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作者: Sacrebleu    時間: 17-1-12 12:34     標題: ESF Y1 random no. 既迷思

唔知一名二運三風水係咪真嘅呢?打咗去學校個random Number係190. 咁即係希望第二啲學校有Offer啦!
作者: Moonlight819    時間: 17-1-12 12:59

你是否沒有priority? 我囝仔是2x

作者: 貝珠    時間: 17-1-12 13:09

Moonlight819 發表於 17-1-12 12:59
你是否沒有priority? 我囝仔是2x

佢地會答?幾時先可以問?

作者: Moonlight819    時間: 17-1-12 13:14

貝珠 發表於 17-1-12 13:09
佢地會答?幾時先可以問?

可打去學校問。

作者: Sacrebleu    時間: 17-1-12 13:58

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有.  係ESF kindie 讀緊.  
作者: Sacrebleu    時間: 17-1-12 14:02

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你2x??  你係咪有interview 但係在reserve list?  通常random no. 係收生人數打後開始計算...即是如收共150人, 你2X, 即係其實係17X.  可能有機
作者: Moonlight819    時間: 17-1-12 14:12

Sacrebleu 發表於 17-1-12 14:02
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你2x??  你係咪有interview 但係在reserve list?  通常random no. 係收生人數打 ...

我囝仔也在ESF kindy讀緊,但在reserved list,老公打去問他們說排2x,你呢?

作者: Sacrebleu    時間: 17-1-12 14:41

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Please see my reply above....mine is 19x.
作者: little-pig-pig    時間: 17-1-12 15:05

Sacrebleu 發表於 17-1-12 14:41
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Please see my reply above....mine is 19x.

唔係想潑冷水,但我聽校長講SJS今年有190個applications,即係你仔仔個random number係好後,你一定要搵定後路呀

作者: arc1230    時間: 17-1-12 15:11

Sacrebleu 發表於 17-1-12 12:34
唔知一名二運三風水係咪真嘅呢?打咗去學校個random Number係190. 咁即係希望第二啲學校有Offer啦! ...
請問打去邊度問. 如果報SJS要打返去SJS? 謝謝.
作者: Mwong818    時間: 17-1-12 15:28

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我申請BHS, 但只有waiting list, 是否直接打電話到學校問waiting list 號碼定只有reserve 才有號碼?謝謝回䨱。
作者: Moonlight819    時間: 17-1-12 15:33

Mwong818 發表於 17-1-12 15:28
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我申請BHS, 但只有waiting list, 是否直接打電話到學校問waiting list 號碼定只 ...

因我的是reserved list, 不知道waiting list同不同,你可以打去學校問問!

作者: Petitechien    時間: 17-1-12 15:37     標題: 回覆:Sacrebleu 的帖子

Same here. Join esf kinder in K2. I am 100




作者: Petitechien    時間: 17-1-12 15:38     標題: 回覆:Sacrebleu 的帖子

So sad😭😭😭😭no hope at all




作者: YYNGSUKI    時間: 17-1-12 15:40

是一人有一個號碼的,所謂reserve list, or waiting list 都係收生人數後順落的次序
作者: Petitechien    時間: 17-1-12 15:41     標題: 引用:是一人有一個號碼的,所謂reserve+list,+or

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是一人有一個號碼的,所謂reserve list, or waiting list 都係收生人數後順落的次序 ...
U r right.




作者: arc1230    時間: 17-1-12 16:14

問咗, 佢話要send email去問
作者: HC-Mum    時間: 17-1-12 16:18

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請問樓主是apply 哪間esf primary?
作者: 7399    時間: 17-1-12 18:48

如果有interview機會丶又唔係reserved list,係唔係好大機會收?

作者: AJW2010    時間: 17-1-12 19:24     標題: 引用:回覆+Moonlight819+的帖子 有.++係ESF+kin

原帖由 Sacrebleu 於 17-01-12 發表
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有.  係ESF kindie 讀緊.
Kindie 讀緊都190, 請問樓主申請邊間?




作者: hillywind    時間: 17-1-12 19:34

Sacrebleu 發表於 17-1-12 14:41
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Please see my reply above....mine is 19x.

冇意思想知道你係總人數排19x,即係如果收150,你排reserve list嘅4x?

作者: FattyDaddy    時間: 17-1-12 21:53

That's not how the random number works. Applicants are first sorted by their priority group, and then by the random number they have drawn, so the number is only used for prioritizing within a particular group.


Siblings have priority over ESF kindergarten pupils, and ESF kindergarten pupils have priority over general applicants. So for example, a kindergarten pupil with number 10 would come before another kindergarten pupil with number 50, but would be behind a sibling with number 100.
作者: Sacrebleu    時間: 17-1-12 22:52

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Yes that's correct.

作者: Sacrebleu    時間: 17-1-12 22:53

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Yes, if the interview letter doesn't say you are on reserve list.

作者: Sacrebleu    時間: 17-1-12 22:54

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You are right.  That's why I said no chance unless there are 40 odds applicants withdrawing.  

作者: workmama    時間: 17-1-12 23:38

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可以打去學校問𠺢!
作者: HC-Mum    時間: 17-1-13 04:45

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It means that unless I know the total no. of applicants with higher priority than me, otherwise even I know my random no. from school, it can't tell exactly wherre am I in the queue?Will it be more clear about my position after the result has been  released?So the school could tell me how many students are actually ahead of me?

Thanks for your information FattyDaddy!

作者: HC-Mum    時間: 17-1-13 04:46

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May I know if you could be granted an interview chance in this stage? Thanks
作者: FattyDaddy    時間: 17-1-13 06:01

HC-Mum 發表於 17-1-13 04:45
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It means that unless I know the total no. of applicants with higher priority ...
Yes, just knowing the random number means very little, it is only meaningful within the same priority group, so if your child gets allocated a bad number, he/she is behind others in the same group, but still ahead of all the children in the lower priority groups.
作者: hillywind    時間: 17-1-13 15:24

Sacrebleu 發表於 17-1-12 22:52
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Yes that's correct.

Do you have interview with reserved list?
There's a numbering for the reserved list, I think it's different from the whole applicants' numbering.

作者: Sacrebleu    時間: 17-1-14 23:38

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Yes I have got an interview as most of the exitsting ESF kindie students did but some of us are on the reserve list. The VP has told us explicitly that if the no. Is around 150-160ish then probably ok, if it's 190+ then probably need to look at other schools.
作者: Sacrebleu    時間: 17-1-14 23:50

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That's not correct. The priorities are assigned during application stage. That's why most ESF kids get an interview and  other kids from other kindies have less a chance. Like I said the VP had explained that the school offered 150 places, they would interview 200 kids, around 10 maybe has NR, then down the line places would be given to those with siblings (that's why their interview letter doesnt state they are on a reserve list). Then all the others who got an interview has a random no. And you can do the sums yourself. Even 10% for some reasons dont pass the interviews or not taking the offer. My no. 190 is not looking good. But then who knows....
作者: FattyDaddy    時間: 17-1-15 06:04

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Sacrebleu 發表於 17-1-14 23:50
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That's not correct. The priorities are assigned during application stage. That's why most ESF kids get an interview and  other kids from other kindies have less a chance ...

That's what I mean, ESF kindergarten children are in a higher priority group than general applicants from other non-ESF kindergartens, so an ESF kindergarten child could have a bad number but is still in front of a general applicant with a good number.

Of course, a general applicant with a bad number is the worst case.


作者: 2pmshow    時間: 17-1-16 15:59

FattyDaddy 發表於 17-1-15 06:04
That's what I mean, ESF kindergarten children are in a higher priority group than general applicant ...

今日終於interview完啦,2月16日就知結果,終於鬆一口氣

作者: 2pmshow    時間: 17-1-16 16:02

2pmshow 發表於 17-1-16 15:59
今日終於interview完啦,2月16日就知結果,終於鬆一口氣

我地個group約8人,通常都係父母alumni 而小朋友係esf kinder,所以應該有2樣priority


作者: happyfleet    時間: 17-1-16 16:10     標題: 引用:Quote:2pmshow+發表於+17-1-16+15:59+ 今日

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我地個group約8人,通常都係父母alumni 而小朋友係esf kinder,所以應該有2樣priority

...
講問interview父母問什麼問題?謝。




作者: Cherry2012    時間: 17-1-16 17:59

2pmshow 發表於 17-1-16 16:02
我地個group約8人,通常都係父母alumni 而小朋友係esf kinder,所以應該有2樣priority

...

小朋友同家長大约分别問什么問題?可以提點吓,thanks!

作者: 2pmshow    時間: 17-1-17 09:10

happyfleet 發表於 17-1-16 16:10
講問interview父母問什麼問題?謝。

為公平起見,內容就唔好講啦,不過其實都幾casual, 但真係要做下準備,小朋友真的in 足一小時,大部分家長都傾到15至20分鐘,由vice principal 接見,之後再有一個school tour

作者: c200    時間: 17-1-17 11:44

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想當年副校長見了我同我太太只是5mins,
佢問我個小朋友優點同決點,係屋企同Holiday鍾意做乜,其實見副校just a causal talk only not a interview at all.

至於小朋友in 乜,其實you dont need to  prepare and you also cant preapre, just tell your kids relax and enjoy the class, no need to tell them it is a interview. All kids must love the interview section...dont worry.


作者: Cherry2012    時間: 17-1-17 15:39

c200 發表於 17-1-17 11:44
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想當年副校長見了我同我太太只是5mins,

thank you so much for sharing and it helps alot!

作者: ipheitat    時間: 17-1-17 17:18

2pmshow 發表於 17-1-16 16:02
我地個group約8人,通常都係父母alumni 而小朋友係esf kinder,所以應該有2樣priority

...

看來Priority group主導面試機會,random no 次要應該是沒錯。

哎,我QBS waitlist,父母HK local ,非almuni,屋企講中文,無哥哥姐姐。。。屬於最低priority,都懶得打去問了。

不知道會不會有奇蹟出現。



作者: jilly_goodsiste    時間: 17-1-18 17:37

RC 可唔可以打去問呢?

作者: 2pmshow    時間: 17-1-19 13:52

ipheitat 發表於 17-1-17 17:18
看來Priority group主導面試機會,random no 次要應該是沒錯。

哎,我QBS waitlist,父母HK local ,非al ...

呢排香港開多左好多間IS, 好多人會not take the offer

作者: applebot    時間: 17-1-19 13:56

2pmshow 發表於 17-1-19 13:52
呢排香港開多左好多間IS, 好多人會not take the offer

承你貴言。

作者: Sacrebleu    時間: 17-1-19 17:50

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RC doesn't use random no.  Once you are invited for an interview, then it's up to the child's performance.
作者: sharons    時間: 17-1-22 13:57     標題: 回覆:2pmshow 的帖子

請問 in 邊間有 school tour?




作者: hong0706    時間: 17-1-22 17:37

Sacrebleu 發表於 17-1-12 12:34
唔知一名二運三風水係咪真嘅呢?打咗去學校個random Number係190. 咁即係希望第二啲學校有Offer啦! ...
From what was told in the briefing sesssions, last year, the first 50 reserved places in BHS and the first 60 reserved places in KJS finally got offer if they passed the interview. I guess you are not applying BHS because if you are studing in ESF kinder your number will not be that high. If KJS, then you are the first 40 in reserved place and the chance seems good. If you are SJS, i don't know, but heard the situation is far better this year as WKS only has 6 classes against 8 classes this year.

作者: 2pmshow    時間: 17-1-23 23:52

sharons 發表於 17-1-22 13:57
請問 in 邊間有 school tour?

我地in QBS,係校務處小姐帶家長行一個圈,可能因為要小小時間等小朋友落來

作者: Sacrebleu    時間: 17-1-26 17:52

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I am not so worried about it now, if we get in we get in.  I guess you can say our reserve no. is 4X being 19X-150 places.  The ESF kindie principal had said to us their admission rate to ESF primary schools was above 90% last year, so I am not sure how it could be the case if they only applied for 2 ESF schools and 1 was put on the reserve list.  I suppose it's about timing of when they can give the offer.  Any parent who is reading this post should know that the chance of getting an interview is slim if you aren't from ESF kindie.
作者: ssmm1012    時間: 17-1-26 22:45

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May I ask why you said you are not too worried?Do you have any backup plan if your kid fails to secure any place for Year 1?
We are in the delimena if we should look for K3 space in a local kindly.

作者: Sacrebleu    時間: 17-2-13 14:48

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Hi there,
I am not worried because it's just a 'waiting game', eventually we will get an offer but just don't know when.  The results for the two ESF schools we have applied are out, we haven't got an offer but are on reserve list.  Over 90% of existing ESF kindie students will get an offer from ESF.  We have also applied for 1 more school and if we don't get an offer from any of them, then maybe will apply Y1 next year instead again as my son was born in Nov 2012 so he's a young one.

作者: Babybaby2011    時間: 17-2-13 16:36

Sacrebleu 發表於 17-1-19 17:50
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RC doesn't use random no.  Once you are invited for an interview, then  ...

RC only uses random no. to determine whether you have any chance for interview?

作者: Sacrebleu    時間: 17-2-13 21:37

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Once you get an interview then it's up to your performance at the interview
作者: 滑蛋河    時間: 17-2-21 20:42

ipheitat 發表於 17-1-17 17:18
看來Priority group主導面試機會,random no 次要應該是沒錯。

哎,我QBS waitlist,父母HK local ,非al ...

QBS有機會的,耐心等待。

作者: ipheitat    時間: 17-2-22 01:13

滑蛋河 發表於 17-2-21 20:42
QBS有機會的,耐心等待。

其實之前有看到滑蛋河你的文章鼓勵,現在只有聽天由命,畢竟最初並沒有長時間部署入ESF或其它IS,看到很多家長放了很多很多心機與金錢,其它人有得in有offer都好應該,我都想得通。

不過話說今年12月初來我們間幼稚園observation (前文知道我們小孩同讀一家幼稚園),問翻班主任其實QBS看左好耐,我個仔雖不在observation list,不過當日一貫的活潑活躍,唔知會不會暗地裏加分?哈!

………………………………………………

我真不知道ESF (QBS)去一些直屬或友好kindy observe有什麼目的?反正之後每個小朋友都要重新in一次。其實真正的居心何在???

Benchmarking 方便他們知道條curve要點拉?

或如佢地講給個印象給candidate咁簡單?

定系瞄下無得in的漏網之魚小朋友有沒有優秀的給個priority 2nd round?

天知道。。。

現在只能期待奇蹟出現。。。。

作者: haa    時間: 18-2-1 17:00

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請問樓主小朋友最後有冇入到foundation school? 咩月份call? 唔該哂!



作者: 抺茶雪糕    時間: 18-2-1 17:32     標題: 回覆樓主

I heard last year all kids in the reserve list(wks) got a spot at Esf foundation schools finally(though some took offer other the school they applied for)

作者: 貝珠    時間: 18-2-1 17:33

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請問樓主小朋友最後有冇入到foundation school? 咩月份call? 唔該哂!

我check 樓主出post 的history. 樓主random number around 190 , 約5月出post 問有冇sjs 二手校服。

我也是不停翻看舊post , 去預計入sjs 的chance

作者: Saboc    時間: 18-2-1 17:41

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for those on reserve list and pass the assessment might highly get a place finally
作者: Newhandmom    時間: 18-2-1 17:51     標題: 回覆樓主

想請教一下大家知唔知道Bradbury School既情況? 我仔係n冇人士, reserve list and 有機會interview.

作者: 貝珠    時間: 18-2-1 18:26

Saboc 發表於 18-2-1 17:41
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for those on reserve list and pass the assessment mighy highly get a place fin ...

今年唔同呀,wks 8班比上年多4x人。如果RC reject , random number 又好後,真係唔樂觀

作者: 964000    時間: 18-2-1 20:27

貝珠 發表於 18-2-1 18:26
今年唔同呀,wks 8班比上年多4x人。如果RC reject , random number 又好後,真係唔樂觀
...

其實今年還咁多新校,大家都想收英文水平的學生,只要試下apply其他學校,都不難有offer, 我識不少ESF kinder 的都已有FIS, NAIS,CAIS等offer, 只是等埋ESF再作決定,當然留位費都幾甘,很多都要短時間內交。

作者: 貝珠    時間: 18-2-1 21:51

964000 發表於 18-2-1 20:27
其實今年還咁多新校,大家都想收英文水平的學生,只要試下apply其他學校,都不難有offer, 我識不少ESF kin ...

我都識好幾個有其他學校的offer 以作back up, 留位費最少兩萬幾。不過最後esf or Rc 收,都係會入返esf or RC, 果兩萬幾for 賣個安心

作者: happy_schools    時間: 18-2-2 13:32

Esf primary total student 6100/ 6 = 1016 per grade
Esf kindie total student c. 1500/2. = 750 per grade .

If parents willing to move there should be more than enuf  seats?

Im not insider just est based on rough figures. Do correct me if im wrong or something i have missed..



作者: 抺茶雪糕    時間: 18-2-2 13:37

貝珠 發表於 18-2-1 21:51
我都識好幾個有其他學校的offer 以作back up, 留位費最少兩萬幾。不過最後esf or Rc 收,都係會入返esf or ...

It seems more and more parents prefer rc to esf now and so more spots of Esf will be available later

作者: ZackMama    時間: 18-2-2 14:25

happy_schools 發表於 18-2-2 13:32
Esf primary total student 6100/ 6 = 1016 per grade
Esf kindie total student c. 1500/2. = 750 per gra ...

本帖最後由 ZackMama 於 18-2-2 14:33 編輯

FYI, but I’m not too sure if moving in the middle of the process would help


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作者: calvinlinda    時間: 18-2-2 14:31     標題: 回覆樓主

好多住馬鞍山的都寧願揀rc,因為sjs校巴唔會逐個屋苑drop off學生,而係一lot過喺烏溪沙站落車,學童自行再搭車返屋企。如果參加課外活動更要下下上山接放學再轉九輪車返屋企,除非父母楂車或有私人司機。

作者: happy_schools    時間: 18-2-2 14:39

Then really cant figure out why some said they couldnt promote to esf primary..becoz parents generally not willing to move or some wrong planning?

作者: happy_schools    時間: 18-2-2 14:44

ZackMama 發表於 18-2-2 14:25
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FYI, but I’m not too sure if moving in the middle of t ...

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作者: 抺茶雪糕    時間: 18-2-2 14:51

happy_schools 發表於 18-2-2 14:39
Then really cant figure out why some said they couldnt promote to esf primary..becoz parents general ...
say, for those living in mos, i guess very few are willing to move to hki and it will be a big headache if they don't live in the catchment zone as no school bus for out of catchment zone areas, it's easier if it's bhs and kjs but these 2 schools area already over subscribed

作者: happy_schools    時間: 18-2-2 14:59

抺茶雪糕 發表於 18-2-2 14:51
say, for those living in mos, i guess very few are willing to move to hki and it will be a big heada ...

Would those on waiting list of the schools inside the zone be offered a second chance outside the zone , say on the condition that they can move?

作者: luckyveronique    時間: 18-2-2 15:01

calvinlinda 發表於 18-2-2 14:31
好多住馬鞍山的都寧願揀rc,因為sjs校巴唔會逐個屋苑drop off學生,而係一lot過喺烏溪沙站落車,學童自行再 ...

sjs的pta有校車經過馬鞍山各個屋苑的

作者: 抺茶雪糕    時間: 18-2-2 15:03

happy_schools 發表於 18-2-2 14:59
Would those on waiting list of the schools inside the zone be offered a second chance outside the z ...
yes if they pass the assessment but in the end no spot is available at the school of their zone, esf will offer them a spot at a school of another zone, they don't really have to move, but they have to arrange their own transport

作者: ZackMama    時間: 18-2-2 22:52

happy_schools 發表於 18-2-2 14:39
Then really cant figure out why some said they couldnt promote to esf primary..becoz parents general ...

本帖最後由 ZackMama 於 18-2-2 23:05 編輯

I guess offer from foundation school is really a waiting game like someone mentioned earlier, because ESF may give you a spot out of zone. But for RC, you won’t be offered anything else.


作者: calvinlinda    時間: 18-2-3 00:24

luckyveronique 發表於 18-2-2 15:01
sjs的pta有校車經過馬鞍山各個屋苑的

為何每天都有不少學童落校車後要另外搭車離開?

作者: luckyveronique    時間: 18-2-3 09:44

calvinlinda 發表於 18-2-3 00:24
為何每天都有不少學童落校車後要另外搭車離開?

有可能小朋友落校車後再搭車去mos上興趣班,也有可能馬鞍山校車線full了,都有可能啊

作者: 抺茶雪糕    時間: 18-2-3 09:58

luckyveronique 發表於 18-2-3 09:44
有可能小朋友落校車後再搭車去mos上興趣班,也有可能馬鞍山校車線full了,都有可能啊
...

我知道有啲住西沙路附近村屋

作者: calvinlinda    時間: 18-2-3 11:59

luckyveronique 發表於 18-2-3 09:44
有可能小朋友落校車後再搭車去mos上興趣班,也有可能馬鞍山校車線full了,都有可能啊
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Thanks luckyveronique! 頭先問咗個SJS 家長,佢話PTA校車full咗的話,其他external school buses未必個個屋苑都經,所以有啲學童要喺大站落車再自行回家。

作者: cskm71    時間: 18-2-3 20:57     標題: 回覆樓主:

其實舊年reserve list 有幾多人,最後又派位派到幾號

作者: ZackMama    時間: 18-2-3 22:45

cskm71 發表於 18-2-3 20:57
其實舊年reserve list 有幾多人,最後又派位派到幾號

今年reserve list有好多人,因為sjs in 晒所有有priority嘅人,保守估計有80人。

作者: 貝珠    時間: 18-2-3 23:26

cskm71 發表於 18-2-3 20:57
其實舊年reserve list 有幾多人,最後又派位派到幾號

舊年只有六班呀,到最後總之點都有sjs or RC offer 啦。單說sjs 就不清楚了





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