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標題: 讀ESF英基要補中文、數學嗎？ [打印本頁]
作者: 焦糖媽媽 時間: 19-6-20 21:17 標題: 讀ESF英基要補中文、數學嗎？
如題
作者: Jmachi 時間: 19-6-20 22:54
焦糖媽媽 發表於 19-6-20 21:17 
如題
I guess this apply to all schools. It entirely depends on parents preference..... some kids even in local schools, parents also won’t send them for tutorial. usually international schools they would suggest you to reach out to the teacher first, they can provide support from school (e.g. 1 hour each week for extra class)
作者: 焦糖媽媽 時間: 19-6-20 22:55
Jmachi 發表於 19-6-20 22:54
I guess this apply to all schools. It entirely depends on parents preference..... some kids even in ...
Thanks
作者: poonseelai 時間: 19-6-21 09:17
The ESF students I know, all from HK families, have extra Chinese and Math classes.
作者: 貝珠 時間: 19-6-21 10:05
poonseelai 發表於 19-6-21 09:17
The ESF students I know, all from HK families, have extra Chinese and Math classes.
But not from K1. 樓主is just sending her kid to Esf k1 from this aug.
Take it easy. You can start Chinese tutoring at whatever time you want. But I don’t see the point for math tutoring at even early primary
作者: Radiomama 時間: 19-6-21 18:39
poonseelai 發表於 19-6-21 09:17
The ESF students I know, all from HK families, have extra Chinese and Math classes.
I haven’t sent my boy to tutorial class yet....
作者: hitommycc 時間: 19-6-21 19:04
Radiomama 發表於 19-6-21 18:39
I haven’t sent my boy to tutorial class yet....
Neither did I...
作者: poonseelai 時間: 19-6-21 19:05 標題: 回覆樓主：
本帖最後由 poonseelai 於 19-6-21 19:08 編輯
yours is in RC. The ones I know in QBS, Glenealy, Island School. The one at Island School had extra classes outside for 4 out of the 6 subjects for the DP, and got 40+ at the end
作者: hitommycc 時間: 19-6-21 19:34
poonseelai 發表於 19-6-21 19:05
yours is in RC. The ones I know in QBS, Glenealy, Island School. The one at Island School had extra ...
I can understand if it’s for the IB test, but 4 out of 6 is still too much...
I agree that it all depends on the parents’ preference. I know a kid in HKIS primary who has two private maths tutors. Shocking really.
作者: Radiomama 時間: 19-6-21 20:18
poonseelai 發表於 19-6-21 19:05
yours is in RC. The ones I know in QBS, Glenealy, Island School. The one at Island School had extra ...
本帖最後由 Radiomama 於 19-6-22 09:51 編輯
4 out of 6 subjects... wow
I struggle sometimes but parent should consider the purpose carefully otherwise 事倍功半
作者: mrshoho 時間: 19-6-21 23:34
No, not necessary.
作者: annie133 時間: 19-6-22 07:26
焦糖媽媽 發表於 19-6-20 21:17
如題
中文差不多一定補，數學同writing去到y3/4好多都會開始補。
作者: poonseelai 時間: 19-6-22 09:42 標題: 回覆樓主:
writing?
作者: Radiomama 時間: 19-6-22 10:05
家長在安排子女補習之前，應先考慮：
1）孩子的學習能力
2）成績不理想/想超前的原因
3）上課的學習態度
4）學校的不足
5）在家的支援
人云亦云去補習最可怕，搞不好的話，扼殺了孩子自信、自主學習的機會，特別是小學生。
作者: poonseelai 時間: 19-6-22 10:13 標題: 回覆樓主:
有老師講過有同學因放學後有補習而上課会唔專心，因之後有人教，我孩子有同學就係咁
作者: 焦糖媽媽 時間: 19-6-22 10:18
貝珠 發表於 19-6-21 10:05
But not from K1. 樓主is just sending her kid to Esf k1 from this aug.
Take it easy. You can start ...
Do you think reading Chinese story books at home everyday is good enough? Or really need them to write the words out so that they can remember? I personally was from a chinese traditional school. I don’t really know I know Chinese is because I copied the words a thousand times or I see n read them everyday.
作者: Cara2006 時間: 19-6-22 10:31
Radiomama 發表於 19-6-21 18:39
I haven’t sent my boy to tutorial class yet....
My kids never needed any tutorial lessons.
They both had good IB results.
作者: Radiomama 時間: 19-6-22 10:32
Cara2006 發表於 19-6-22 10:31
My kids never needed any tutorial lessons.
They both had good IB results.
Good
作者: Cara2006 時間: 19-6-22 10:33
poonseelai 發表於 19-6-21 19:05
yours is in RC. The ones I know in QBS, Glenealy, Island School. The one at Island School had extra classes outside for 4 out of the 6 subjects for the DP, and got 40+ at the end
Both my kids also 40+.
So I should be happy because I have saved a lot of money.
作者: Radiomama 時間: 19-6-22 10:36
焦糖媽媽 發表於 19-6-22 10:18
Do you think reading Chinese story books at home everyday is good enough? Or really need them to wr ...
Reading is fun, read read read in primary, no matter in Chinese or English
I also asked my boy to write at home and did 每日一篇 in Y2-3
作者: Cara2006 時間: 19-6-22 10:37
poonseelai 發表於 19-6-22 10:13
有老師講過有同學因放學後有補習而上課会唔專心，因之後有人教，我孩子有同學就係咁
...
I have discussed tutorial lessons with my son when he was in year 12.
He said exactly the same thing: those that he knew had tutors, usually not paid as much attention in class.
He felt that many students did not really need tutors.
作者: 抺茶雪糕 時間: 19-6-22 10:51
If talking about k1,k2, some kids I know (esf) take English and Chinese class outside, but I don’t know any talking maths
作者: lui 時間: 19-6-22 11:19
Cara2006 發表於 19-6-22 10:31
My kids never needed any tutorial lessons.
They both had good IB results.
這是孩子有天份，哪個父母不想呢。去補習的孩子有相當是天分不夠，去補習不是罪。
我一個孩子有天分，一個沒有。沒有哪個就要去補習
作者: lui 時間: 19-6-22 11:21
焦糖媽媽 發表於 19-6-22 10:18
Do you think reading Chinese story books at home everyday is good enough? Or really need them to wr ...
我認為中文除了閲讀，系要寫，可以每天俾小小字佢寫下。
作者: Jane1983 時間: 19-6-22 11:33 標題: 回覆樓主:
而家IS小學生補習，係家長太緊張、錢多，小朋友時間多的產物，我覺得無需要。我女唔係Esf，佢零補習，唔知讀得幾好。到考ib，就係講需要了。
作者: mamaishere 時間: 19-6-22 11:49
lui 發表於 19-6-22 11:19
這是孩子有天份，哪個父母不想呢。去補習的孩子有相當是天分不夠，去補習不是罪。
我一個孩子有天分，一個 ...
孩子吸收能力人人不同，贊成不需外援又有好成績是真的非常幸運，但幸運卻不是人人有。個人覺得中文和數學單靠學校亦要看看學校課程內容是否鬆散或有一定要求。但話時話，IB數學真的很難捉摸，有點摸不著邊際的感覺⋯⋯ 想請教有經驗家長IB數學在沒有正式教計算方式嘅情況下應該如何有效令小孩掌握？我見小孩學concept多，教加減乘除係用原理去學，沒有計算練習題，只有concept運用，看似生活化很容易但其實真的運用起來(例如埋單計錢，把食物分一袋袋，分數加減等等)會處理得非常慢，把原理想一片仍然未能很快應用於計算上。有點怕小孩似懂非懂一直升班上去基礎會不穩固
作者: mamaishere 時間: 19-6-22 11:56
Jane1983 發表於 19-6-22 11:33
而家IS小學生補習，係家長太緊張、錢多，小朋友時間多的產物，我覺得無需要。我女唔係Esf，佢零補習，唔知 ...
都知道你女女學校雖然是IS但課程和LS不相伯仲，學習氣氛和教學方式和IB很不同。如果我小孩在你學校上課我也不會考慮補習，因為淨係靠學校已經有穩固基礎。但如果大部分IB學校如ESF在中文及數學教學要求不高，亦不會有quiz or tests or homework去定期update家長小孩的進度，家長也只好用外援心態去令小孩有適當練習了
作者: lui 時間: 19-6-22 12:07
mamaishere 發表於 19-6-22 11:49
孩子吸收能力人人不同，贊成不需外援又有好成績是真的非常幸運，但幸運卻不是人人有。個人覺得中文和數學 ...
Pm you
作者: Jane1983 時間: 19-6-22 12:23
mamaishere 發表於 19-6-22 11:56
都知道你女女學校雖然是IS但課程和LS不相伯仲，學習氣氛和教學方式和IB很不同。如果我小孩在你學校上課我 ...
唔識講，真係人人睇自己盤數。我覺得小學真係可以比小朋友大d的空間，睇大量的書好過做大量的卷，試各種各樣的體藝活動。上到中學，考ib，争入好大學，佢地的壓力亦大，唔同啦。
作者: Cara2006 時間: 19-6-22 12:59
本帖最後由 Cara2006 於 19-6-22 13:01 編輯
lui 發表於 19-6-22 11:19
去補習的孩子有相當是天分不夠，去補習不是罪。
人地問要唔要補，我只係答我自己仔女冇補。
有話補習有罪？我反而覺得，呢度好多人成日話，"IS 個個補習"，
講到我地話冇補的，好似講大話咁。
唉難怪好多舊 member 唔再留言。
作者: lui 時間: 19-6-22 13:05
Cara2006 發表於 19-6-22 12:59
人地問要唔要補，我只係答我自己仔女冇補。
有話補習有罪？我反而覺得，呢度好多人成日話，"IS 個個補習" ...
我也算舊member .好多人認為補習有罪咁，話人家長怪獸。我冇話你話有罪。但好多時d人唔明，有好多小朋友力有不逮才要補。如有對你不敬、我陪個不是好了。
作者: hitommycc 時間: 19-6-22 13:21
Cara2006 發表於 19-6-22 10:37
I have discussed tutorial lessons with my son when he was in year 12.
He said exactly the same thin ...
我仔班叻的幾個也同樣都無補習，全部self-motivated，專心自學能力又強。另幾個十全大補嘅，未見明顯提高，但又好難講如果唔補是否會更差。
作者: 貝珠 時間: 19-6-22 15:02
我女year one , 學校syllabus 話要識二十以內加減數。佢掌握到我就冇再谷佢學一百以內加減數。咁local k3, 學緊一百以內加減數。但local k3 有人再外補學三個位加減數，話上咗小學冇咁辛苦喎。
我想講，幼稚園初小階段都係睇家長心態
作者: 貝珠 時間: 19-6-22 15:55
焦糖媽媽 發表於 19-6-22 10:18
Do you think reading Chinese story books at home everyday is good enough? Or really need them to wr ...
學中文就係要學筆順，部首。所以都係要寫。但我覺得k2 前認字算了，上year one 才開始寫字。
作者: 焦糖媽媽 時間: 19-6-22 18:02
Radiomama 發表於 19-6-22 10:36
Reading is fun, read read read in primary, no matter in Chinese or English
I also asked my boy to w ...
Did you start reading with your kids when they were very young? When could they start reading by themselves? How did you motivate them like reading? Do they just like reading English books?
作者: Radiomama 時間: 19-6-22 20:13
焦糖媽媽 發表於 19-6-22 18:02
Did you start reading with your kids when they were very young? When could they start reading by th ...
There’s a scheme called ‘Book Start’ in UK. You would receive baby pack by the time your child turns one.
My boy did love reading from toddlerhood and he could read by himself from 3.
Chinese is a bit slow, I keep reading Chinese book to him even he’s teenager.
作者: 焦糖媽媽 時間: 19-6-25 15:43
hitommycc 發表於 19-6-22 13:21
我仔班叻的幾個也同樣都無補習，全部self-motivated，專心自學能力又強。另幾個十全大補嘅，未見明顯提高 ...
Agree!
作者: 焦糖媽媽 時間: 19-6-25 15:44
Radiomama 發表於 19-6-22 20:13
There’s a scheme called ‘Book Start’ in UK. You would receive baby pack by the time your child ...
What’s the “book start” about? Do they still listen to you when they are teenagers?
作者: Radiomama 時間: 19-6-25 16:07
回覆 焦糖媽媽 的帖子
"Book Start" is a reading scheme launched in UK's public library. Nevermind, I just want to say that you could start reading with your kid even when he/she is only a baby.
My boy is a book worm, no matter it's a book, kindle or audio book. I would try to read something he won't choose himself, e.g. books by 杏林子 、龍應台
By the way, the most important thing is ~ no smartphone
作者: miacasa 時間: 19-6-26 00:31
想問下ESF小學，如果學校assessment分4級(beginning, consolidating, meeting, exceeding)，難唔難攞最好的第4級別? 老師通常都好positive，有時唔係好清楚讀得好的介定。希望前輩分享一下。
作者: Radiomama 時間: 19-6-26 18:55
miacasa 發表於 19-6-26 00:31
想問下ESF小學，如果學校assessment分4級(beginning, consolidating, meeting, exceeding)，難唔難攞最好的 ...
其實主要在3 way conference 時要討論及交流；解讀成績表要read between lines, 成績優異的同學真的可以大部份取得exceeding 果個rank; 中游就是大部分meeting expectations, 間中有一兩項consolidating; 下游就跟上述相反囉。
不過最重要是明白孩子的強弱，不應隨便交給補習老師去解決問題。
作者: Osiana 時間: 19-6-28 04:15
焦糖媽媽 發表於 19-6-20 21:17
如題
1. 如果小朋友本身跟唔上學校進度，家長又無時間跟進，唯有請外援。
2. 家長係虎爸虎媽，孩子要補習去做得更好。
3. 家長不安心，或者人補我補，覺得補習先安心。
作者: annie133 時間: 19-6-28 07:29
Osiana 發表於 19-6-28 04:15
睇情況啦。一般有以下情況：
1. 如果小朋友本身跟唔上學校進度，家長又無時間跟進，唯有請外援。
我見3.的多，因為佢地冇textbook功課，家長冇安全感，生怕小朋友在學校學唔識，跟唔到，曾經聽過ESF某十全大補家長講點解y1已經外補maths :「等學校教就遲了！學校教唔識的！」心想，比咁貴學費做咩㗎呢？
作者: Moonlight819 時間: 19-6-28 07:37
annie133 發表於 19-6-28 07:29
我見3.的多，因為佢地冇textbook功課，家長冇安全感，生怕小朋友在學校學唔識，跟唔到，曾經聽過ESF某十全 ...
如果覺得學校那麼差，讀來做什麼？
作者: annie133 時間: 19-6-28 08:14
Moonlight819 發表於 19-6-28 07:37
如果覺得學校那麼差，讀來做什麼？
佢話因為有些東西人人都巳外補學定了，所以老師不會再教得太詳細，佢小朋友只會一頭冒水
作者: Osiana 時間: 19-6-28 09:11
annie133 發表於 19-6-28 08:14
佢話因為有些東西人人都巳外補學定了，所以老師不會再教得太詳細，佢小朋友只會一頭冒水
...
作者: Osiana 時間: 19-6-28 09:13
annie133 發表於 19-6-28 07:29
我見3.的多，因為佢地冇textbook功課，家長冇安全感，生怕小朋友在學校學唔識，跟唔到，曾經聽過ESF某十全 ...
作者: Moonlight819 時間: 19-6-28 09:49
Osiana 發表於 19-6-28 09:13
因為家長有LS 心態，始終相信功課測驗多於遊戲學習
其實有這樣的心態，不如讀返LS吧！
作者: poonseelai 時間: 19-6-28 10:34 標題: 回覆樓主:
見過一個極端例子，孩子小五後由band 1小學轉ib school year 6, 孩子適應無問題，但媽咪唔放手，email老師問教了什麼，老師未立即覆再出email追，再投訴去校長話老師唔覆，同學group project 由亞媽決定題目，一年後走了，唔知轉了去什麼學校
作者: Jane1983 時間: 19-6-28 11:46
poonseelai 發表於 19-6-28 10:34
見過一個極端例子，孩子小五後由band 1小學轉ib school year 6, 孩子適應無問題，但媽咪唔放手，email老師 ...
呢d咁極端的家長，咩學校會配合佢呢？讀邊間會稱心滿意？
作者: cclee0129 時間: 19-6-28 16:46
其他都睇小朋友既學習情況，如果進度跟不上，家長又太忙抽不到時間教小朋友，先會補習
除非家長想小朋友拔尖另外考慮
作者: Osiana 時間: 19-6-28 18:58
Moonlight819 發表於 19-6-28 09:49
其實有這樣的心態，不如讀返LS吧！
作者: Cara2006 時間: 19-6-29 11:23
本帖最後由 Cara2006 於 19-6-29 13:17 編輯
annie133 發表於 19-6-28 08:14
佢話因為有些東西人人都巳外補學定了，所以老師不會再教得太詳細，佢小朋友只會一頭冒水
...
家長不要合理化小朋友學習態度和能力。
其實，係因為，好多小朋友明知有補習，自己上堂不留心。
作者: Jane1983 時間: 19-6-29 11:53
Cara2006 發表於 19-6-29 11:23
家長不要合理化小朋友仔學習態度和能力。
其實，係因為，好多小朋友明知有補習，自己上堂不留心。
本帖最後由 Jane1983 於 19-6-29 11:54 編輯
係呀！讀書最緊要心到。心唔到，一味錢到，係事倍而功半。
作者: Mrspan 時間: 19-6-30 18:29
annie133 發表於 19-6-28 08:14
佢話因為有些東西人人都巳外補學定了，所以老師不會再教得太詳細，佢小朋友只會一頭冒水
...
我朋友女兒esf year 3, 佢地大半班都補習...
跟據佢講，可能因為大部分人都補習拉高左standard, 老師會教快左, &覺得跟唔到（冇補)果Dbelow standard
作者: annie133 時間: 19-6-30 18:56
Mrspan 發表於 19-6-30 18:29
我朋友女兒esf year 3, 佢地大半班都補習...
跟據佢講，可能因為大部分人都補習拉高左standard, 老師會教 ...
朋友就係咁講，佢話唔補定，小朋信心都受影響
作者: poonseelai 時間: 19-6-30 20:09
Mrspan 發表於 19-6-30 18:29
我朋友女兒esf year 3, 佢地大半班都補習...
跟據佢講，可能因為大部分人都補習拉高左standard, 老師會教 ...
越低年级風氣越盛
作者: evacalbee 時間: 19-7-2 14:55
Mrspan 發表於 19-6-30 18:29
我朋友女兒esf year 3, 佢地大半班都補習...
跟據佢講，可能因為大部分人都補習拉高左standard, 老師會教 ...
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越低年级風氣越盛
作者: Fairytale123 時間: 19-7-7 02:18 標題: 回覆樓主：
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其實讀ESF係幾好的，中文（小學已分三個程度）及數學（大部中學已分三個set），你想自己仔女讀高啲set，就可自己教或補習或學公x等。
以數學為例，分三個set, 之後考不同程度的IGCSE。
Set 1: Add math 加 extended math ,即兩科
Set 2: Extended Math
Set 3: Core Math (最高只可考取C grade)
學生在自己的組別，都係great, fantastic, excellent. 大家開心(emoji)
其實，就算不補習，亦不代表學生沒有參加一些外國的online course, 家長教下做練習，之類。各師各法，各取所需。
作者: deco99 時間: 19-7-7 09:23
抺茶雪糕 發表於 19-6-22 10:51
If talking about k1,k2, some kids I know (esf) take English and Chinese class outside, but I don’t ...
I know a kid from wks K2 who is taking math class
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