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作者: discuss 時間: 16-8-16 20:00 標題: ESF IB Chinese

中文Pathway 3 的學生 IB 可否考Chinese B?

作者: happy-kid 時間: 16-8-16 22:29 標題: 引用：中文Pathway+3+的學生+IB+可否考Chinese+B?

原帖由 discuss 於 16-08-16 發表
中文Pathway 3 的學生 IB 可否考Chinese B?

你意思是母語班想考中文B? 如係，我都想知。

作者: Radiomama 時間: 16-8-17 09:35

discuss 發表於 16-8-16 20:00
中文Pathway 3 的學生 IB 可否考Chinese B?

孩子仍是小學生? pathway 3順理成章到中學時會讀chinese A，一般來說考IB時是language A。除非中學階段成績差跌落chinese B啦。

作者: Cara2006 時間: 16-8-17 09:50 標題: 引用：Quote:discuss+發表於+16-8-16+20:00+中文P

原帖由 Radiomama 於 16-08-17 發表
孩子仍是小學生? pathway 3順理成章到中學時會讀chinese A，一般來說考IB時是language A。除非中學階段成績 ...

正解。
唔想讀 chinese a，讀其他外語如 spanish 。

作者: nintendo 時間: 16-8-17 10:32

Need to be very careful.
Thanks to the couple of IB schools that "cheated" their way out by putting local students (the "local students" here means students that have been with local schools for extended time and then transferred to IB only for last 2 years) in Chinese B. Universities (local and overseas) now look even more closely to the background of the students from Hong Kong.
ESF has always be quite honest with putting students in the right language stream. So it is impossible to request to move yourself down one level for language.
Like someone said, to avoid problems, take another language.

作者: 964000 時間: 16-8-17 11:00 標題: 引用：Need+to+be+very+careful.Thanks+to+the+co

原帖由 nintendo 於 16-08-17 發表
Need to be very careful.
Thanks to the couple of IB schools that "cheated" their way out by putting ...

Which are the schools that cheated the way down?

作者: 964000 時間: 16-8-17 11:00 標題: 引用：Need+to+be+very+careful.Thanks+to+the+co

原帖由 nintendo 於 16-08-17 發表
Need to be very careful.
Thanks to the couple of IB schools that "cheated" their way out by putting ...

Can ESF take French instead?

作者: nintendo 時間: 16-8-17 11:05

964000 發表於 16-8-17 11:00
Can ESF take French instead?

Check out with your own school. Each school offers different options.
I think Spanish and French are 2 of the more commonly offered classes.
Probably available to all ESF.

作者: bforbtec 時間: 16-8-17 12:27

本帖最後由 bforbtec 於 16-8-17 12:50 編輯

英基暫時方向

想迫學生考lang A chinese

近5年,120人平均只有6人考lang A 中文

根本無能力考, 學校多舊魚

承諾寫做英成 Year 10

你點去考中文lang A ?

上年三個考入cambridge law

全部lang B

作者: poonseelai 時間: 16-8-17 13:38 標題: 回覆：ESF IB Chinese

我朋友女兒自少英基讀，考Chi B SL, 如要考A真有难度，她說大部分也考B SL

作者: discuss 時間: 16-8-17 14:23 標題: 回覆：poonseelai 的帖子

從小到大學校都用那麼少時間教，中文和其他外語的上課時間差不多。根本無可能叫學生考Chinese A。

作者: discuss 時間: 16-8-17 14:44 標題: 回覆：discuss 的帖子

總不能說父母是中國人，小朋友說流利中文，中文就一定要很好，就應該考第一語言。如果是這樣，中國以前也不會有那麼多文盲。最重要是看學校本身是否以中文為第一語言來教。

作者: Activehealth 時間: 16-8-17 15:01

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作者: yyevita 時間: 16-8-17 15:55

Then English A+ Chinese B still enough for bilingual diploma? Or need double A?

作者: mingmingyinyin 時間: 16-8-17 16:28

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No bilingual diploma will be granted for taking 1 lang A and 1 lang B.
But as far as I know, not every parent/ student is concerned about getting a bilingual diploma, all depending on your target universities/ programs.

作者: poonseelai 時間: 16-8-17 16:59

本帖最後由 poonseelai 於 16-8-17 17:21 編輯

mingmingyinyin 發表於 16-8-17 16:28
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No bilingual diploma will be granted for taking 1 lang A and 1 lang B.

One can in deed get a bilingual diploma by taking 1 lang 1 and 1 lang B. There are two ways to a get a bilingual diploma:"Receiving a bilingual diploma[p=24, null, left]A bilingual diploma is awarded to candidates who complete and receive a grade 3 or higher in two languages selected from the DP course studies in language and literature.
[p=24, null, left]Students who gain a grade 3 or higher in studies in language and literature and a grade 3 or higher in an individuals and societies or science subject, completed in a different language, will also receive the bilingual diploma."
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[p=24, null, left]So, if one takes Chinese A and Eng B and then individual and societies/science subject in English, he/she will still get a bilingual diploma.

作者: LEGOLAND 時間: 16-8-17 19:34

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Yes

作者: nintendo 時間: 16-8-17 20:49

(1) 中文Pathway 3 的學生 IB 可否考Chinese B?

It is never a choice when it comes to Group 2 subject. A student has to take a Group 2 according to his or her ability. If a student has the standard of Chinese at native level, he has to take Chinese A. If you do not want to take Chinese A, there are other languages you can choose. A lot of students take French or Spanish, etc.

(2) 英基暫時方向, 想迫學生考lang A chinese

No one can be forced to take a language class. It is all about the policy of IBO as mentioned. IB is a very challenging program. If you felt being forced to take a subject, then may be IB is not suitable for you. Consider alternative programs at ESF. Note that you have a web name "bforbtec". I am sure you know BTEC much better than a lot of other people here. It is a very good and practical program and lots of BTEC students are able to go to universities.

(3) 從小到大學校都用那麼少時間教，中文和其他外語的上課時間差不多。根本無可能叫學生考Chinese A。

Like I said, no one can force a student to take a language level that is not appropriate.
Those that were recommended to take Chinese A, are those that really have the ability and standard of Chinese A.

作者: Conniemom 時間: 16-8-17 21:41 標題: 指英文科

本帖最後由 Conniemom 於 16-8-17 21:44 編輯

香港學生是傱幼稚園就開始學習英文，大家認為他們考IB的話，是否應該要選擇Lang A呢？

作者: Conniemom 時間: 16-8-17 21:47

換句話說，香港學生是否應該選擇both Chi A and Eng A?

作者: poonseelai 時間: 16-8-17 23:34 標題: 引用：換句話說，香港學生是否應該選擇both+Chi+A

本帖最後由 poonseelai 於 16-8-17 23:41 編輯

原帖由 Conniemom 於 16-08-17 發表
換句話說，香港學生是否應該選擇both Chi A and Eng A?

這問題不易答，IB 定義 language A 是 first language, native or the best language, language b 正名是language acquistion, ie to acquire and use the language in a range of contexts and at the same time promote an understanding of another culture through the study of its language. 如一香港學生生長於香港人家庭，自少在国際學校讀，應考中文A定B？

作者: nintendo 時間: 16-8-18 17:08

本帖最後由 nintendo 於 16-8-18 17:19 編輯

Conniemom 發表於 16-8-17 21:41
香港學生是傱幼稚園就開始學習英文，大家認為他們考IB的話，是否應該要選擇Lang A呢？ ...

Hong Kong local school curriculum = English second language.
So technically, they can take English B.

作者: nintendo 時間: 16-8-18 17:25

poonseelai 發表於 16-8-17 23:34
如一香港學生生長於香港人家庭，自少在国際學校讀，應考中文A定B？

Around 5-6 years ago, IBO stopped using the "number of years" a student learnt a language to classify where he belongs. Many IS stream students in different level of Chinese classes. So for those that have always studied Chinese as a second language, they can take Chinese B. Some students however can keep up with "native" level and thus there are students that are able to take Chinese A.
Similar situation for local students. Local students learn English as a second language and thus they can take English B, even if they have learn English since K1.

作者: cpmummy 時間: 16-8-19 09:52 標題: 回覆：ESF IB Chinese

想請問那些大學會注重睇你考Chinese A (SL or HL)又或Chinese B (SL or HL)呢？想入香港的大學是否一定要考Chinese呢？

作者: nintendo 時間: 16-8-19 13:01

cpmummy 發表於 16-8-19 09:52
想請問那些大學會注重睇你考Chinese A (SL or HL)又或Chinese B (SL or HL)呢？想入香港的大學是否一定要考 ...

I think universities would look at the background of students.
Many international school students take Chinese B, some do not even study Chinese for Group 2. They have no problem with getting into local universities (including medicine and law).
However, universities may be not as lax with local IB schools. That is probably also one reason, most local IB schools only offer Chinese A as Group 2. For obvious reasons, local students in local schools cannot take Chinese B.

作者: poonseelai 時間: 16-8-19 13:35

cpmummy 發表於 16-8-19 09:52
想請問那些大學會注重睇你考Chinese A (SL or HL)又或Chinese B (SL or HL)呢？想入香港的大學是否一定要考 ...

Also depends on where you are applying to. Taking Chinese B may be seem by US universities as not challenging enough. I know some students applying to the US will take 4, instead of 3, high levels subjects, i.e. Chinese B high level plus 3 others.

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