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作者: willyg    時間: 20-3-6 18:57     標題: ISF vs 學之園

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作者: Jane1983    時間: 20-3-6 19:04     標題: 回覆樓主:

點會tough decision? 一間行國際,一間考本地學校,完全兩樣嘢。家長想小朋友行咩路呢?自己唔想清楚,要一個幼童讀兩間幼稚園,日日係街上或車上食lunch 和換校服趕下場。令你為難的,竟然只是logistics 的安排  

作者: gfkwong    時間: 20-3-6 19:53

好易選。想去傳統名校定國際先?

作者: kittykuma    時間: 20-3-6 22:12

willyg 發表於 20-3-6 18:57
My son is currently in LH N class (am) and secured K1 place for 20-21. We just got ISF Y1 (pm) offer ...

你有同時返兩間的心,我想學之園比較適合你

作者: willyg    時間: 20-3-6 22:55     標題: 回覆樓主:

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作者: yohan    時間: 20-3-7 07:45     標題: 回覆樓主:

if you are well prepared, apply a few more IS for primary and not just aiming for the top IS, I think it should be easier than the local P1 application.  (afterall IS P1 interviews are unlikely to have 3 or 4 interviews in each school)

Do include some nurturing but not highly saught after IS. Although I think ISF will still give offers to majority of their kindy kids (i went to their open day last year and they sounded reassuring then)

作者: 964000    時間: 20-3-7 10:45

willyg 發表於 20-3-6 18:57
My son is currently in LH N class (am) and secured K1 place for 20-21. We just got ISF Y1 (pm) offer ...

Depends on what you aim for.
ISF kinder is for targeting ISF primary mainly, it may not provide enough English environment for targeting IS cuz it’s 30% English and 70% Chinese if you cannot provide extra English outside school.
ISF is more like a bilingual school rather than IS, so I think you can probably still apply for local schools at P1 if you wish later after you get into ISF foundation. They even teach maths in eng and chi and got quite a lot of homework compare to IS.

作者: Saboc    時間: 20-3-7 13:50

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Really too much!!! 每年都有 小數家長會有咁嘅諗法,真係恐怖
作者: Saboc    時間: 20-3-7 13:53

其實我都有見過有小朋友的讀咗兩間幼稚園,但慢慢上到小學其實 佢表現並唔係特別突出
作者: Jane1983    時間: 20-3-7 15:55

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仲想突出?唔厭學都偷笑了。
作者: Saboc    時間: 20-3-7 16:27

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係,佢比較曳, 但我相信同佢讀兩間幼稚園無关,主要係反映parenting 發生咗問題. 如果係因為家長自己未諗定或者又想呢有想嗰啲, 過多想滿足嘅要求,小朋友就會高不成低不就
作者: Jane1983    時間: 20-3-7 16:45

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咁既安排,有行為問題都好正常。試過幾次係街,見到d工人和小朋友坐係路邊餵飯,兩個書包放係隔離,準備趕下場。流離浪蕩,好淒涼。
如果你要你配偶,日日返兩份工,中午趕到趕命食飯,跟住係商場公廁換衫返工。為的係你未諗清楚,想買個保險,佢唔反臉!?

作者: Activehealth    時間: 20-3-7 20:46

Jane1983 發表於 20-3-7 16:45
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咁既安排,有行為問題都好正常。試過幾次係街,見到d工人和小朋友坐係路邊餵飯,兩個書 ...

識有個小朋友,讀幼稚園時上晝讀本地普通話幼稚園,下晝讀國際幼稚園。

佢有一架七人車連司機及一個外傭貼身照顧。上完上晝堂之後,司機直接送至下一站,途中在七人車食晏午睡,再換另一套校服上國際幼稚園,無投訴辛苦。

之後入國際小學Y1(全日際),話放學後好得閒唔知做乜好,阿媽要安排N樣課後活動。

當然,大前提下要有咁嘅資源人手安排。如果無,就唔好攞個小朋友較飛。

作者: mindfulmom    時間: 20-3-7 22:31

willyg 發表於 20-3-6 18:57
My son is currently in LH N class (am) and secured K1 place for 20-21. We just got ISF Y1 (pm) offer ...

For ISF, you at least got higher chance to enter ISF Primary. No priority to any primary school for LH. Unless you have other priorities like parent alumni or sibling, I'll go for the one with backup.

作者: gfkwong    時間: 20-3-7 22:40

ISF 好似係80%以上去小學,都算好大,LH無保障,而且越開越多,其實個個都想入男拔coed,加埋得幾百個位,大部分人都考唔到神校。

作者: safeway    時間: 20-3-9 14:10

kittykuma 發表於 20-3-6 22:12
你有同時返兩間的心,我想學之園比較適合你

Can’t agree more!!!
如果再多這類家長在IS, 真係會搞亂個生態

作者: 細佬Bebe    時間: 20-3-15 02:11

學之園本身都好chur 好多活動功課
Isf都唔係hea既國際學校 入得去既同學仔都勁勁想升上去

兩間個環境要求都咁chur
返哂兩間 真係全家都癲

與其返哂兩間 不如揀好一條路 將啲精力好好咁行個條路啦

點解要有保障呢個concept? 點解唔對自己既選擇同小朋友有啲信心?

作者: rat2020    時間: 20-4-8 16:43

Isf 其實係少於80% 入到academy,因為係Kindergarden 會不停勸退or deferred kids. 去提升入學率(acedamy).isf 幼稚園係K1嘅時候已經會開始勸退細B及不停叫家長聘請tutor! 還會不停叫家長反思為何你請的tutor跟不上學校進度!(但其實Isf Pre school 嘅內容係偏淺)只係中文要求比較高.所以當中有很多家長發現中途不合適但係都要忍受因為很難再轉校,因為佢英文程度其他國際學校都不再接受!(曾經的用家上)己轉其他國際學校

作者: cris01    時間: 20-4-8 18:25

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We are in the same situation. Got ISF K offer, but may choose to stay in current school because the drop out rate of ISF K and Academy is very high compared to other schools. There seems to be a lot of complaint about ISF from the current/past parents, which makes us quite scared to take the offer..we don't want our child to keep switching schools. What was your decision in the end?
作者: JanetCMC    時間: 20-4-8 18:59     標題: 回覆樓主:

請留意新會員
請留意新會員
請留意新會員
(重要事情要講3次)

作者: cris01    時間: 20-4-8 19:17

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How rude.. yes I am a new member because my child got new offers and I want to hear and share experiences before I chose the best school that fits my child. I only expressed what I heard from others on two threads. I am also open to listen to other's suggestions as I may be wrong too. I assume you are a current/past ISF parent that can't take any criticism on your school, sorry about that then.  
作者: rat2020    時間: 20-4-8 20:30

willyg 發表於 20-3-6 18:57
My son is currently in LH N class (am) and secured K1 place for 20-21. We just got ISF Y1 (pm) offer ...

小心Isf打手

小心ISF打手

小心ISF 打手

小心ISF打手

小心ISF打手

(重要事情要講5次)

作者: candybar123    時間: 20-4-8 21:05

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Hi I messaged you with question
作者: candybar123    時間: 20-4-8 21:38

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JanetCMC is an ex student of ISF
作者: cris01    時間: 20-4-8 22:02

candybar123 發表於 20-4-8 21:38
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JanetCMC is an ex student of ISF

Oh....no wonder I got a rude reply

作者: JanetCMC    時間: 20-4-9 02:35     標題: 回覆樓主:

其實我讀 ISF 嗰時
d 同學都係來來去去
有的轉了 GSIS, SIS, WIS, UWC
有的轉了 DGS, SPCC(但比較少)
我又真係唔覺得有太大問題喎
同埋被勸退的,會大大聲同人講
“我小朋友係被勸退㗎“?
可能 ISF kinder 會啦(我唔知)
始終我都畢咗業好多年

同埋 ex student 又點?
證明我同 ISF 係真係有情感上嘅連繫

作者: JanetCMC    時間: 20-4-9 02:44     標題: 回覆樓主:

真正愛一間學校
要欣賞佢好嘅地方
同時要包容佢唔好嘅地方
每間學校都其有好處同可改善嘅地方
無一間學校係完美
既然選擇咗
就要相信學校,相信自己

作者: Jane1983    時間: 20-4-9 08:49

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論壇上,有用家、ex 用家、街外人,邊有咁多「真正愛學校的人」?大家網上分享,只要講的嘢唔係造假,無所謂。
Ex 用家,走得,唔滿意、唔開心,批評吓都能夠理解。但有時我聽d人分享,明明係跳船,考好多間要轉到更好的學校。但又盛讚舊校好到不得了,好佢又咁急走?一樣虛偽。

作者: candybar123    時間: 20-4-9 08:59

Jane1983 發表於 20-4-9 08:49
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論壇上,有用家、ex 用家、街外人,邊有咁多「真正愛學校的人」?大家網上分享,只 ...
Agree. Usually parents won't withdraw (especially so early on in primary) unless they are unhappy.
It is great that JanetCMC loves her alma mater but we are talking about Preschool here, which was only established in recent years. Also things might have changed since JanetCMC left.

It is good to have different perspectives, whether they are negative or positive. I believe this is the purpose of this forum.

作者: cris01    時間: 20-4-9 09:13

JanetCMC 發表於 20-4-9 02:35
其實我讀 ISF 嗰時
d 同學都係來來去去
有的轉了 GSIS, SIS, WIS, UWC

Good for you that you loved the school so much. I believe not everyone had the same view and some had very bad experiences leading them to voice out their opinions. You should not judge someone when you don’t know the real story. This is an open forum, it’s good to hear from the both sides, otherwise there is no purpose of these chats.

作者: rat2020    時間: 20-4-9 09:37

Jane1983 發表於 20-4-9 08:49
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論壇上,有用家、ex 用家、街外人,邊有咁多「真正愛學校的人」?大家網上分享,只 ...

其實某程度上我就係感覺唔到間學校有愛,連學校本身都唔支持家長同學生又如何愛學校呢?!以及個人覺得如果喺裏面逗留得太耐都會twisted your mind所以我好慶幸可以及早離開.

另外Isf其實成立都唔係好多年,又如何離開咗ISf好耐?中途離開?或是只係讀最尾嗰幾年?是否十分理解學校?
同埋點解畢咗業咁耐都仲會留意呢個forum ?

再者好明顯Isf 係唔接納其他人嘅意見,喺裏面讀耐得都會可能變成咁,所以接納唔到新會員.以我之前嘅經驗感覺到Isf 係唔俾小朋友發問過多問題!會建議小朋友唔好問太多問題喺課堂中!

作者: JanetCMC    時間: 20-4-9 09:39     標題: 回覆樓主:

ISF 除了貴同遠,中文難之外
其實一切都幾 ok
(我入讀嘅時候仲係2間臨時校舍,未搬入數碼港)

其實我對自己嘅中文程度都幾有信心(哈哈哈,好自大)
尤其係聽同講方面
係完全無問題,
喺社會同工作環境都生存到

作者: JanetCMC    時間: 20-4-9 09:48     標題: 回覆樓主:

弘立2003年創立
至今都有17年
我係最早期嘅產物
所以我真係覺得自己離開咗好耐

我讀咗6年,讀到中學畢業
ISF 由一間小型學校
變到一間大型學校
過程中係有好多野要取捨
同埋感覺上,當年比依家易入得多

印象中,我當年只有 foundation year
仲未有幼稚園

作者: JanetCMC    時間: 20-4-9 09:55     標題: 回覆樓主:

可能大家個角度唔同啦
當年細校,同學同老師甚至校長嘅關係都比較 close

我當年讀書
學校仲要限制唔可以喺學校講廣東話
只可以講英語或普通話
否則會記 behavior report 同通知家長
(我媽咪表示:呢d 咁雞毛蒜皮嘅野,就唔好打電話俾我啦)

作者: cris01    時間: 20-4-9 10:09

JanetCMC 發表於 20-4-9 09:39
ISF 除了貴同遠,中文難之外
其實一切都幾 ok
(我入讀嘅時候仲係2間臨時校舍,未搬入數碼港)

Oh, you were the student yourself? I thought you were the parent. I guess you’re still relatively young, are you on this forum a lot because you have kids yourself now? That’s nice! May I ask how your English level is after ISF? We are a bit concerned and have heard the emphasis on Chinese might be too much and students lack English. The English level difference is quite far vs intl school students. What are your thoughts? :)

作者: JanetCMC    時間: 20-4-9 10:19     標題: 回覆樓主:

因為我做教育界
份人又有少少八掛

我 IB 中英文嘅成績都不太好
(同其他同學相比)
幸好最後都入到自己最想入嘅大學同學科
入到大學係另一個世界

作者: gingercatcat    時間: 20-4-9 10:32

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rat2020 發表於 20-4-9 09:37
其實某程度上我就係感覺唔到間學校有愛,連學校本身都唔支持家長同學生又如何愛學校呢?!以及個人覺得如果喺 ...

我本來都好喜歡ISF, 但我女兒上了Preschool playgroup 後,我發現學校無想像中咁好,校長在處理方法上我好大意見,老師也不太友善。不喜勿插。
作者: Jane1983    時間: 20-4-9 10:48

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咁多間國際學校,總有一間適合自己的教育理念。每個家長要求唔同,每個人經歷亦唔一樣,論壇分享唔可能得一把聲音。
作者: aechan    時間: 20-4-9 10:56

rat2020 發表於 20-4-8 16:43
Isf 其實係少於80% 入到academy,因為係Kindergarden 會不停勸退or deferred kids. 去提升入學率(acedamy).i ...
原來係咁,謝指點
作者: rat2020    時間: 20-4-9 10:59

gingercatcat 發表於 20-4-9 10:32
我本來都好喜歡ISF, 但我女兒上了Preschool playgroup 後,我發現學校無想像中咁好,校長在處理方法上我好 ...

我完全同意你嘅講法~真係感覺自己俾元學費還要比別人虐待咁(唔係話俾咗學費就大晒)但係另外更加要比好多tutors after class ,即係小朋友係生理同心理上都好辛苦!如果你入去讀埋k1真係感受更深!我記得只係夾錯一個唔同顏色嘅髪夾就會發warning letter比家長,但係當佢哋喺公園outdoor activity時見到有個小朋友喺高處跌下頭落地,個老師只係話小事但係個小朋友喊到面都紅晒!跟住喺個report Card到寫個小朋友awareness 好差!你講校長真係感受更加深,我真係好明白你嘅感受!校長曾經講過話冇資源去support細b,所以我都好有疑問,咁做乜要收細B呢?其實我覺得佢哋啲老師就真係淨係識得比壓力學生同埋家長!除此之外,都係靠家長自己幫小朋友外補!

作者: 964000    時間: 20-4-9 12:59

rat2020 發表於 20-4-9 10:59
我完全同意你嘅講法~真係感覺自己俾元學費還要比別人虐待咁(唔係話俾咗學費就大晒)但係另外更加要比好多t ...

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Janet 是Local school中學才轉去ISF的,和local school 比會覺得滿意不奇。但其他家長要決定入K1的角度又不同,尤其ISF kinder主要是以中文為主,也要考慮Y1轉去其他IS的問題。

作者: candybar123    時間: 20-4-9 13:33

964000 發表於 20-4-9 12:59
Janet 是Local school中學才轉去ISF的,和local school 比會覺得滿意不奇。但其他家長要決定入K1的角度又 ...
This is what I hear too. It is stricter and gives more work than other IS but less when compared to local schools. By EDB definition it is a private school and not real international school. I can't speak for everyone but many parents choose IS so that their kids can be educated by more loving teachers and have a lesser workload in lower years.
Recommending kindergarten age kids to get tutoring sounds irresponsible of the school. No wonder they didn't want to take my child who was born in August

作者: kytso    時間: 20-4-10 01:32

rat2020 發表於 20-4-9 10:59
我完全同意你嘅講法~真係感覺自己俾元學費還要比別人虐待咁(唔係話俾咗學費就大晒)但係另外更加要比好多t ...

咁真係好有問題,是校長風格造成的嗎?咁不如讀本地學校好過,起碼學費平一大截。

作者: rat2020    時間: 20-4-10 01:45

kytso 發表於 20-4-10 01:32
咁真係好有問題,是校長風格造成的嗎?咁不如讀本地學校好過,起碼學費平一大截。
...

Tammy ( 校長)認為在她的領導下,所有設施及老師都是最好的!當家長有意見向他反映的時候,校長並不會接受別人的意見而且還會找機會針對你的小孩!所以很多家長都敢怒不敢言!(所以最好有back up先好反映意見)
如果係普通local school 我想大部份家長都會比較satisfied. 首先學費方面就一定唔會這麼高,而且我相信師資方面及處事方針係比較有經驗!相對性價比較高。

作者: gingercatcat    時間: 20-4-10 09:09

rat2020 發表於 20-4-10 01:45
Tammy ( 校長)認為在她的領導下,所有設施及老師都是最好的!當家長有意見向他反映的時候,校長並不會接 ...
我的經驗好簡單,在上playgroup時,他們要小朋友爬高爬低,但家長是不能幫,而老師也只在外圍觀察,我見小朋友跌了下來,哭,老師是不會理會,只有家長急,可能他們覺得是練習一種,但對兩歲小朋友來說,在高處跌下,我會有担心。另外,Tammy 會好嚴厲執行不能駕私家車到學校,以免影響交通。我同意,可惜大細超,D明星仔,有錢佬是可以的,Tammy 還親自迎接,但普通人,就嚴詞警告,老師們也一樣,對有錢人一張臉,笑晒口,普通中產人,好像透明一樣。如果preschool 唔改革,我想不能配合的家長,還是另選他校,反正這不會是happy school.
作者: Jane1983    時間: 20-4-10 09:39

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做得咁核突?咁真係令人唔舒服。

作者: cris01    時間: 20-4-10 10:06

rat2020 發表於 20-4-10 01:45
Tammy ( 校長)認為在她的領導下,所有設施及老師都是最好的!當家長有意見向他反映的時候,校長並不會接 ...

No wonder I heard so many negative comments about Principal Tammy from existing parents...is it true that many of them couldn’t find back up schools so force to stay and once they do, they leave the school immediately? It’s quite a lot of work to keep searching for schools once you are inside.....better double think the offer :(

作者: rat2020    時間: 20-4-10 10:21

gingercatcat 發表於 20-4-10 09:09
我的經驗好簡單,在上playgroup時,他們要小朋友爬高爬低,但家長是不能幫,而老師也只在外圍觀察,我見小 ...

成日放學都發覺我小朋友喺學校整親擦損膝頭手踭,而且都幾嚴重。隻腳又(乳)晒好多達!但當打電話俾學校嘅時候,老師例牌說詞I don’t know !!>再問返我轉頭”會唔會係剛剛工人接佢時仆親呀?”但問題係我自己接佢而且一上返架車就call佢哋!(佢哋迫小朋友咩住書包上條好斜嘅樓梯但係老師係唔會睇佢哋)另外佢哋喺outdoor  activities 會搵家長義工,好多家長義工都見到啲老師唔理啲小朋友安全,係望都唔會望行開左!有個小朋友又係仆親跟住其他小朋友唔知也想去身度如果唔係有家長義工喺度都應該幾大煱!當家長日嘅時候,我問佢我小朋友在學校表現如何,係好似記唔起我小朋友係邊個咁,一日到黑day dreaming !大多數家長收到嘅都係話你小朋友唔concentrate 啦!hea 爆你

上次有見到㗎ROLLS ROYCE長泊正正門口,然之後TAMMY 烚熟E超棚牙沖出泥接!佢哋連hold住兩張debenture的家長都會玩家長!但當你quit左,acedamy admission 又call 返你!好明顯tammy 破壞左academy單生意!
本來想攞埋report card 就走但係要提早通知佢哋,跟住喺report Card出嘅時候同我講因為我小朋友出席不夠不能做assessment 所以沒有report Card!如果係咁咁點解唔早啲同我講要喺最尾report Card出嗰日先同我講?!但之前又話俾你發給我?令到我比多左兩個月學費!我覺得佢哋直情有少少行騙。

另外Isf 一直都搵唔到好嘅老師,比較好嘅老師都會中途離開!因為聽聞佢哋人工係比真國際係低!admin又混亂,又多politic!所以交左學費都唔係有好嘅師資俾你囉!Isf 留唔到人!

作者: 964000    時間: 20-4-10 10:31

rat2020 發表於 20-4-10 01:45
Tammy ( 校長)認為在她的領導下,所有設施及老師都是最好的!當家長有意見向他反映的時候,校長並不會接 ...

教育很難純以性價比論,稔住想「讀IS但又有一定程度的繁體中文和中國文化」的家長,又未必喜歡LS的制度和課程,  但其實ISF整個style和作風都不是IS,自己搞清楚才入,值不值得就見仁見智,和有沒有其他選擇。
但我見只以「中文」一項為唯一主要選校目標的,最後都是轉校的多。

作者: rat2020    時間: 20-4-10 10:43

cris01 發表於 20-4-10 10:06
No wonder I heard so many negative comments about Principal Tammy from existing parents...is it tru ...

i just the lucky one can escape but most of parents hard to get another school offer because their kid eng level can’t reach other IS standard ! and kids seems doing nth in Isf . That’s y their academic is weak to compete with IS kids in interview . Parents believe academy intake 80% student but they deferred many kids or reject some in fact. At this moment  already missed the chance to apply other IS. So Tammy really put kids n parents to knee down to her n beg ! She tell parents in k2 and passed the application period then parents  hv no other way to go !

作者: 964000    時間: 20-4-10 10:46

gingercatcat 發表於 20-4-10 09:09
我的經驗好簡單,在上playgroup時,他們要小朋友爬高爬低,但家長是不能幫,而老師也只在外圍觀察,我見小 ...

「Tammy 會好嚴厲執行不能駕私家車到學校,以免影響交通。我同意,可惜大細超,D明星仔,有錢佬是可以的,Tammy 還親自迎接,但普通人,就嚴詞警告,老師們也一樣,對有錢人一張臉,笑晒口,普通中產人,好像透明一樣。」
這個不能接受太似某國風氣(不喜勿插)。


作者: rat2020    時間: 20-4-10 10:49

964000 發表於 20-4-10 10:31
教育很難純以性價比論,稔住想「讀IS但又有一定程度的繁體中文和中國文化」的家長,又未必喜歡LS的制度和 ...

我諗翻起都恨錯難翻! 之前就係以為佢係一間繁體中文嘅IS,所以就入咗去但發覺事與願違!真係要審慎思考先可以做出決定!我好慶幸可以走得甩!以我自己嘅感受,local school 都唔會咁樣對小朋友同家長! 不過都有少部份家長適合嘅!

以及Isf 不停發債券,已經成為一間學店!唔理咩嘢都收咗先,之後先踢翻你出校!令到小朋友兩頭唔到岸!我真係覺得咁樣嘅教學理念真係好缺德!

作者: cris01    時間: 20-4-10 11:05

gingercatcat 發表於 20-4-10 09:09
我的經驗好簡單,在上playgroup時,他們要小朋友爬高爬低,但家長是不能幫,而老師也只在外圍觀察,我見小 ...

Actually I had the same experience in their playgroup, so I know what you mean. There were a few kids that were more “active” in class and the teacher kept yelling at the kids and the parent also..deep down I felt very bad for them. I can admit the ISF teachers are not very patient...which is one of the reasons I would hold back on the school. If the teachers yell at the kids in front of the parents, I can’t imagine when the parents are not there...in the end, every parent just care to find a caring environment for their child

作者: cris01    時間: 20-4-10 11:15

964000 發表於 20-4-10 10:31
教育很難純以性價比論,稔住想「讀IS但又有一定程度的繁體中文和中國文化」的家長,又未必喜歡LS的制度和 ...

But if it’s only targeting Chinese, isn’t going to local school a better option (Chinese even stronger), then switch to intl school? Since most of the ISF students switch to intl in around grade 3-5 anyway?

作者: 964000    時間: 20-4-10 11:50

cris01 發表於 20-4-10 11:15
But if it’s only targeting Chinese, isn’t going to local school a better option (Chinese even str ...

本帖最後由 964000 於 20-4-11 14:47 編輯

Depends If you think chinese is your ultimate priority for education


作者: gfkwong    時間: 20-4-10 12:42

rat2020 發表於 20-4-10 10:21
成日放學都發覺我小朋友喺學校整親擦損膝頭手踭,而且都幾嚴重。隻腳又(乳)晒好多達!但當打電話俾學校 ...

聽到都覺得好恐怖喎。我自己都多朋友讀ISF不過佢哋讀小學又冇乜聽見有投訴。咁你係咪淨係讀咗K1, 其實小朋友k1成日病冇話唔夠attendance就唔俾report喎,不過如果未讀晒嗰個學期佢就唔俾report。我都好憎校長同老師大細超啲有錢人同埋明星。 如果咁嘅價值觀點樣教啲小朋友。明星都係人,佢哋都會有仔女,佢哋都唔會想啲仔女有特別優待。不過講真如果一間學校係買債券或靠識人就可以入到嘅,都係證明佢係想賺多啲錢。咁你而家入到cdnis 就好啦我諗應該唔會話有大細超嗰個情況。我自己冇報ISF 就係覺得佢太多中文, 好似話早期係七成中文。不過小學係好難考到入去, 要流利國語。

作者: sxd    時間: 20-4-10 12:50

已經聽過很多人投訴話isf的幼稚園唔得,但小女在isf小學又認真讀得幾好,所以來緊細佬報讀幼稚園嘅第一選擇都會系isf,但小女當初系插班year1嘅,未讀過幼稚園,希望幼稚園今年換地點後會有改善。

作者: candybar123    時間: 20-4-10 12:59

sxd 發表於 20-4-10 12:50
已經聽過很多人投訴話isf的幼稚園唔得,但小女在isf小學又認真讀得幾好,所以來緊細佬報讀幼稚園嘅第一選擇 ...
ISF Academy seems to be better- maybe because it is not managed by just one person but by a team and also has a longer history. Our child didn't accepted for Year 1 (my child is small baby- the type Tammy wouldn't like   ). Now I am happy I didn't apply to try again for Year 2.
However, I am also unsure about trying for Foundation Year since many IS take in children from the age of 4 and I don't want to change schools again after a year

作者: 964000    時間: 20-4-10 13:50

gfkwong 發表於 20-4-10 12:42
聽到都覺得好恐怖喎。我自己都多朋友讀ISF不過佢哋讀小學又冇乜聽見有投訴。咁你係咪淨係讀咗K1, 其實小 ...

本帖最後由 964000 於 20-4-10 14:16 編輯

小學PTH會一般對答和聽得明都可以,要有點中文foundation因為初小7成中文。其實ISF都喜歡及收很多維幼的學生,可能維幼這方面更flexible,因為多一點英文。


作者: rat2020    時間: 20-4-10 14:06

gfkwong 發表於 20-4-10 12:42
聽到都覺得好恐怖喎。我自己都多朋友讀ISF不過佢哋讀小學又冇乜聽見有投訴。咁你係咪淨係讀咗K1, 其實小 ...

讀到k2第一個sem,咁我通知左學校話唔會再讀之後,班主任同我個小朋友講你唔會上到去FY,但其他小朋友會去囉淨係得你一個唔去!你會去其他學校㗎啦!

咁我小朋友返嚟同我講返話唔開心老師咁樣同佢講,所以之後我都返幾日又請下假咁!而且我小朋友去完cdnis school tour 之後小朋友話唔鍾意再返Isf!所以我叫佢努力去cdnis interview !好彩之後有offer!如果唔係就真係好徬徨!

特別係升左去K2之後個中文班主任成日都令到小朋友失去自信心同唔開心!開學一個星期就打黎鬧我!話小朋友點解唔可以自己一個完成所有task!要老師提點!我個下真係對呢間學校完全失望,佢哋冇諗過要去教個小朋友,係希望家長教完之後,學校只去assess 小朋友!


作者: sxd    時間: 20-4-10 14:17

好恐怖(emoji)!我想讓細佬學家姐插班fy或者y1,又驚到時太難入唔到,被逼焗住讀幼稚園。

作者: 964000    時間: 20-4-10 14:20

rat2020 發表於 20-4-10 14:06
讀到k2第一個sem,咁我通知左學校話唔會再讀之後,班主任同我個小朋友講你唔會上到去FY,但其他小朋友會去囉 ...

咁你小朋友都好好呢Cdnis收左,應該是你想要嘅野

作者: cris01    時間: 20-4-10 14:53

964000 發表於 20-4-10 11:50
本帖最後由 964000 於 20-4-10 11:52 編輯

If you think chinese is your ultimate priority for educa ...

I agree with you picking a school is not just about “Chinese”. There are so many factors to keep in mind. I’ve heard enough of the academy students keep switching out to intl and complaints about Tammy poorly running the school. I guess the K is just a stepping stone to academy but seems the actual learning and caring is not good enough there especially the kids are at a young age which need more nurturing.. thanks for the info!

作者: rat2020    時間: 20-4-10 14:58

964000 發表於 20-4-10 14:20
咁你小朋友都好好呢Cdnis收左,應該是你想要嘅野

係呀~已經用晒今年嘅運氣(emoji)

作者: gfkwong    時間: 20-4-10 15:12

rat2020 發表於 20-4-10 14:06
讀到k2第一個sem,咁我通知左學校話唔會再讀之後,班主任同我個小朋友講你唔會上到去FY,但其他小朋友會去囉 ...

有時真係睇下同學校夾唔夾。我都有差唔多情況。名幼pn 個班主任日日話我個仔發夢,話咁様上到k2會跟唔上。咁我問佢有咩建議,佢話叫佢多啲做指令,適當時候先講嘢。反而對另一個唔識講嘢嘅同學就狂讚話佢有反應。我個仔仲英文都好流利,ORT可以自己讀到level 6.人居然比佢話發夢追唔上。我最後都係退咗學。另一樣野唔鐘意係我叫其他家長幫我仔影相,因為我仔生日會,得佢一個生日,我要返工唔得嫻接。個班主任話唔得,只可以影自己個小朋友。我估係因為有明星個仔,慳d啦,邊有人特登去影其他人小朋友,有時未必係嗰個明星嘅問題,係個老師諗多咗。

作者: rat2020    時間: 20-4-10 15:46

gfkwong 發表於 20-4-10 15:12
有時真係睇下同學校夾唔夾。我都有差唔多情況。名幼pn 個班主任日日話我個仔發夢,話咁様上到k2會跟唔上。 ...

所以有時候軟件係重要過硬件,但我就發現Isf 個文化係留不住好老師的!我成日覺得啲老師會bully小朋友!佢哋係好鍾意明星啲小朋友(我淨係聽過寶山唔鍾意收明星)!同埋我發現咗個狀況就係佢哋係鍾意同爸爸傾偈多個媽媽!個爸爸一同佢傾偈即刻笑晒!又不停讚個爸爸同個小朋友好叻



作者: 莫失莫忘    時間: 20-4-10 17:48

sxd 發表於 20-4-10 12:50
已經聽過很多人投訴話isf的幼稚園唔得,但小女在isf小學又認真讀得幾好,所以來緊細佬報讀幼稚園嘅第一選擇 ...

我應該都會有你既煩惱,又係老大fy考入去,細既將來都要考慮讀唔讀佢地幼稚園。介唔介意你細既會幾時考?到時再向你取經

作者: 莫失莫忘    時間: 20-4-10 17:59

rat2020 發表於 20-4-8 16:43
Isf 其實係少於80% 入到academy,因為係Kindergarden 會不停勸退or deferred kids. 去提升入學率(acedamy).i ...

請問你小朋友讀既時候大約有幾多人被勸退/ deferred?



作者: rat2020    時間: 20-4-10 18:33

莫失莫忘 發表於 20-4-10 17:59
請問你小朋友讀既時候大約有幾多人被勸退/ deferred?

以我所知k1嘅時候有大約20人離開咗(包括被勸退或者自己選擇離開)
K2大約15人被deffered &10人left)
佢哋大多發現不合適就轉去其他國際學校
因為我哋發現有好多新同學代替舊同學,而且咁岩k2嘅時候新同學嘅書包係改咗新design!

作者: 莫失莫忘    時間: 20-4-10 18:45

rat2020 發表於 20-4-10 18:33
以我所知k1嘅時候有大約20人離開咗(包括被勸退或者自己選擇離開)
K2大約15人被deffered &10人left)
佢哋 ...

謝謝回覆。deferred既意思係要小朋友重讀k2?他們全是細b?

佢地k2多人走都正路,因為佢地學生唔想去academy既或者冇信心考到都一定要搵出路嗎。好似維記k2都會走一堆咁。不過deferred 15個人比例感覺有d多。

同埋你覺得isf preschool有冇優點?

作者: rat2020    時間: 20-4-10 19:10

莫失莫忘 發表於 20-4-10 18:45
謝謝回覆。deferred既意思係要小朋友重讀k2?他們全是細b?

佢地k2多人走都正路,因為佢地學生唔想去acad ...

Deferred 意思係keep住再assess 個小朋友,遲啲先決定俾唔俾offer !

佢係會選擇deferred 或直接reject細b同對tammy 冇誠意嘅人!(呢一點要自己參透)

另外好多小朋友需要一日去兩間學校,例如早上去rmkg or vic下午去Isf .因為pre school academic係需要外力去support !又或者好多tutor !如果唔想小朋友辛苦就真係要認真考慮!

優點:家長呢兩年通常都係忍受搏70%上FY同埋識講普通話

作者: sxd    時間: 20-4-10 19:42

莫失莫忘 發表於 20-4-10 17:48
我應該都會有你既煩惱,又係老大fy考入去,細既將來都要考慮讀唔讀佢地幼稚園。介唔介意你細既會幾時考? ...

細佬今個月先兩歲,不過都要開始準備報名啦。

作者: gingercatcat    時間: 20-4-11 08:36

本帖最後由 gingercatcat 於 20-4-11 08:46 編輯
rat2020 發表於 20-4-10 15:46
所以有時候軟件係重要過硬件,但我就發現Isf 個文化係留不住好老師的!我成日覺得啲老師會bully小朋友!佢 ...

其實如果重視中文多於一切的,咪選ISF, 如果都想小朋友開心受尊重的,( 除非你是特權份子,例如: 小明星,大企業老闆,老外etc) 你會在ISF preschool 得到極不愉快對待。我記得第一次上playgroup, 我個係超細囡,去到門口,因為早咗到,佢要十分鐘前先開門,我早了四十分鐘到,天氣又熱,又找不到地方坐,抱著囡,她不知不覺睡著了。到學校開門,我想進廁所幫她換片和弄醒她,點知Tammy 企門口,大聲喝罵我,說為何咁遲!仲瞓緊?我解釋第一次來,怕塞車,太早到,所以女兒睡了,我會弄醒她。Tammy 完全不理,說: 我不要再見到佢進來時是睡著的!嘩,她2歲都未到,睡下有幾大罪呀?讀她學校,軍訓咩!一D愛心都無,仲要話帶領一間.幼兒學校,想好都難啦!本來這些往事我都不想提,但見有人話Tammy 有問題,我可以話佢200%有問題!不過有人包庇佢都可能㗎,因為ISF 不嬲好黑箱作業。
作者: rat2020    時間: 20-4-11 11:07

gingercatcat 發表於 20-4-11 08:36
其實如果重視中文多於一切的,咪選ISF, 如果都想小朋友開心受尊重的,( 除非你是特權份子,例如: 小明星, ...

Tammy會做這些事情一點也不出奇,就算係笑晒口同家長講嘢,每一句都係有骨!仲記得我第一日返pg我喺門口落車,佢係超大聲沖出嚟講話呢架車係邊個架!我個時冇留意個email話唔準喺門口落車,佢係喺學校裏面沖出嚟,但係嗰時我係早到左根本交通還未擠塞!
我仲記得有位家長問普通話一個字點讀,佢話自己普通話都唔係咁好而家仲保緊習,之後叫副校長教呢個家長,副校普通話真係好好。
另外,tammy 係bachelor of sciences toxicology ,之後先係香港讀返個master of education  !其實好多國際學校嘅老師學歷都比tammy 高!而且老師質素都係內地二三線大學或者文憑!之前新校舍還未有牌照就已經話唔一定要返學,但好彩有疫情所以不用返!而且學校又唔肯公布甲醛情況,因為有家長見到開學前兩星期還在裝修,有些小朋友會嚴重過敏!其實學校真係罔顧小朋友安全

Academy 之前比人投訴啲老師都係無牌!(唔知點解只可上傳photo,不能貼link )

Tammy聽聞係有特別關係先按排入去做校長(聽聞)
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作者: 莫失莫忘    時間: 20-4-11 14:08

rat2020 發表於 20-4-10 19:10
Deferred 意思係keep住再assess 個小朋友,遲啲先決定俾唔俾offer !

佢係會選擇deferred 或直接reject細b ...

謝謝解答

作者: 莫失莫忘    時間: 20-4-11 14:11

sxd 發表於 20-4-10 19:42
細佬今個月先兩歲,不過都要開始準備報名啦。

我老二一歲,下年可能要請教你

另想請問academy在停學期間的安排你滿意嗎?我也問過一位在讀的家長她覺得不錯,也想聽聽你意見。(我大的小朋友是下年度新生)

作者: JanetCMC    時間: 20-4-12 05:49

gingercatcat 發表於 20-4-10 09:09
我的經驗好簡單,在上playgroup時,他們要小朋友爬高爬低,但家長是不能幫,而老師也只在外圍觀察,我見小 ...

幼稚園校長呢個做法令到我有啲驚訝
我當年返 ISF 都係搭 970
或者 ISF / ISF preschool 真的變了

作者: 钧熹    時間: 20-4-12 11:46

其實幼稚園係唔係真係需要咁chur呢?不如多啲帶去戶外玩吓仲好過😄,諗住直升就揀國際學校
作者: sxd    時間: 20-4-13 13:13

莫失莫忘 發表於 20-4-11 14:11
我老二一歲,下年可能要請教你

另想請問academy在停學期間的安排你滿意嗎?我也問過一位在讀的家 ...

其實中學部安排得好過小學部。因為小學部唔係跟課表,初時俾咗好多功課小朋友自修,家長叫苦連天。後尾有改進,每日都有live堂上,運動堂都有埋,功課量適中,暫時都叫ok。

作者: JanetCMC    時間: 20-4-18 23:55     標題: 回覆樓主:

本帖最後由 JanetCMC 於 20-4-18 23:55 編輯

講起一d 權威人士嘅仔女
我諗起我當年讀中學部嘅時候
有個低我兩至三個 grade 嘅女同學
佢係某校董個細女
本身我同佢都好少接觸
係有一次 outing 入camp
佢輸咗遊戲,發脾氣話唔公平
之後大大聲同個老師講
“我同daddy 講要炒左你“
老師回覆 “outing 都不可以講廣東話“

作者: Jane1983    時間: 20-4-19 10:52

回覆 JanetCMC 的帖子

呢d係家教,人之初,都咁醜陋,呢d係父母之過。我唔會話學校乜嘢。
但如果校長、教師會對着富貴家長、明星家長獻媚,而對普通家長隨意責難或者冷待,咁就真係好大問題。教育工作者應該有基本人格和風骨。



作者: aidan08    時間: 20-4-20 23:28

gingercatcat 發表於 20-4-11 08:36
其實如果重視中文多於一切的,咪選ISF, 如果都想小朋友開心受尊重的,( 除非你是特權份子,例如: 小明星, ...
你個經歷十分之恐怖!兩歳BB都咁對待,好難想像咁嘅人可以從事幼教工作。比我都會好似你咁盡量令多D人知道呢個校長的不堪,warn吓其他人。畢竟只係幼稚園,有必要咁嚴厲嗎?你形容得直情似精神有問題。
作者: kytso    時間: 20-4-21 17:59

aidan08 發表於 20-4-20 23:28
你個經歷十分之恐怖!兩歳BB都咁對待,好難想像咁嘅人可以從事幼教工作。比我都會好似你咁盡量令多D人知道 ...

今時今日,仲有呢啲咁嘅態度嘅校長,真係超奇怪。幾十年前就話啫。話晒家長比咁多錢送小朋友讀書,唔係話要態度服務一流,但都唔應該咁樣責罵2歲bb 。校長以為自己係邊個,定係揸住雞毛當令箭。沒有家長投訴她嗎?

作者: sxd    時間: 20-4-22 11:32

我都奇怪點解冇人投訴,我女女系小學部讀書呢幾年,同超人兩個孫都有過同班經驗,從來都冇返屋企話學校或者miss偏心獻媚。如果成個幼稚園都係咁樣,點解唔跟總校長或者校監投訴。

作者: gingercatcat    時間: 20-4-22 12:17

sxd 發表於 20-4-22 11:32
我都奇怪點解冇人投訴,我女女系小學部讀書呢幾年,同超人兩個孫都有過同班經驗,從來都冇返屋企話學校或者 ...
其實有想過投訴,但有人話我知 ISF academy 係ok, 只是ISF preschool 唔好,而有人好像係同ISF academy D高層有關係,一來你投訴,佢哋未必理;二來如果他日你想報ISF academy 會有麻煩。當時我已經唔會讀ISF preschool, 未知將來會唔會想讀ISF academy,  所以多一事不如少一事。
作者: rat2020    時間: 20-4-22 15:04

gingercatcat 發表於 20-4-22 12:17
其實有想過投訴,但有人話我知 ISF academy 係ok, 只是ISF preschool 唔好,而有人好像係同ISF academy D高 ...

其實好多幼稚園家長有投訴過比academy聽,但最後都冇feedback!
有些幼稚園家長因為喜歡中文嘅環境蛋香港類此Isf這種中文學校選擇不多所以都不敢出聲!忍過去便算!

作者: babybao    時間: 20-4-22 21:51

本身我對ISF preschool好有興趣
因幾年前大仔幼稚園有部分同學入咗ISF讀小學,好似都不錯
睇完呢條thread真係要再諗諗
佢依家搬去堅尼地城,小朋友上落車都唔係咁方便
作者: cris01    時間: 20-4-23 10:27

rat2020 發表於 20-4-10 10:43
i just the lucky one can escape but most of parents hard to get another school offer because their  ...

Thank you for the advice and along with other moms here! I also asked many moms outside and they had similar comments about Principal Tammy and the new campus dangerous crossing road situation. While the campus is new, has new equipment, but it’s still a very small campus. We decided to let go of the ISF offer (same with a few other moms around me). We will go for a true intl school, seems those are more well established and don’t need to risk switching schools. I really heard too many ISF students leave only after a few years because they find out ISF is just a local school. We want our child to be happy and enjoy school life. Chinese can always be substituted, there’s a lifetime to learn this language, but only a short time to gain happiness at a young age :)

作者: gingercatcat    時間: 20-4-23 15:24

cris01 發表於 20-4-23 10:27
Thank you for the advice and along with other moms here! I also asked many moms outside and they ha ...
yes, that's why I not consider ISF anymore




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