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作者: Moonlight819 時間: 17-2-14 18:06 標題: ESF foundation schools
本帖最後由 Moonlight819 於 17-2-15 18:29 編輯
It seems that many ESF kindergarten students have only waiting and even rejected cases. Why do ESF primary schools intake quite many outsiders rather than its ESF kindy this year? Does it mean that they don't trust their own kindergarten education?

作者: babyonboard 時間: 17-2-14 18:15
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係喎~我聽到都好驚,諗住讀佢地kindy有priority,其實個priorty係咪影響好少?依家仲讀唔讀好reject左出年再報會唔會blacklist? 
作者: 貝珠 時間: 17-2-14 18:24
Can u quote some examples ?
In summary , I only heard that QBS accepted some non esf kinder students without any priority but somehow didn't heard any esf kinder students are on waitlist inQBS
For SJS, kjs, BH , I have not heard of any students with no priority can get 1st run offer
For RC, yes, a lot of non esf got offer , while esf students got waiting.
And how about u moonlight ?

作者: little-pig-pig 時間: 17-2-14 18:24
Moonlight819 發表於 17-2-14 18:06 
It seems that many ESF kindergarten students have only waiting and even rejected cases. Why do ESF p ...
本帖最後由 little-pig-pig 於 17-2-14 18:30 編輯
Not really, WKS kindy's kids with guaranteed places have high passing rate to SJS

作者: ChocoMilk33 時間: 17-2-14 18:28
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For those non ESF kinder kids got offer from RC, would they have bought the Nomination Rights? Or they simply have no priority whatsoever?
作者: 貝珠 時間: 17-2-14 18:35
ChocoMilk33 發表於 17-2-14 18:28 
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For those non ESF kinder kids got offer from RC, would they have bought the Nomina ...
Some of them have no NR, no other priority

作者: ChocoMilk33 時間: 17-2-14 18:44
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Thanks for the info!
Do you know which kinder they are from?
作者: 貝珠 時間: 17-2-14 18:49
ChocoMilk33 發表於 17-2-14 18:44 
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Thanks for the info!
1 from 學券,I know her from whatsapp group

作者: Moonlight819 時間: 17-2-14 18:58
貝珠 發表於 17-2-14 18:24 
Can u quote some examples ?
In summary , I only heard that QBS accepted some non esf kinder studen ...
My child get waiting also. I know some children get even rejected because they cannot meet the English requirement and I think ESF kindy has the responsibility also.

作者: 貝珠 時間: 17-2-14 19:00
Moonlight819 發表於 17-2-14 18:58 
My child get waiting also. I know some children get even rejected because they cannot meet the Engl ...
只怪我地不是港島人。

作者: 964000 時間: 17-2-14 19:01
Moonlight819 發表於 17-2-14 18:58 
My child get waiting also. I know some children get even rejected because they cannot meet the Engl ...
Many people said ESF is non selective, on the other hand I think they are screening language and social abilities

作者: babyonboard 時間: 17-2-14 19:03
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I don't understand their practice. If their students need to go for interview for their own primary school, the teachers should help to prepare for it. But instead they just let the kids play around and have happy school, then accept others who is well trained by other schools?
作者: Radiomama 時間: 17-2-14 19:03
Moonlight819 發表於 17-2-14 18:58 
My child get waiting also. I know some children get even rejected because they cannot meet the Engl ...
Meeting English requirement is the minimum.
For non ESF kids, they don't even have the chance/luck to interview.

作者: 964000 時間: 17-2-14 19:06
I wonder how's the placement of ESF Ting Chung ?

作者: Moonlight819 時間: 17-2-14 19:07
babyonboard 發表於 17-2-14 19:03 
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I don't understand their practice. If their students need to go for interv ...
Well said and that's why I said they have much responsibility on this!

作者: ChocoMilk33 時間: 17-2-14 19:07
本帖最後由 ChocoMilk33 於 17-2-14 19:08 編輯
Moonlight819 發表於 17-2-14 18:58 
My child get waiting also. I know some children get even rejected because they cannot meet the Engl ...
Oh, bad luck. But still not too bad to be on waitlist as there may still be a chance as many parents in EK advised.
For those kids who were rejected for inadequate english, do you think they really speak poorly?
作者: 964000 時間: 17-2-14 19:07
貝珠 發表於 17-2-14 19:00 
只怪我地不是港島人。
On the other hand , ESF hillside on HK side is very competitive.

作者: 964000 時間: 17-2-14 19:09
Moonlight819 發表於 17-2-14 18:06 
It seems that many ESF kindergarten students have only waiting and even rejected cases. Why do ESF p ...
Don't panic! For those on waiting , they will likely still get offer at the end before term starts!

作者: babyonboard 時間: 17-2-14 19:12
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What they are doing now is actually contadicting to their vision to provide a non pushy early education they are punishing those parents and kids who actually adopted this practice? So at the end of the day, we should still pick those pushy famous school? I m confused. Anyone?
作者: ChocoMilk33 時間: 17-2-14 19:16
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babyonboard 發表於 17-2-14 19:12 
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What they are doing now is actually contadicting to their vision to provid ...
The interview process is said to be play-based. They observe child on their language ability and social interactive skills. These skills/ability are not necessarily acquired through "pushy" way of education. And It does not mean that kids from famous kinder are definitely picked. As 貝珠 and some other parents revealed, kids from "coupon" kinder stand a chance,
作者: babyonboard 時間: 17-2-14 19:29
Language ability and social interactive skills can be trained. How much the ESF kindergarten works on that? Or they just rely on their natural talent? While other students from other schools has lots of practices with all sorts of interview skills. So parents should train their kids at home instead of relying on ESF teachers? Kids go to school really just for fun?
作者: Saboc 時間: 17-2-14 19:32
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This year... they are ...
作者: Saboc 時間: 17-2-14 19:40
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Most esf kinders speak fluent English.
But I agree esf has quietly changed its previous non selective policy this year. The schools also consider factors other than Eng proficiency. If Eng is the only factor, guess all esf kinders must have offer.
But now, seems esf becomes more selective, Those from local kindergarten might have advantage.
作者: babyonboard 時間: 17-2-14 19:50
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I agree that local kindergarten has advantages now. But I don't know how they get interview. Buy NR? Anyone knows? It makes me so hesitated to take their kindergarten offer now
作者: Moonlight819 時間: 17-2-14 19:52
Saboc 發表於 17-2-14 19:40 
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Most esf kinders speak fluent English.
It seems that we're cheated by them..

作者: Joeyhk 時間: 17-2-14 20:11
Moonlight819 發表於 17-2-14 19:52 
It seems that we're cheated by them..
For all esf school, esf kindergarten students already have the interview priority which already stand for a better position.
And seems the rule of the game are,
- Foundation schools- kindergarten students has priority for interview and the chance is by random no. Indeed, a lot of kindergarten students has got the offer during the 1st stage.
- For RC, it stated clearly that the priority only represent a ticket for the interview chance. Offer or not will depends on the kids's performance during interview.
Under this point, I will say esf kindergarten already did what they promised, i.e., priority for interview.. but not priority of offer.

作者: elsathomas 時間: 17-2-14 20:15
本帖最後由 elsathomas 於 17-2-14 20:25 編輯
964000 發表於 17-2-14 19:06 
I wonder how's the placement of ESF Ting Chung ?
Esf tung chung placement-
From what i heard, in my kid's class, AT LEAST 11 received offers from sjs, kjs, bhs, rc or dc, and at least 5 on waiting, 1 got rejected.
Besides RC & DC, I still believe esf kindies have much higher chance to esf primary than outsiders which most of them have even no interview granted. Besides NR and siblings, i still believe over 90% of those who got an offer are esf kindies.
For RC and DC, they already stated that esf kindies only have priority for interview, they can select whoever they want, and thats why they may select outsiders instead of esf kindies.

作者: nintendo 時間: 17-2-14 20:26
Saboc 發表於 17-2-14 19:40 
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Most esf kinders speak fluent English.
I still believe ESF primary select students based on English ability.
May be those that failed interview really have poor English skills?
Note that there are now much more children from really local family with ESF kindergartens.
On the other hand, some children that are from local kindergartens might very good english environment at home.
作者: nintendo 時間: 17-2-14 20:30
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babyonboard 發表於 17-2-14 19:50 
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I agree that local kindergarten has advantages now. But I don't know how they get ...
For ESF primary schools, ESF kindergarten children still has priority.
However, if a lot of ESF children failed the interview, non-ESF kindergarten children will get interview chance.
Also, I know there are parents that are really willing to pay NR.
作者: Moonlight819 時間: 17-2-14 23:38
Is there any ESF parents of last year to share their experiences in these cases?

作者: iorilam 時間: 17-2-14 23:56
How is ESF TY allocation result this year? I heard last year over 90% got offer.

作者: diablo3 時間: 17-2-15 09:25
elsathomas 發表於 17-2-14 20:15 
Esf tung chung placement-
From what i heard, in my kid's class, AT LEAST 11 received offers from ...
Mind to tell the one who got rejected is from local family?
作者: Junefour 時間: 17-2-15 09:43
babyonboard 發表於 17-2-14 19:29 
Language ability and social interactive skills can be trained. How much the ESF kindergarten works o ...
Parents and teachers should always work together. This so called "responsibility" of "training" the kids is never a one side job. I feel ESF provides a natural environment for children to develop their language and social skills through the inquiry culture and various group activities.

作者: comel 時間: 17-2-15 09:48 標題: 回覆樓主:
esf kinder students shouldn't have any problem in english speaking, right? i wonder why esf primary school could reject its own students. same education system should have advantage on it, isn't it? after viewing so many posts regarding year 1, i hesitate to go for second interview of esf kindergarten, i worried for the year 1 application.

作者: babyonboard 時間: 17-2-15 09:48
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i want to know the admission rate too. anyone from esf tsing yi can share? will be greatly appreciated.
作者: YYNGSUKI 時間: 17-2-15 09:53
I learnt some of the reject cases last year which were the kids don't talk with the teacher at all during the interview!
作者: Moonlight819 時間: 17-2-15 09:55
YYNGSUKI 發表於 17-2-15 09:53 
I learnt some of the reject cases last year which were the kids don't talk with the teacher at all d ...
Do you know where did they go in the end?

作者: Saboc 時間: 17-2-15 10:00
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This year situation is really scary and seems the esf kindergartens could not be so confident as before to have more than 90 % of sucessful rate. However, musical chair continues after first round of admission. Sure more kinders on current waiting list would be given offer.
One thing is sure is that it is more and more competitive and the esf kindergarten students should have more preparation in advance no matter you are happy with the change or not.
作者: babyonboard 時間: 17-2-15 10:14
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I m hesitated to take their k1 offer now
作者: elsathomas 時間: 17-2-15 10:15
diablo3 發表於 17-2-15 09:25 
Mind to tell the one who got rejected is from local family?
The kid is an asian. We have play dates so I know the kid. The kid is very bright and can speak english fluently, I was surprised to hear the kid got rejected by a esf primary but passed RC/DC interview.

作者: Moonlight819 時間: 17-2-15 10:18
elsathomas 發表於 17-2-15 10:15 
The kid is an asian. We have play dates so I know the kid. The kid is very bright and can speak eng ...
Where did he go at last?

作者: elsathomas 時間: 17-2-15 10:28
Moonlight819 發表於 17-2-15 10:18 
Where did he go at last?
Probably another IS while waiting for RC/DC.

作者: Moonlight819 時間: 17-2-15 10:28
comel 發表於 17-2-15 09:48 
esf kinder students shouldn't have any problem in english speaking, right? i wonder why esf primary ...
Agree! If ESF primary reject its own ESF kindy, the kindergarten should have the greatest responsibility!

作者: comel 時間: 17-2-15 10:39 標題: 回覆樓主:
Does anyone know that if siblings priority can guaranteed a place in esf primary? if english is not a problem, but my little girl is too shy to talk to stranger. Unlike her sister who is outgoing and chatty box. What i worried is after putting her in international kinder without any Chinese background and fail to get in primary, I don't know what can i do then, as it will be very hard to catch up with local system.

作者: little-pig-pig 時間: 17-2-15 10:45
本帖最後由 little-pig-pig 於 17-2-15 13:36 編輯
睇完咁多 post,今年有 rumor 話英基收好多外校生唔收自己生,我想分享下我知道既野
1. 收外校生多既 ESF Schools (指Non-PIS) 其實只係港島區既 ESF Schools,因為港島區得一間ESF Kindy但有5間小學,所以一定夠 Capacity 收晒 Kindy 學生再收外校生。
2. 九龍同新界區既 ESF Schools (指KJS/ BHS/ SJS),我冇聽過今年有外校生有第一輪收offer (有Sibling/ Alumni Priority 同買 NR 既外校生除外)。基本上第一輪收 offer 全部都係 ESF Kindy 有 Guaranteed Interview個批學生。至於Reserved List Interview 完就好自然係收 Waiting,當有 Guaranteed List 個批有人Fail Interview或者放棄學位,咁咪會後補上,不嬲遊戲規則都係咁玩。
3. 會收外校生既 PIS (指RC/DC),人地一早講明 ESF Kindy 有面試優先,唔係收生優先。所以我冇聽過我仔間ESF Kindy有學生冇得去 RC Interview。至於人地比你 Interview 同會收你,係兩碼子既事,有爬文都知RC係 Selective,會揀學生。咁技不如人,唔夠人爭,又有什麼好講?(利申: 我冇報PIS)
小朋友係 Kindy 時間只係每日3小時,其實大部分時間都係屋企。學校提供一個英語環境同Interview入場票,但父母同小朋友努力先係最重要。唔通真係乜都唔洗搞唔洗做就會有 IB 45分嗎?世上有咁便宜的事嗎?
最後,係到溫馨提醒某人,做人唔好咁大鼻,一日未考入英基小學,都唔好當正自己係英基代言人,英基有幾多學生拎IB 45分其實關我地幼稚園生既家長條鐵事,唔洗咁樣周圍去攞彩,又踩人地讀寶校,其實呢到好多人都記得呢件事。
作者: Moonlight819 時間: 17-2-15 10:58
little-pig-pig 發表於 17-2-15 10:45 
睇完咁多 post,今年有 rumor 話英基收好多外校生唔收自己生,我想分享下我知道既野
1. 收外校生多既 ESF ...
如有在EK爬文, 有家長已說KJS 收了她的小朋友,而她小孩不是讀ESF kindy!

作者: Joeyhk 時間: 17-2-15 10:59
iorilam 發表於 17-2-14 23:56 
How is ESF TY allocation result this year? I heard last year over 90% got offer.
From my observation, the % should be similar this year.. most of the kids has offer during 1st stage so far.

作者: babyonboard 時間: 17-2-15 11:01
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really? good to hear some good news finally 
作者: little-pig-pig 時間: 17-2-15 11:08
Moonlight819 發表於 17-2-15 10:58 
如有在EK爬文, 有家長已說KJS 收了她的小朋友,而她小孩不是讀ESF kindy!
本帖最後由 little-pig-pig 於 17-2-15 11:34 編輯
你指York 入KJS個位?你睇清楚個post, 人地之後解釋入KJS係幾年前既事

作者: Alvin32 時間: 17-2-15 11:38
I don't think parents should blame any schools For not getting an offer or just got a wait list at the moment. Interviews are always depends on kids performance on that day or somehow luck, same as we adults having job interview. Besides, the first key factor for kids development must be from parental guidance, school is also important but it's comparatively should be an assistant position. That's why schools are always emphasise school parents cooperation is very important.

作者: AJW2010 時間: 17-2-15 11:48
Moonlight819 發表於 17-2-15 10:58 
如有在EK爬文, 有家長已說KJS 收了她的小朋友,而她小孩不是讀ESF kindy!
This cannot be true, according to the school admission staff!
作者: Moonlight819 時間: 17-2-15 11:49
little-pig-pig 發表於 17-2-15 11:08 
本帖最後由 little-pig-pig 於 17-2-15 11:34 編輯
你指York 入KJS個位?你睇清楚個post, 人地之後解釋 ...
不是那個,是今年offer,自己看清楚吧!

作者: 貝珠 時間: 17-2-15 11:53
Moonlight819 發表於 17-2-15 10:58 
如有在EK爬文, 有家長已說KJS 收了她的小朋友,而她小孩不是讀ESF kindy!
不是今年的,也未必是first round . 如果今年有人冇NR, 冇other priority ,其他non esf kinder 而first round 入kjs , SJS , BH, 請核實,so far 未聽到有

作者: little-pig-pig 時間: 17-2-15 11:55
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作者: chanm123 時間: 17-2-15 12:07
babyonboard 發表於 17-2-15 11:01 
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really? good to hear some good news finally
Yes great to hear that!!

作者: hong0706 時間: 17-2-15 12:47
Moonlight819 發表於 17-2-15 11:49 
不是那個,是今年offer,自己看清楚吧!
EK 吹水的人多的是,你咁都信?
作者: elsathomas 時間: 17-2-15 12:55
little-pig-pig 發表於 17-2-15 10:45 
睇完咁多 post,今年有 rumor 話英基收好多外校生唔收自己生,我想分享下我知道既野
1. 收外校生多既 ESF ...
我好認同,如果有小部分esf kindies唔pass,唔可以話責任喺哂esf 度, 唔好講到好似比esf呃左咁, 我知道有不只一個esf kindies家長日比老師話 'english below standard',呢d好大機會就係嗰d唔pass嘅case.
好多LS有自己小學都係唔guarantee收自己幼稚園生啦,只會話有優先.
學校最多幫到學生五成,然後真係好睇小朋友自己資質加上家長怎樣培養, 如果唔係點會有人攞滿分又有人唔合格? 私校為要提高自己質素而揀學生係好正常.
唔好攞出面某啲國際幼稚園(話自己target國際&傳統小學嗰d) 同esf比, 跟本兩回事,要比同真IS比.
如果真心鍾意target esf primary/secondary, 真係讀佢幼稚園大機會好多!

作者: elsathomas 時間: 17-2-15 12:57 標題: 回覆樓主:
本帖最後由 elsathomas 於 17-2-15 12:58 編輯
我個人好滿意esf 幼稚園,佢地真係可以做到learn thru play,老師好caring, 甚至校長第一日番學喺門口竟然講得出我小朋友讀邊班!
我小朋友只在K2開始讀了5個多月,最大改變係creative左同獨立左,英文vocab同常識識多咗好多!
佢係一個active但好慢熱超級痴身嘅人,班主任同我講留意到佢好鍾意成日痴住老師,所以會多鼓勵佢出去extended classroom同其他小朋友玩多d, 又可以去隔離班搵佢校巴朋友玩,又有提及佢其他性格,見老師咁了解佢,我好感恩. 我小朋友每日帶回家嘅勞作全部係自己設計,好多特別嘅materials,重有同老師一齊整嘅卡同故事書,佢識哂d星球名同每個星球有乜特質,教living things時每班有放真昆蟲cricket,mealworms lizard!學校重請左專人帶d小動物hedgehog,snake etc去學校比佢地摸, 搞CNY street fair搞得好好! 舞獅表演成個獅頭都係小朋友自己整的! 又可以帶自己鍾意既故事書番學老師會讀比全班聽..
This is just my personal comment but based on facts, 希望大家睇完會了解esf kindergarten 多d..

作者: Saboc 時間: 17-2-15 13:02
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外校無priority unlikely 有得in sjs, Bhs and khs
有啲人買咗NR 唔會同人mention
作者: diablo3 時間: 17-2-15 13:03
elsathomas 發表於 17-2-15 12:57 
我個人好滿意esf 幼稚園,佢地真係可以做到learn thru play,老師好caring, 甚至校長第一日番學喺門口竟然講 ...
你小朋友係咪mixed呀?另外想問下。。你覺得小朋友講既英文口音係咪一個好重要收唔收Y1既因素呢。。。
作者: elsathomas 時間: 17-2-15 13:33
diablo3 發表於 17-2-15 13:03 
你小朋友係咪mixed呀?另外想問下。。你覺得小朋友講既英文口音係咪一個好重要收唔收Y1既因素呢。。。 ...
No we are local parents, but my kid can speak almost native english.
我相信唔關口音事, 係主要睇fluency, vocab, how well they can use english to express..
Esf year 1 interview info session 講過話係睇小朋友適唔適合用英文去學習同接受esf小學課程.(呢樣我覺得好重要)
當然exactly咩level真係唔可以好precise咁話到比你聽,同埋係咪個個老師一樣期望要求真係冇人知,但一個4歲日常生活會識既中文,英文都要識同講到,就應該唔會pass唔到個interview!
Add oil!

作者: Moonlight819 時間: 17-2-15 13:54
elsathomas 發表於 17-2-15 13:33 
No we are local parents, but my kid can speak almost native english.
我相信唔關口音事, 係主要睇flu ...
Actually I see every students can speak fluent English in my son's class. I know a case that the child can pass the English assessment in the kindy before and the teachers said he performs well in class, but he got rejected by a ESF primary!

作者: elsathomas 時間: 17-2-15 14:42
Moonlight819 發表於 17-2-15 13:54 
Actually I see every students can speak fluent English in my son's class. I know a case that the ch ...
I think in this case he should call esf primary and find out why. Hope they will explain.

作者: Moonlight819 時間: 17-2-15 18:32
Can anyone share about the cases of last year?

作者: 貝珠 時間: 17-2-15 19:13
Last year, many waiting cases got offers from foundation school or RC may be 2 months later .
some waiting cases ( from wks ) got offer from cwbs and beacon hill finally . Both of them applied SJS. They got the offers very late .
1-2 cases have no offer from any IS, 1 case went to Victoria k3

作者: nintendo 時間: 17-2-15 19:21
little-pig-pig 發表於 17-2-15 10:45 
最後,係到溫馨提醒某人,做人唔好咁大鼻,一日未考入英基小學,都唔好當正自己係英基代言人,英基有幾多學生拎IB 45分其實關我地幼稚園生既家長條鐵事,唔洗咁樣周圍去攞彩,又踩人地讀寶校,其實呢到好多人都記得呢件事。
你指邊位?
其實,好似有好多個 ESF kinder 家長都係咁。
作為 ESF 中學家長,我以往提過,叫大家唔好太在意 IB 排名。
作者: ciaochibi 時間: 17-2-15 19:22
comel 發表於 17-2-15 09:48 
esf kinder students shouldn't have any problem in english speaking, right? i wonder why esf primary ...
My kid is in ESF kindergarten, she was rejected by RC. Her eng proficiency should be up to standard, the only problem is she is not the outspoken one and needs time to warm up. For this kind Of mechanical interview process, my little one definitely cannot impress the interviewer. But is it kindergarten or my little one problem? The reality is, due to keen competition, they could only seek for those they so called "readily developed " kids. Nowadays don't blindly believe there is less competition in international schools,the competition takes place at 4 and may be from 2 (for entering kG)

作者: little-pig-pig 時間: 17-2-15 19:25
nintendo 發表於 17-2-15 19:21 
你指邊位?
其實,好似有好多個 ESF kinder 家長都係咁。
作為 ESF 中學家長,我以往提過,叫大家唔好太在 ...
廢事開名啦,始終係溫馨提示,我相信某人自己亦心中有數,佢亦都無謂對號入座,搞掂入小學先講。

作者: nintendo 時間: 17-2-15 19:27
little-pig-pig 發表於 17-2-15 19:25 
廢事開名啦,始終係溫馨提示,我相信某人自己亦心中有數,佢亦都無謂對號入座,搞掂入小學先講。
...
No problem. I probably know who you are talking about.
作者: nintendo 時間: 17-2-15 19:29
Moonlight819 發表於 17-2-15 13:54 
Actually I see every students can speak fluent English in my son's class. I know a case that the ch ...
In that case, can we legitimately conclude that it is not only English fluency ESF is looking for?
作者: hillywind 時間: 17-2-15 19:50
nintendo 發表於 17-2-15 19:21 
你指邊位?
其實,好似有好多個 ESF kinder 家長都係咁。
作為 ESF 中學家長,我以往提過,叫大家唔好太在 ...
May I know why? IB ranking is really a clear clue for outsiders... Do you think it cannot reflect the true academic level of an ESF school?

作者: hong0706 時間: 17-2-15 21:37
nintendo 發表於 17-2-15 19:29 
In that case, can we legitimately conclude that it is not only English fluency ESF is looking for?
...
When you see multiple cases of native english speakers needing a second chance interview or rejected, and many of them were not selected to attend enrichment courses, you know they also require the kids to sit properly and be willing to speak up. Didn't they, in the admission briefing, emphasis again and again that they can encourage kids to speak up? And many of these kids have no problems in classes, just that they may be shy in new environment with strangers.
作者: nintendo 時間: 17-2-15 22:57
hillywind 發表於 17-2-15 19:50 
May I know why? IB ranking is really a clear clue for outsiders... Do you think it cannot reflect t ...
What "true" academic level do you want to know?
Say, one school "School A" has IB average 39, another school "School B" has average of 37.5.
Which one will you choose?
Are you sure School A is more suitable for your child?
作者: nintendo 時間: 17-2-15 23:08
hong0706 發表於 17-2-15 21:37 
When you see multiple cases of native english speakers needing a second chance interview or rejected ...
人地 interview 問問題,一個有問必答,一個唔出聲,
如果收了唔出聲那一個,可能到時鬧人的,是有問必答的小朋友家長。
作者: nintendo 時間: 17-2-15 23:18
申請人多,一定有人名落孫山。
ESF 點選擇,都會比人鬧。
作者: cytjulia 時間: 17-2-15 23:59
little-pig-pig 發表於 17-2-15 10:45 
睇完咁多 post,今年有 rumor 話英基收好多外校生唔收自己生,我想分享下我知道既野
1. 收外校生多既 ESF ...
十分同意, 入英基前我已經盡量做資料搜集OK先訓身報佢既幼稚園, 我報哂3間(DC, KJS, RC) 全部waiting, 事已至此, 大哭一場之後只能承認自家小朋友唔夠運(KJS by random純講運), 同唔夠人叻(RC擺明係selective, DC相信亦一樣), 講真內心好徬徨, 又冇報其他IS, 見到其他同學仔報喜心中真的不是味兒, 但無法已經發生左, 而家可以做既就係等, 同埋睇下仲有冇其他IS可報, 試多幾間, 再怨落去實在於己無益。
作為一個未有著落既家長, 我始終冇後悔讀ESF, 既然知道遊戲規則, 揀左冇得怨, 自家小朋友唔夠人鍊, 唯有以後比心機好好準備。
共勉之, 希望最後大家都搵到學校。
作者: Petitechien 時間: 17-2-16 00:37 標題: 回覆:cytjulia 的帖子
U r right! 同做人一樣,有運條路就易行,我地in 都冇得in, bad random number. 不過只係一個細路,仲有大把路行,仲有大把樣要選擇!I also see some outsiders got places but there is nothing I can say now. We are also from esf kinder

作者: 貝珠 時間: 17-2-16 07:35
Petitechien 發表於 17-2-16 00:37 
U r right! 同做人一樣,有運條路就易行,我地in 都冇得in, bad random number. 不過只係一個細路,仲有大 ...
你K2 才插班,真係同outsiders 一樣,冇priority

作者: comel 時間: 17-2-16 08:41
cytjulia 發表於 17-2-15 23:59 
十分同意, 入英基前我已經盡量做資料搜集OK先訓身報佢既幼稚園, 我報哂3間(DC, KJS, RC) 全部waiting, 事 ...
esf kinder都無得in, 點解呀?

作者: little-pig-pig 時間: 17-2-16 08:53
cytjulia 發表於 17-2-15 23:59 
十分同意, 入英基前我已經盡量做資料搜集OK先訓身報佢既幼稚園, 我報哂3間(DC, KJS, RC) 全部waiting, 事 ...
本帖最後由 little-pig-pig 於 17-2-16 09:00 編輯
我欣賞你既態度正面,識得檢討自己既不足,之後準備好再重新上路。考小學只係漫漫長路既開頭,唔好因一次半次就怨天尤人。因我知過咗24號好多人會放位,真心祝福你,希望之後係到收到你好消息!



作者: lovely_xo 時間: 17-2-16 09:01
cytjulia 發表於 17-2-15 23:59 
十分同意, 入英基前我已經盡量做資料搜集OK先訓身報佢既幼稚園, 我報哂3間(DC, KJS, RC) 全部waiting, 事 ...
我小朋友KJS 要second in, RC DC waitlist. 是失望的。但昨天問了DC在waitlist排20s,希望在second round 有offer. 你也問問吧!Good Luck!

作者: birdbird 時間: 17-2-16 09:33 標題: 回覆樓主:
其實多年以來, ESF 從沒承諾幼稚園的小朋友是一條龍上ESF primary, 而只係面試有priority 而矣。有得面試, 但結果冇 offer 或只得waiting, 唔可以頼ESF 幼稚園。亦唔可以話ESF Primary 或 兩間PIS 收non ESF kindy學生 係對ESF kindy 不公 (在被封的舖曾有如此指控)。
在面試过程, 不理學生來自边間kindy, 而看學生表現, 這不是公平嗎?!

作者: t88amb 時間: 17-2-16 09:48
birdbird 發表於 17-2-16 09:33 
其實多年以來, ESF 從沒承諾幼稚園的小朋友是一條龍上ESF primary, 而只係面試有priority 而矣。有得面試, ...
其實學校在介紹會上講明每年他們小一的學生的確來自多間不同的幼稚園也包括本地幼稚園的學生, 這種模式已經很多年, 不過每年也有家長大叫不公平.
作者: polyu4537 時間: 17-2-16 10:16
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Agree !!!!!
作者: luckyveronique 時間: 17-2-16 10:41
birdbird 發表於 17-2-16 09:33 
其實多年以來, ESF 從沒承諾幼稚園的小朋友是一條龍上ESF primary, 而只係面試有priority 而矣。有得面試, ...
agree no more!

作者: Mwong818 時間: 17-2-16 10:48
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請教一下lovely_xo妳有問Rc? 他們會回答waiting list 第幾位?因我小朋友也是waiting. 謝謝回覆。
作者: 964000 時間: 17-2-16 10:49
多年前,當時都未有咁多間ESF kinder , ESF亦不像現在搶手,我朋友個女在TY ESF 已經in 完BHS 得waiting, RC reject。佢當時很傍惶,隔離班有家長jump了(相信大家還記得),佢到處撲學校(其實一定找到,但不是首選)求神拜佛乜都出齊。
最後差不多開學,Kjs call 佢話有位收佢,佢開心攬萶個女到喊!而家個女都升中一了,佢講番呢件事都感觸良多。共勉之!

作者: Alvin32 時間: 17-2-16 11:02
birdbird 發表於 17-2-16 09:33 
其實多年以來, ESF 從沒承諾幼稚園的小朋友是一條龍上ESF primary, 而只係面試有priority 而矣。有得面試, ...
Cannot agree more!!!

作者: lovely_xo 時間: 17-2-16 11:28
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RC did not disclose to me......
作者: Shuidudu 時間: 17-2-16 11:28
lovely_xo 發表於 17-2-16 09:01 
我小朋友KJS 要second in, RC DC waitlist. 是失望的。但昨天問了DC在waitlist排20s,希望在second round ...
May i know when will the second interview be?

作者: lovely_xo 時間: 17-2-16 11:32
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April/May....letter said they will contact me again in April.
作者: Saboc 時間: 17-2-16 11:35
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好正面,但眀白未有offer 現階段係擔心!
作者: cytjulia 時間: 17-2-16 12:08
lovely_xo 發表於 17-2-16 09:01 
我小朋友KJS 要second in, RC DC waitlist. 是失望的。但昨天問了DC在waitlist排20s,希望在second round ...
之前已經問左,排150s, DC係我首選,我地樓都睇緊準備搬入去開展新生活,但都要放下了。

作者: cytjulia 時間: 17-2-16 12:22
t88amb 發表於 17-2-16 09:48 
其實學校在介紹會上講明每年他們小一的學生的確來自多間不同的幼稚園也包括本地幼稚園的學生, 這種模式已經 ...
坦白講,其實佢都有d approach去令ESF學生易收d, 例如優先面試,同埋小學會派老師去幼稚園見面認識先,安排同班同學仔一齊in,我女pm class,3間都安排在下午in,其實呢d係你讀其他kinder都唔會有既安排,呢d approach parent handbook都寫得清楚,入學前已經睇哂。
所以就算而家冇offer,學我老公話你係冇得怨的,因為大家清楚明白哂所有野先比個女入……anyway, 今日會去其他IS交下表,多兩手準備

作者: Artie 時間: 17-2-16 12:29
小女是大學生,小兒也 Year 13。
近幾個月也是 Year 13 學生拿到大學 offer 的時期,成績好的早已有多個 offer 在手,成績一般的會慢一點才有消息。
看著其他同學有 offer 在手,很多仍然未有着落的同學一定十分的心急。
而即使有 offer 的,也唔敢太老定,因為大部分只是 conditional offer,如果五月 exam 失手,拿不到大學 set 的要求的成績,就麻煩。
Year 13 成績,是學生可以掌握的,但我多年觀察,仍然有很多令人有點意外的 "賽果"。
考 Year 1 的小朋友只係四五歲,都冇話叻唔叻。
考到?恭喜,可以放一心頭大石。
考唔到?可惜,但不可以就這樣話小朋友唔叻。
每個小朋友都是爸爸媽媽的寶貝。
失望憤怒過後,也要收拾心情,快找其他出路。
不要太迷信學校是否熱門,所謂的熱門,很多情形只是人云亦云下吹的風,
小朋友的潛能性格,不會在四五歳定形,
放鬆心情,也放下怨恨,
祝福大家。
作者: Moonlight819 時間: 17-2-16 12:35
cytjulia 發表於 17-2-16 12:22 
坦白講,其實佢都有d approach去令ESF學生易收d, 例如優先面試,同埋小學會派老師去幼稚園見面認識先,安 ...
請問現在有哪間IS仍接受admission呢?

作者: lovely_xo 時間: 17-2-16 12:42
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老實說,三間都有interview,而且全部可以同同學仔一組,我覺得已經達到咗我對ESF kinder的期望。希望你有好消息!
作者: cytjulia 時間: 17-2-16 12:44
Moonlight819 發表於 17-2-16 12:35 
請問現在有哪間IS仍接受admission呢?
我問左AISHK全年都接受申請,同學仔家長早兩星期報左AIS, 聽聞ymca都可以但仍未証實,要遂間打去問

作者: cytjulia 時間: 17-2-16 12:50
lovely_xo 發表於 17-2-16 12:42 
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老實說,三間都有interview,而且全部可以同同學仔一組,我覺得已經達到咗我對ESF ki ...
係,可以同同學仔一齊好緊要,個人都定d, 講真我女唔係好outstanding個隻仲要成間學校都知佢好shy好易喊,非常emotional個隻,佢in個陣都有喊,但3間都sucess只係冇位,我都同校長講佢其實佢係qualified的,英文絕對冇問題,就係爭左d運,所以我好為個女驕傲,完全冇質疑佢既能力。
都係個句,唔好泄左度氣!DC個primary haed講得好好,一個4歲人仔可以離開父母去一個陌生環境同陌生人interview咁耐,they are outstanding and you all should be proud of them!

作者: Mwong818 時間: 17-2-16 13:03
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