria works but is rightmind a good school?
please let me know. appreciate for the comments!

作者: Jane1983 時間: 12-12-4 18:41

我鄰居個小朋友讀，她說會教弟子規，用閃卡等比較特別的教學方法，不過吳知有無效wor

作者: yzxz 時間: 12-12-4 18:44

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第一,唔知有沒有效
第二,學校沒有室外環境,又不知會否有訓練大小肌肉的活動
這2個原因都令我十分hesitate :/ 不知如何選擇
請問你朋友的小朋友讀得如何?

作者: Jane1983 時間: 12-12-4 18:46

她是鄰居，見到先講兩句，她說ok，但就無話大贊

作者: puibb 時間: 12-12-4 18:48 標題: 引用：any+comments?i+know+how+victoria+works+b

原帖由 yzxz 於 12-12-04 發表
any comments?
i know how victoria works but is rightmind a good school?
please let me know. appreci ...

我去過rightmind 教育集團既講座,我覺得佢係想sale 間學校，sale 自己產品多過用心教好小朋友；老闆係business man ,反而Victoria由上一代起一直都係辦學的,有經驗,同好栽培d 老師,比我知係重小朋友身心發展多d.

作者: yzxz 時間: 12-12-4 18:50

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她是返K還是PN?你有否覺得她有進步?讀得開心嗎?不好意思,很多問題,但我真的很想知道,很小人談論這間學校,都不知這間學校究竟是否suitable for my kid

作者: yzxz 時間: 12-12-4 18:52

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我都十分認同victoria是十分關注孩童的成長過程,老師有愛心又有經驗,但我認為課程太淺.我也曾聽過rightmind的talk,不過不知道如果把小朋友交到他們手上,成效如何

作者: Jane1983 時間: 12-12-4 18:54

她是讀K1, 由另一間幼兒園轉過去，見小朋友都幾開心，詳情真系吳知

作者: mafoonfoonyan 時間: 12-12-4 22:15

Rightmind kids have very strong english and mandarin. They also love going to class. School admits that they don't have enough exercise and asks that parents to take them to parks more often

作者: mafoonfoonyan 時間: 12-12-4 22:15

Also gives you both local school and international school option

作者: yzxz 時間: 12-12-4 22:22

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無論如何謝謝你的答覆

作者: yzxz 時間: 12-12-4 22:22

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may I know how do you know these? Do you have kids attending their classes?

作者: mafoonfoonyan 時間: 12-12-4 22:47

yes, kid in AM class

作者: yzxz 時間: 12-12-4 22:54

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I see. is your kid in pn class or k? how's the school? is your kid happy at the school? are kids there able to speak cantonese? how're their self-caring ability? i mean can they take good care of themselves or do they still need help in sth like dress-up, eating, toilet, etc? do you think the flash card method work? can you please let me know more coz i'm really hesitating on choosing the suitable one for my kid. appreciate for answering all my questions. thanks!!!

作者: wankapo 時間: 12-12-4 22:54 標題: 回覆：rightmind or victoria

of coz victoria

作者: yzxz 時間: 12-12-4 22:56

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any reasons?

作者: Isaacmommy 時間: 12-12-4 23:16

Would choose Victoria. Not a lot of traditional primary schools buy the idea of flash cards.

作者: picture 時間: 12-12-4 23:27 標題: 回覆：rightmind or victoria

if I have the budget I would go rightmind

作者: mafoonfoonyan 時間: 12-12-5 07:39

flash cards is only 5mins a day. If you speak cantonese at home it can't be an issue. Typical self caring ability. Expensive school

作者: yzxz 時間: 12-12-5 11:16

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any reasons of choosing rightmind?

作者: yzxz 時間: 12-12-5 11:17

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only 5 mins a day? i didn't know that. each the pth/eng lesson lasts for 30mins, so what else do they do in the else of 25mins?

作者: picture 時間: 12-12-5 17:13

yzxz 發表於 12-12-5 11:16
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any reasons of choosing rightmind?

IF I WANT TO PLACE MY KID IN INTERNATIONAL SCHOOLS.....

I would go for Rightmind because they teach chinese and English words at a very early age!  and Chinese is taught in PTH.

if you want fun and activities, you can always bring your kids to the park and playgrounds.  I don't like the idea of paying a school high tuition for playground equipment facilities. I suppose people who pick Rightmind want they kids to LEARN something from the school in addition to self-reliance, proper manners and have fun with kids.

you can train self-reliance at home and proper manners at home and social skills can be acquired by arranging playdates.

In the end I didn't go for this school as I want local stream for my kid.  Also the school tuitions and other fees are beyond what I can afford.

作者: picture 時間: 12-12-5 17:18

Isaacmommy 發表於 12-12-4 23:16
Would choose Victoria. Not a lot of traditional primary schools buy the idea of flash cards.

I am not trying to argue with you but my humble opinion is.... nowadays, private primary schools all like to admit geniuses and whether or not they learn their stuff from flash cards or ipad or internet or incessant extra classes outside of school is not the private school's concern AS LONG AS you are well trained.

作者: Jane1983 時間: 12-12-5 17:52

Train吳train到genius出來？這是個問題。吳系話吳信Rightmind果套野，甘貴甘遠都有人去，但有疑問。

作者: mafoonfoonyan 時間: 12-12-6 08:45

May not be for every kid, as the curriculum is relatively advanced but it seems like it works

作者: puibb 時間: 12-12-6 23:23 標題: 引用：Train吳train到genius出來？這是個問題。吳

原帖由 Jane1983 於 12-12-05 發表
Train吳train到genius出來？這是個問題。吳系話吳信Rightmind果套野，甘貴甘遠都有人去，但有疑問。 ...

Agree! 我係讀教育出身,我都吾buy 呢套flash cards 教學！好多researches 對用flash cards 教學得出既結論都係negative 既,當然有所謂成功既case,但真正既教育係重身、心、靈發展而吾係強調'傑出'教育既！

作者: puibb 時間: 12-12-6 23:25 標題: 回覆：puibb 的帖子

Oh , 不過香港人buy, 有market ,自然有fans ...

作者: picture 時間: 12-12-7 09:33 標題: 回覆：rightmind or victoria

hi all..........

agree geniuses cant be produced by training but fact of life is private primary schools admit students .by examnation and/or interviews and to win this battle one needs to be well prepared to at least be smart and bright if not a genius.................

as for flash cards it works on some kids but not all..........the benefits of flashcards may not outweigh the drawbacks and it is really personal whether or not you want your kid taught words this way........

I accept this completely so I have no issues......but thread owner should seriously consider this when making a decision..........

作者: LSFAN 時間: 12-12-7 10:13 標題: 回覆：rightmind or victoria?

Anyone has already got the offer of rightmind?

作者: yzxz 時間: 12-12-7 11:20

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For us, the whole purpose of entering pn class is not only to learn "something" but also to grow in an environment without parents. we want our kid to learn not ONLY WORDS but more like the social skills, learn to obey basic rules, the discipline, learn to be a caring person and so. i think an all-rounded education is also important. except for learning ONLY WORDS, both the gross/fine motor training is needed. I'm not saying paying the high sch fees for gorgeous facilities (which the sch require us to pay for the capital contribution fund which is used to maintain and improve the facilities) but if they can provide what we expect, I'm willing to pay even more. as I mentioned we want him to learn all these so as to grow in an environment without parents, it seems a little bit unnecessary to arrange play dates.

作者: yzxz 時間: 12-12-7 11:23

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I'm wondering if it's because they do well in marketing?

作者: yzxz 時間: 12-12-7 11:30

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i totally accept the idea of flashcards but I have a doubt if it's suitable for my kid. I mean I don't know if my kid is able to learn "something" by this method.

作者: yzxz 時間: 12-12-7 11:31

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My few friends' kids and my kid have got

作者: sonicgina 時間: 12-12-7 13:59

我覺得如果Victoria收，讀佢好啲。 Victoria重英普而且課程同教法都ok，雖然唔包上其英小，但出路唔錯又教法適合個性活潑的孩子。
第二的話，我會選Rightmind，同樣重英普而且課程同教法都ok，雖冇直屬小學，但出路唔錯，大部分畢業生都入到好的英小，教法適合個性活潑的孩子。

作者: sonicgina 時間: 12-12-7 14:08

Rightmind每星期有二日會讓學生到室內遊樂場玩，因為他們應為這有助孩子手腳協調及有助整體感覺統合，所以不用擔心沒有大肌肉的運動，而且學校鼓勵家長假日或平日可帶小朋友到公園及郊外走走玩玩。
他們大部分畢業生可以考到Band 1英小，我覺得與學校教弟子規有些關係。他們面試表現大體，不會太怕羞或太冇禮貌，以及那些學校都知道這裡的學生英普都OK，對小學課程應該冇問題。

作者: yokochacco 時間: 12-12-8 01:06

我仔仔讀緊right mind pn，佢好鐘意返學，放學都要攬完老師先走.
其實學費好似偏貴，但到而家都冇其他雜費，只係上.下學期一次書薄勞作費同夏.冬季校服要買，我覺得合理，比有啲學校學費平但每樣另計錢嚟得有預算(個人睇法)

作者: yzxz 時間: 12-12-8 02:18

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多謝哂你的分享,讓我了解更多.但請問你知否他們的flash card教學法是否suitable for every kids?

作者: yzxz 時間: 12-12-8 02:27

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請問你仔仔是讀全日班還是半日班?他在pn class學到字嗎?平常他說廣東話可以嗎? 不好意思很多問題但真的很想知!

作者: amberpan7 時間: 12-12-8 04:54 標題: 回覆：rightmind or victoria

兩間都是牟利機構，一間牟得來以關心小朋友各方面平衡發展為宗旨，一間牟來係標榜為小朋友洗腦而肯定其教育方針在市場上係獨特及正確的。你自己量下。

作者: Jane1983 時間: 12-12-8 10:30

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Marketing 是好的，記得有些名人都系送小朋友去 Rightmind讀，不過甘都吳等於一定合你需要。

其實兩間學校都吳會差（我系維記家長），語境都應該好，但Rightmind就貴d，但貴左有無好d就好難講。

作者: LSFAN 時間: 12-12-8 10:43 標題: 回覆：rightmind or victoria?

The annual school fee of Victoria Kindergarten (South Horizon) is a little bit higher than that of Rightmind (around 58000 vs 57000) for K1.

作者: LSFAN 時間: 12-12-8 10:48 標題: 回覆：rightmind or victoria?

I want to know whether the kids from both the Victoria and Rightmind can adapt to the environment of the international school when they promote to the primary school?

作者: Jane1983 時間: 12-12-8 10:57

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其實找學校，最難系考入，入到就多數讀得上

作者: OJL 時間: 12-12-8 14:55 標題: 回覆：rightmind or victoria

以我所知rightmind有好多畢業生入ISF,如果國際學校不是你杯茶，就唔駛考慮(個人意見)

作者: yzxz 時間: 12-12-8 15:23

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what does you base on to make these comments? do you have kids or friends' kids attending both their school? thanks

作者: yokochacco 時間: 12-12-8 18:43

我仔仔讀半日班，pn冇咁快要寫字，但學校有照教，同校長傾過，認為小朋友像海綿，學校會照教字，但唔會咁細就測試佢地識幾多，等佢地自然吸收幾多就幾多，(我個人好贊同).我喺屋企同仔仔講英文同廣東話，返學後講話叻咗好多，亦聽明白多咗.
而我識學校其他家長，有個女女升上本地頗有名嘅傳統小學，以我所知，學校老師會有建議小朋友適合讀本地學校或者is，等家長可以自己參考.暫時覺得最唔好係學校太遠！

作者: amberpan7 時間: 12-12-8 22:48 標題: 回覆：yzxz 的帖子

Yes. Exactly. Friend of mine has two daughters. One was in K2 Victoria CWB. One was in K1 Rightmind. The smaller one attented Rightmind because it was close to where they lived. The little one studied for one year then switched to Canadian Intl KG. My friend was not happy with Rightmind, especially when she found her elder one has developed a very gd language foundation after spending two years in Victoria, whereas the smaller one hated the flash cards and threw them in the bin whenever my friend tried to play the cards with her. My friend had a chat with the class teacher at Rightmind, but the teacher just kept telling how her daughter loved the school and the cards so much that there's no way her little one would behave like that at home, bla bla bla and told my friend to try harder at home because their cirriculum was proved to be successful, bla bla bla. My friend found the school was not helping her child at all. I felt so sorry for her and her little daughter.

作者: sonicgina 時間: 12-12-10 16:04

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呢點我都認同

作者: sonicgina 時間: 12-12-10 16:11

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學校是主張提供學習文字的機會給幼兒，flash card是他們用的方法，我本人對此沒有太大期望或抗拒。小孩子學習成效，我覺得真的是建基於愉快同感興趣，大部分幼稚園都標榜愉快學習，只要孩子覺得有趣又愉快的事，他們都會學得很快。

作者: sonicgina 時間: 12-12-10 16:19

為應付小一面試，各家長四出為子女報讀兩文、樂器、畫班、泳班、朗誦比賽等活動，這些多是牟利機構，想問為何還要報呢？

作者: Jane1983 時間: 12-12-10 16:20

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你是否做得到一樣野都吾報？

作者: sonicgina 時間: 12-12-10 16:29

amberpan7 發表於 12-12-8 04:54
兩間都是牟利機構，一間牟得來以關心小朋友各方面平衡發展為宗旨，一間牟來係標榜為小朋友洗腦而肯定其教育 ...

我是回應以上的對話

作者: sonicgina 時間: 12-12-10 16:31

我認同在香港讀書，要用marketing那套。在自己的target group內找自己想要的。

作者: sonicgina 時間: 12-12-10 16:40

係香港大多數教育中心都是牟得來以關心小朋友各方面平衡發展為宗旨，至於那些是家長buy的就是家長自己選擇。幫孩子洗腦的，其實是自己家長及官津學校居多。「一間牟來係標榜為小朋友洗腦而肯定其教育」這句是想表達什麼？Rightmind 用 flash cards洗小朋友腦嚴重啲定係成日睇小朋友睇電視、食垃圾食物嚴重啲？Rightmind 用《弟子規》洗小朋友腦？家長不是希望教導子女禮貌、孝順、尊重長輩、愛護身邊人？

作者: yzxz 時間: 12-12-10 17:11

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我不認同係香港大多數教育中心都是牟得來以關心小朋友各方面平衡發展為宗旨.很多所謂的"教育中心"其實根本不懂如何培育小孩,更不會兼顧小朋友各方面平衡發展.如果Rightmind真能達到洗腦效果,又無妨入去一讀.最怕送了小孩入學,不但學不到知識,還學不到應有的規矩,不懂待人接物,不懂關愛別人.學校的理念很重要,但要師資配合才能達至效果吧.這點我也擔心rightmind沒有良好的師資,因為我在kinderu上課時那老師根本不懂如何handle the whole class.而那個class只得4個小朋友,再加上4個監護人及一名老師,但老師都不能handle個class.不但如此,講法文故事(播故事聲帶)時更錯哂,根本都不是講緊那一頁,老師卻指著那一頁示意故事聲帶正描述那一頁(本人懂法語)..真的令人很擔心,不知rightmind那邊的老師是否一樣

作者: yzxz 時間: 12-12-10 17:32

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ahh..that's exactly what am I worry about! I'm afraid the teachers' quality won't be good. good quality as in knowledge and morality (like if they're caring or if they know which is the suitable way to deal with different kids)

作者: sonicgina 時間: 12-12-10 17:37

我所見的又不是如你所言kinderu咁差。我兒是K1才轉到rightmind讀，他由開學至今都很喜歡上學，他還會用普通話告訴我他最喜歡教普通話的老師(我們家只說英文及廣東話)，而且常提著老師說是這樣才對、老師說是那樣才是好寶寶，所以我也很高興他能開心上學而且學到語文及禮貌。

作者: yokochacco 時間: 12-12-10 21:07

其實我之前都有幫仔仔考V校n，而且收咗，但我考完見埋啲老師，我放棄咗，我睇唔到該校老師好有熱誠或愛心(個人感覺或遇到了唔夠好的老師)，而且有好多朋友的仔女讀該校，品行也不一定好，加上我接放學時見到好幾次V校小學同中學嘅學生大庭廣眾下大聲講粗囗，對呢間學校頗反感！
(當然只係我遇到的經歷感覺，冇針對的，我亦冇收好處偏幫)
而我亦幫我仔報埋rm嘅k1，我仔返得開心，老師亦不時分析我仔有咩留意或改善，兼我鍾意到時小學可揀本地或is，我覺得呢啲係我揀rm嘅原因

作者: LSFAN 時間: 12-12-11 09:20 標題: 回覆：rightmind or victoria?

我都未確定到個囡適合讀IS 定 LS~ 所以希望揾間中英都兼顧到既學校~等佢遲d IS同 LS都有機會入~~ 想問返rightmind提唔提供到好既語言環境？特別係英語

作者: sonicgina 時間: 12-12-11 11:36

LSFAN 發表於 12-12-11 09:20
我都未確定到個囡適合讀IS 定 LS~ 所以希望揾間中英都兼顧到既學校~等佢遲d IS同 LS都有機會入~~ 想問返rig ...

我認為堅持在校內只用英普這雙語環境是rightmind其中一個值得考慮的原因，因為一般本地幼稚園每間都會提供英文及普通話課，但只是上該課堂時才是(約30分鐘)，其他時間老師與校內的員工都是用廣東話的。如果學校有純英普雙語環境想給孩子，家長可在K1至K2時再觀察孩子，了解他們適合讀IS還是LS，到時有助家長選校有較大彈性，因為現在私小及直小的小朋友都同樣要一定程度的英普能力。

作者: mafoonfoonyan 時間: 12-12-11 20:19

Much stronger english and mandarin as this is the official language vs. just a few hours of english/mandarin in other kindergartens. Cantonese the kids can learn at home

作者: yzxz 時間: 12-12-11 22:41

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umm.. I agree with you that not all students attending V would be able to develop righteous behavior, but as what my kid and I have been experiencing in its pg, all of the teachers and staff (incl the one who does cooking and cleaning) are very caring, experienced and being nice, they know kids very well. they'd try their very best to make sure kids are having the appropriate behavior. for example when it's the tea time section, the staff would ask kids to take their food from the food corner to their seats by themselves, also would let kids to pull their chairs so that they are sitting on the chair on their own. if there's kid refused to, the staff would encourage parents not to help them and to encourage the kid to do those on their own. whereas, if there is, the non-experience staff/teacher would prolly just get the food for the kid so as to stop the kid from crying. there're too many examples we've experienced at the school which makes me feel that it's a school which take good care of kids' all-rounded development, except for the aspect in academic. so far i don't see they have a lot of input in academic maybe kids are too young to. I'm not sure if it'd be the same in K class.

作者: yzxz 時間: 12-12-11 22:45

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anyway today I've called and asked the staff there. the admin told me teachers in campus are qualified teachers whereas those in kinder u are not. that makes me feel much better. but i really have to say the teacher in kinder u is really a shame. she doesn't prepare well her teaching materials, nor the flash card playing method, neither the french story. hopefully teachers in rightmind won't be the same or i'd feel like i've been cheated

作者: sonicgina 時間: 12-12-12 14:09

yzxz 發表於 12-12-11 22:45
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anyway today I've called and asked the staff there. the admin told me teache ...

其實每個階段的教法都是按孩子需要而有所不同，就像家長照顧一個讀幼稚園的孩子與讀小學的是不同，到中學、大學更要轉變對他們的態度。所以在家長選擇幼稚園、小學、中學、大學時，雖然香港有學校是提供一條龍、直屬或聯繫，但我見幼稚園教的好的，不一定小學都教得好，即使幼稚園與小學都不錯，但到中學變得龍蛇混雜都也有。如果可以一條龍上當然最好，家長及孩子壓力都少些。然而，若家長本身已有一種教學理念的話，為免日後家長與學校的教學理念有別，令小朋友產生困惑或矛盾就不好了。建議家長們先搞清楚自己想日後孩子怎樣，還是依孩子性格興趣給他們發掘其優點及所長。這都與選學校類別有關(尤其是小學及中學)。

作者: sonicgina 時間: 12-12-19 19:25

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The Independent Schools Foundation Academy (“The ISF Academy”) is a private independent International Baccalaureate (IB) World School in Hong Kong with a sophisticated K-12 Putonghua and English bilingual immersion program (authorised for Middle Years Programme and Diploma Programme).

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