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標題: Kingston, Anfield, CAIS, 同Think，呢幾間點樣？邊間好點？ [打印本頁]
作者: gracelan 時間: 18-9-28 12:50 標題: Kingston, Anfield, CAIS, 同Think，呢幾間點樣？邊間好點？
在考慮呢幾間的Y1, Kingston, Anfield, CAIS, 同Think，有唔家長朋友，b點意見。呢幾間點樣？邊間好點？Thanks！
作者: columbae 時間: 18-9-28 16:31
gracelan 發表於 18-9-28 12:50 
在考慮呢幾間的Y1, Kingston, Anfield, CAIS, 同Think，有唔家長朋友，b點意見。呢幾間點樣？邊間好點？Th ...
每間學制都唔同，睇你要求d咩
作者: swarovski2011 時間: 18-9-30 18:48
gracelan 發表於 18-9-28 12:50
在考慮呢幾間的Y1, Kingston, Anfield, CAIS, 同Think，有唔家長朋友，b點意見。呢幾間點樣？邊間好點？Th ...
好少人講Kingston, 想知下小學怎樣？小朋友英文係咪都Native架？
作者: 964000 時間: 18-10-1 15:53
swarovski2011 發表於 18-9-30 18:48
好少人講Kingston, 想知下小學怎樣？小朋友英文係咪都Native架？
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作者: swarovski2011 時間: 18-10-1 15:56
964000 發表於 18-10-1 15:53
Kingston初小是不錯，但高小，人人好多人走，士氣一般。
請問知道是什麼原因嗎？
作者: columbae 時間: 18-10-1 19:29
swarovski2011 發表於 18-10-1 15:56
請問知道是什麼原因嗎？
升ICHK太遠喇
作者: swarovski2011 時間: 18-10-1 19:44
columbae 發表於 18-10-1 19:29
升ICHK太遠喇
所以要轉就最好year 4轉走？其實Kingston 的學生易轉走嗎？
作者: 964000 時間: 18-10-1 21:03
swarovski2011 發表於 18-10-1 19:44
所以要轉就最好year 4轉走？其實Kingston 的學生易轉走嗎？
總有很多人轉到，亦有人轉不走...
作者: swarovski2011 時間: 18-10-1 21:33
964000 發表於 18-10-1 21:03
總有很多人轉到，亦有人轉不走...
請問Kingston 是bilingual school, English speaking 係咪都好fluent and native 架？
作者: gracelan 時間: 18-10-2 11:00
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主要想以後出國，所有走IS路線，呢幾間就比較平民點。我知CAIS係Alberta, Think係 IB。 但無知邊個口碑好點？
作者: gracelan 時間: 18-10-2 11:05
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係呀，好少講，我都係想知，我想知學校氛圍，老師對學生點樣，小朋友返的開唔開心
作者: columbae 時間: 18-10-2 11:11
gracelan 發表於 18-10-2 11:00
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主要想以後出國，所有走IS路線，呢幾間就比較平民點。我知CAIS係Alberta, Think係 I ...
Kingston學費比其他3間貴
作者: swarovski2011 時間: 18-10-2 11:32
columbae 發表於 18-10-2 11:11
Kingston學費比其他3間貴
CAIS 貴啲喎
作者: minimirror 時間: 18-10-2 13:34
swarovski2011 發表於 18-10-2 11:32
CAIS 貴啲喎
Kingston is the most expensive here.
- 120k no refund
- monthly tuition is 13k
- school bus service is expensive
- lunch around 2k per month
I compare cais and Kingston tuition fee. Cais is cheaper. Even though I paid 120k for keeping my spot for my kid, cais is still cheaper than Kingston for more than 100k ! ( assume study until G6)
作者: swarovski2011 時間: 18-10-2 15:42
minimirror 發表於 18-10-2 13:34
Kingston is the most expensive here.
- 120k no refund
- monthly tuition is 13k
CAIS school bus and lunch are cheaper? I have no information. But I also concern about their Alberta curriculum and teachers quality (esp recent negative news)
作者: swarovski2011 時間: 18-10-2 15:46
minimirror 發表於 18-10-2 13:34
Kingston is the most expensive here.
- 120k no refund
- monthly tuition is 13k
And CAIS also need to purchase 560k debenture
作者: minimirror 時間: 18-10-2 15:47
swarovski2011 發表於 18-10-2 15:42
CAIS school bus and lunch are cheaper? I have no information. But I also concern about their Albert ...
when I calculate the school fee, I didn't include school bus and lunch.
you can find the fee on their website.
cais debenture is refundable with 1% handling fee.
yea AP is more popular in north America. us and Canada. teacher quality, I have no idea. it said half of the teacher resigned ? but it doesn't mean their quality is bad....
作者: minimirror 時間: 18-10-2 15:48
swarovski2011 發表於 18-10-2 15:46
And CAIS also need to purchase 560k debenture
at the end I can have it back with 1% deducted.
so i think overall it is not more expansive than Kingston
作者: babyjip 時間: 18-10-2 16:08 標題: 回覆樓主
Also depends on your expectation on Chinese curriculum.
作者: columbae 時間: 18-10-2 16:11
babyjip 發表於 18-10-2 16:08
Also depends on your expectation on Chinese curriculum.
4間都有中文讀用繁體
作者: gracelan 時間: 18-10-3 10:58
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讀IS預左中文唔會太好，唔知邊間會深點？
作者: gracelan 時間: 18-10-3 11:01
有媽媽群可以加咩？
作者: gracelan 時間: 18-10-3 11:14
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如果想中學轉去ESF, 邊間好點？
作者: columbae 時間: 18-10-3 11:51
gracelan 發表於 18-10-3 10:58
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讀IS預左中文唔會太好，唔知邊間會深點？
think 小學有學生入到出名既local中學，估計中文程度唔差
作者: 964000 時間: 18-10-3 13:30
gracelan 發表於 18-10-3 11:14
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如果想中學轉去ESF, 邊間好點？
Anfield
作者: 貝珠 時間: 18-10-3 13:37
gracelan 發表於 18-10-3 11:14
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如果想中學轉去ESF, 邊間好點？
冇分别. esf admission in secondary is also based on catchment and random number. I don't think there is one school better than others in terms of entering esf
作者: columbae 時間: 18-10-3 14:25
貝珠 發表於 18-10-3 13:37
冇分别. esf admission in secondary is also based on catchment and random number. I don't think ther ...
no assessment is required for secondary school admission?
作者: 貝珠 時間: 18-10-3 14:42
columbae 發表於 18-10-3 14:25
no assessment is required for secondary school admission?
there is assessment but I think most IS students will pass. esf always has no preference in particular school, as long as students pass the baseline of the assessment, it is all about luck and catchment
作者: gracelan 時間: 18-10-4 12:59
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可以選擇不交56w，而選擇每年2.75w
作者: swarovski2011 時間: 18-10-4 23:11
gracelan 發表於 18-10-4 12:59
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可以選擇不交56w，而選擇每年2.75w
我誤會了一定要買debenture
咁CAIS 又真係平啲喎......
作者: elainL 時間: 18-10-9 15:26
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cAIS 好似走左好多老師.....有management issue ？
作者: Jumboshrimp 時間: 18-10-9 16:52
Kingston is a bilingual school with one mandarin and one English teacher at the same time during the class. So I guess you don't need to worry whether the kids are fluent in English. Kids usually talk in English rather than Mandarin.
I'm pretty satisfied with the 'software' provided by the school. It's a small school so teachers and staff know my kid very well. Teachers are all experienced. Turnover rate is low; most of them have been here for 10-15 years. It's the first kindy having IB program in HK and its Chinese level is up to my standard, at least...
As for hardware, it's a small school so don't expect too much =p . Having said that, the size is already good for small kids.
My kid is going to its primary next year. Most of the parents I know decide to stay. Hopefully my kid would keep up his Chinese level.
The biggest concern parents have is that ICHK is really far away.That means we may need to find a new secondary after kids graduated from Kingston primary. It is however, not a really big issue for me at this moment. By the time he's at year 6, there should be lots of choices available...
作者: Jumboshrimp 時間: 18-10-9 16:55
gracelan 發表於 18-10-3 11:14
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如果想中學轉去ESF, 邊間好點？
Anfield is not having any privilege anymore... I know some who are at Anfield kindergarten don't even have a chance for ESF elementary interview....
作者: Monstereasy 時間: 18-10-9 21:09
elainL 發表於 18-10-9 15:26
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cAIS 好似走左好多老師.....有management issue ？
老師已經請返晒，經過之前PA努力爭取，校董會改善左好多，積極同家長溝通，亦期望家長同學校一齊去加強老師士氣。
作者: elainL 時間: 18-10-10 23:03
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May I know what actually happened that cause so many teacher left the school ie CAIS ?
作者: swarovski2011 時間: 18-10-11 09:01
Jumboshrimp 發表於 18-10-9 16:52
Kingston is a bilingual school with one mandarin and one English teacher at the same time during the ...
Are you Kingston’s parents? May I ask what the differences between IS and bilingual kindergarten are? I am thinking if I go to IS ultimately(say Reception or year 1), should I switch my son to Kingston now (插班k1) to increase the chance? (my son is now studying in local bilingual school)
作者: 964000 時間: 18-10-11 09:24
swarovski2011 發表於 18-10-11 09:01
Are you Kingston’s parents? May I ask what the differences between IS and bilingual kindergarten a ...
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If you target IS and you are from local family, I recommend you to switch to IS k1 instead ofstaying in local bilingual kinder.
作者: swarovski2011 時間: 18-10-11 10:09
964000 發表於 18-10-11 09:24
If you target IS and you are from local family, I recommend you to switch to IS k1 instead of stay ...
In terms of teacher vs student ratio, it’s really different from local. Suppose student can have more chance to speak English if my son will grab the chance. Just think all are from hk or China families, can most of children speak English well? Of course, most can speak English well, it must be a good peer influence
作者: mandy_ng207 時間: 18-10-11 11:52
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I think it's the curriculum and teachers in an IS kinder that makes the difference. Also, there are ethnic Chinese kids who do prefer to speak English rather than Cantonese / Mandarin in an IS kinder. So you can imagine how strong the immersion is. (I am not saying this is good but this actually happened, and it's not occasional...)
作者: swarovski2011 時間: 18-10-11 11:54
mandy_ng207 發表於 18-10-11 11:52
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I think it's the curriculum and teachers in an IS kinder that makes the d ...
Are you Kingston’s parents?
作者: swarovski2011 時間: 18-10-11 11:57
mandy_ng207 發表於 18-10-11 11:52
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I think it's the curriculum and teachers in an IS kinder that makes the d ...
I have this expectation but just a bit worry and still thinking
作者: mandy_ng207 時間: 18-10-11 11:59
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Sorry I am not Kingston's parents. My son is currently in an IS kinder and thus have this observation.
作者: Jumboshrimp 時間: 18-10-11 16:34
swarovski2011 發表於 18-10-11 09:01
Are you Kingston’s parents? May I ask what the differences between IS and bilingual kindergarten a ...
Just to let you know that kingston is asking for a non refundable levy at entry of k1. I forgot how much they charge. For playgroup and N, they charge $100K.
So if you are not really keen on Kingston and not planning to go to K2 , may be you need to consider about the levy.
And yes my kid is at Kingston
作者: swarovski2011 時間: 18-10-11 17:27
Jumboshrimp 發表於 18-10-11 16:34
I assume a bilingual kindergarten is a local kindergarten?... if you want your kid going to internat ...
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Yes, my school is local bilingual school. Kingston Levy is $50k. I applied some IS reception classes recently but not sure if we can get offer finally. That’s why we are still thinking if we should switch to Kingston K1 now.
Can you tell how k2’s English proficiency is? Wanna know their competitiveness to interview the other IS primary schools. Did you try to apply others?
Honestly, I would like to try the other primary with better student mix but all depends on their ability and luck.
Thanks for your suggestions
作者: Monstereasy 時間: 18-10-11 22:45
elainL 發表於 18-10-10 23:03
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May I know what actually happened that cause so many teacher left the schoo ...
上年經歷左學校搬遷，小校變大校，管理層改變，head of school 退休等事件。
教師離開各有原因，但前管理層和教師之間溝通出現問題，相信亦係其中一條導火線。
新任管理層極積改善溝通，相信情況會改善。
作者: Jumboshrimp 時間: 18-10-12 13:31
swarovski2011 發表於 18-10-11 17:27
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Yes, my school is local bilingual school. Kingst ...
.... ic. the good thing is Kingston is through train which means you don't need to worry much about primary school.
Can you tell how k2’s English proficiency is?
.... kids usually speak in English... so you don't need to worry much about English proficiency
Wanna know their competitiveness to interview the other IS primary schools. Did you try to apply others?
... I didnt' apply other school because I will let my kid going to its primary. I heard many of those who do not intend to go to to Kingston primary got offers from many other IS such as RC, ISF. But most decide to stay because parents at Kingston usually have high expectation on Chinese and want and we don't have alot of choices out there. Kingston primary and kindy are bilingual and has one mandarin and one English teacher at the classroom the same time.
Honestly, I would like to try the other primary with better student mix but all depends on their ability and luck.
.... if you better student mix, try NAIS, ISF and ESF at HK island ( not sure which catchment you are in though)
Thanks for your suggestions
作者: minimirror 時間: 18-10-12 13:45
Jumboshrimp 發表於 18-10-12 13:31
Yes, my school is local bilingual school. Kingston Levy is $50k. I applied some IS reception classes ...
So agree on why parents wanna stay at Kingston because of Chinese love
Kingston Primary is small and do not have fancy facilities like cafeteria, indoor gym and drama room. However, it has a well organised teaching system. Class size is small so teachers are able to see what’s really going on with kids. Their Chinese program is like pinyin based. It is a loving school. Kids there feel being cared and loved. I think for young kids this is quite important.
作者: chocotung 時間: 18-10-13 00:05
Jumboshrimp 發表於 18-10-11 16:34
I assume a bilingual kindergarten is a local kindergarten?... if you want your kid going to internat ...
In this sense I don’t consider Kingston a “true” IS though it’s a happy school with caring teachers.
作者: 964000 時間: 18-10-13 00:32
chocotung 發表於 18-10-13 00:05
My friend’s girl is now at Kingston k2, majority of her classmates are native Mandarin speakers fro ...
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作者: hitommycc 時間: 18-10-13 02:31
chocotung 發表於 18-10-13 00:05
My friend’s girl is now at Kingston k2, majority of her classmates are native Mandarin speakers fro ...
My sister’s boy was once in Kingston and she gave the same feedback. They have a strong campus language environment of Mandarin. She thought it a great advantage since she wanna send her kid to ISF.
作者: iloveskp 時間: 18-10-13 08:51
swarovski2011 發表於 18-10-11 17:27
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Yes, my school is local bilingual school. Kingst ...
My kid studied at Kingston, I can say teachers are caring about kids and I love the teacher : student ratio is small compared with other IS.
Chinese is very strong and they teach traditional Chinese.
But I observed from last 2 years there are lot of wealthy mainland China students and they all are native mandarin speakers. Lot of local and Chinese students but not a good student mix.
I’m impressed all the teachers can remember my kid name within first week at school. They are very friendly.
作者: iloveskp 時間: 18-10-13 08:56
iloveskp 發表於 18-10-13 08:51
My kid studied at Kingston, I can say teachers are caring about kids and I love the teacher : stude ...
I’m not sure if you got K1 Kingston offer. My thought is if you aim at IS rather than local kindergarten. And you think Chinese is important You can have bilingual environment at Kingston.
If you want students mix, it may not be your choice.
作者: minimirror 時間: 18-10-13 08:57
chocotung 發表於 18-10-13 00:05
My friend’s girl is now at Kingston k2, majority of her classmates are native Mandarin speakers fro ...
Same as my son
When we was k2 , he was the only one who could not speak mandarin. My son didn’t feel left out at all. He spoke English with them and they communicated without any problem.
He still can’t speak but his mandarin improved a lot during k2 (3 years old class ) and he understands some phases in mandarin.
I struggled that if I should let him stay because Kingston requires good level of Both languages. My son only speaks English. If he can’t catch up with Chinese level, I may have to apply other schools.
Honestly I think it is depending on what parents want. Kingston is an IS school that strongly promote Both languages.
Whether it is or true IS, you may do a site visit then you would know.
作者: chocotung 時間: 18-10-13 09:37
iloveskp 發表於 18-10-13 08:51
My kid studied at Kingston, I can say teachers are caring about kids and I love the teacher : stude ...
作者: minimirror 時間: 18-10-13 10:04
chocotung 發表於 18-10-13 09:37
Apart from languages it’s also about cultural mix. That’s what I think Kingston can’t give as the ...
Cultural mix ? I think about that too , but Many IS has many Chinese too. I saw some western kids in primary. It is difficult for school to have more western students because of its Chinese level. That’s make sense.
Actually I find Kingston setting quite similar to Canadian elementary school. Up to now, my son didn’t attend any fancy birthday party. Parents are humble and nice.
I think America International School has well cultural mix. Many IS has wealthy mainlanders, not just Kingston. I believe we cannot avoid them.
If one who is not so concern about Chinese learning, Kingston definitely not a good choice.
作者: iloveskp 時間: 18-10-13 10:34
minimirror 發表於 18-10-13 10:04
Cultural mix ? I think about that too , but Many IS has many Chinese too. I saw some western kids i ...
Agreed. I found Kingston communication all in bilingual language. Many learning opportunities for Chinese. It’s a happy school unlike local kindergarten with lot of homework.
But if parents aim on cultural differences or student mix, it’s not your cup of tea. Also there is no secondary school back up unless you are okay to go to sha Tou Kok.
Now we have lot of choices with other new IS opened.
作者: minimirror 時間: 18-10-13 10:45
iloveskp 發表於 18-10-13 10:34
Agreed. I found Kingston communication all in bilingual language. Many learning opportunities for ...
本帖最後由 minimirror 於 18-10-13 10:49 編輯
Yes but I probably stay because it is so hard to find a school with small class size, experienced teachers and strong Chinese IS.
Yew Chung, ISF and CIS perhaps ?I am not sure about class size. I prefer small for young children. Teachers can find their problems and it is easier to correct their problems when they are still little.
作者: Jumboshrimp 時間: 18-10-13 12:58
my kid is at K2 pm class. I spot that half of the classmates are hongers and half are from mainland China. The ratio is higher than the time when my kid was a nursery class. that time it was around 70% vs 30%. The campus language, at least , for my kid is English. When he interacts with kid whose mother tongue is Canto, he speaks English; when he talks with kid whose mother tongue is mandarin, he changes to mandarin, or sometimes English. Teachers told me that my son is not fluent in mandarin so he has difficult time explaining himself, especially at show and tell mandarin session. so most of the time he chooses to talk with the English teacher.
作者: Jumboshrimp 時間: 18-10-13 13:19
本帖最後由 Jumboshrimp 於 18-10-13 13:26 編輯
Kingston has exactly what I want. I want my kid to have strong Chinese level in traditional Chinese. But at the same time, I don't want to send him to local school because I suffered from local school when I was at his age. Really there's not much choice for me if I want proficiency in Chinese. ISF is too far from my home. CIS? forget about it. no way my kid can get in... VSA is too far as well....
of course there are down side of Kingston such as Sha Tou Kok secondary, small campus etc....
so for me Kingston is more like a school in between local school and international. It's not an truly 'guai lo' IS which gives too little exposure of Chinese; on the other hand, it's not like local school that is pushy and focus too much on academic.
I mean different parents want different things. Some love big campus, some love through train, some prefer students from all around the world; some prefer international exposure. I think that's no right and wrong but the choice of parents.
作者: elainL 時間: 18-10-13 17:19
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Thanks
作者: mandy_ng207 時間: 18-10-13 22:56
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I’m just curious - does a k2 student in Kingston speak complete sentences and do conversations in both English and Mandarin? If just capable of doing that in one language only, which language is that? Thanks~
作者: Jumboshrimp 時間: 18-10-14 11:25
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I’m just curious - does a k2 student in Kingston speak complete sentences ...
I remember last year when my kid was at k1, he needed to answer and reply in complete sentence both in mandarin and English.
作者: Jumboshrimp 時間: 18-10-14 11:34
mandy_ng207 發表於 18-10-13 22:56
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I’m just curious - does a k2 student in Kingston speak complete sentences ...
As for classroom conversation , it’s call for students which language they want to use, either mandarin or English
My kid prefers English
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