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標題: Cdnis or SIS [打印本頁]
作者: DaddyR 時間: 14-4-20 21:06 標題: Cdnis or SIS
My girl got offers from Cdnis-reception and SIS- PY1, both have it pros and cons, we've been struggling for long time, but still can't make the decision.....
Would any parents can comment please?
作者: ikerberg 時間: 14-4-21 05:20
本帖最後由 ikerberg 於 14-4-21 07:24 編輯
As a parent of 3 kids - 2 in PY1, 1 in P1 of SIS, I think I am in a suitable position to comment on SIS. I think the biggest advantage of SIS over other IS is that it could really develop very well the bilingual capabilities of kids since very young - PY1 (aged 4).
For English, it is the main communication medium among kids in school and playground, and although the school does not have a very demanding / hectic schedule for English, kids could still develop excellent English skills without much pressure.
For Chinese/Putonghua, after some reform/re-structure in the past 1-2 years, I could say its Chinese standard in terms of reading and writing would not be lower than local schools', if not higher. And, for speaking Putonghua, they could achieve native/nearly native standard, which of course, is much higher than local schools'. It is because of this biggest edge that we choose SIS. Since I and my wife believe the importance of Chinese/Putonghua as of now and the coming decades, we thought that it was SIS or nothing. That's why, we did not apply any other IS at all, from day one.
For sure, language skills, like Rome, is not built in one day, and admirable Chinese/Putonghua standard is not built on a vaccum, and neither would it be a miraculous fruit of an act of God, which the kids could reap after a night of sweet dream.
Extensive reading, some drillings and exercises are conducive to building solid and good foundation in languages, surely including Chinese/Putonghua.
SIS adopted a very structured approach, encouraging kids reading a lot of interesting Chinese books since PY1, and along the path, relying on its well-designed curriculum, equipping kids to sit for IB Chinese exam [First Language].
Hence, the kids could develop such good habit of learning Chinese since very young, and you would not hear complaints from kids about 'hating Chinese' which is yet quite a common phenomenon in other IS. But, it is true the schedule of Chinese teaching may be a bit tight to kids, e.g. in P1 - all the teaching of PINYIN (phonics system of Putonghua) is completed in 8 weeks, which I heard from others, would take one year in ESF. If kids' parents know nothing about Chinese/Putonghua or the kids are of mediocre/lower ability in lanugages, it would be a problem and employing private tutor seems quite unavoidable.
In last summer, during our vacation in Malaysia and when I and my wife spoke to the Chinese Malaysian driver in Putonghua, our eldest son surprised us by taking the iniative to chat with that driver fluently in Putonghua. This surprised us because we seldom spoke to him in PTH on any occasion, and we clearly did not know he had such an ability. By then, he had just finished PY2 and we could not have foreseen that 2 years of PTH education in SIS would yield such an amazing fruit !!!
The distinctive PRO of SIS [strong at Chinese/Putonghua] to some parents like us is exactly a CON - [schoolwork and homework] in the eyes of other parents.
So, it finally would be kind of 'values decision', whether you value developing kids' Chinese/Putonghua standard over 'schoolwork/homework', and it is very very personal.
Afterall, I think either of the two schools would have been a dream school to many ppl. Congratulations!
[ The Almightly above is too 'harsh' to you. If there had not been two, but one, it would not have been such a 'headache', haha. ]
作者: hkparent 時間: 14-4-21 08:00 標題: 引用：+本帖最後由+ikerberg+於+14-4-21+07:24+編
原帖由 ikerberg 於 14-04-21 發表
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As a parent of 3 kids - 2 in PY1, 1 in P1 of SIS, I thi ...
作者: ikerberg 時間: 14-4-21 08:37
No Sing accent among students mainly cos all English teachers are native speakers from UK, US, Canada etc. For those who still have doubt in 'Singlish', the best way to solve such doubt is to come to talk to the students directly on ocassions like openhouse and christmas fair. Non Asians are the minority .... in most cases of non Asians.. parents are 1 blond + 1 asian
作者: hkparent 時間: 14-4-21 10:45 標題: 引用：No+Sing+accent+among+students+mainly+cos
原帖由 ikerberg 於 14-04-21 發表
No Sing accent among students mainly cos all English teachers are native speakers from UK, US, Canad ...
作者: DaddyR 時間: 14-4-21 12:58 標題: 回覆：ikerberg 的帖子
Thank you for your very detailed comments!
I have heard that turnover of teaching staff at SIS has been higher than usual in recent years, have you seen this first-hand?
作者: ikerberg 時間: 14-4-21 13:11
本帖最後由 ikerberg 於 14-4-21 13:20 編輯
my scope of knowledge is just limited to PY1, 2 and P1. According to my observation, all the teaching staff I know remained there and if there was some turnover, it was hardly signicant in magnitude. For the Upper Primary and Secondary, I have no knowledge about it.
But, it is not surprising even if there is such a phenomenon cos' there should be quite a lot of changes, esp. in Secondary, for example, SIS's secondary school new campus was established 1-2 years ago, and the IB Programme was just started at the same time. Obviously, the school had to recruit qualified IB teachers to do the jobs.
As far as the eligibility/qualification of teachers is concerned, I think you should have confidence in the school, e.g. my eldest son's class teacher (also the English teacher) who just joined the school in last August, though still quite young, has two master degrees from US Universities, and had teaching experience in other IS in other countries. She is also humble, gentle, nice and knows how to master the class in an orderly way. We are very glad to have her, so very qualified teacher teaching my son English 
作者: 112200 時間: 14-4-22 01:03 標題: 回覆：Cdnis or SIS
My son is in PY 2 , no singlish and his pth is v accurate always correct my husband. He pick up a v gd reading habit while the reading atomphere us v strong and fun at sis. He brings his favourite books wherever we go on holiday...he will read when in mtr, waiting for dinner . One of the thing i want to share is : tonight he talked to himself " oh yeah..... I can go to SiS school tmr finally...."
作者: 112200 時間: 14-4-22 01:04 標題: 回覆：Cdnis or SIS
sorry should be....." oh yeah..... I can go to school tmr finally...."
作者: elock 時間: 14-4-22 09:59 標題: 回覆：DaddyR 的帖子
Hi, my kid does not study in either school, but I would like to share some of my experiences in choosing school.
I am sure both SIS and CDNIS are good schools and very hard to get admitted.
By scanning some of the messages in this thread, most parents focus on Chinese. Yes, Chinese is important and hard to grasp. However, each day in school there is only so much teaching time. If lots of time is spent on one subject, that means other subject will have less time. With that in mind, does it mean private tutoring is required? Is the tutoring meant for upgrading the kid or for surviving in school?
Also, having one working parent or two working parents make a lot of differences. I believe many discussions have omitted thos point. It is more crucial if the working hours are fixed.
Just to side track a bit, SIS teaches simplified Chinese characters while CDNIS teaches traditional characters.
IB is a trend now. Whether a school gives good education framework for the students to fit IB is important. IB score is a reference, but will your child go through all the school years in this school?
Hope to give you a different perspective!
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 14-4-22 13:07 標題: 回覆：Cdnis or SIS
When I read this thread, I can't help but ask myself since when do we put Chinese as number one criterion in education or schooling. Or am I completely mistaken and Chinese is NOT the number one criterion?
作者: jolalee 時間: 14-4-22 15:05
elock 發表於 14-4-22 09:59 
Just to side track a bit, SIS teaches simplified Chinese characters while CDNIS teaches traditional characters.
IB is a trend now. Whether a school gives good education framework for the students to fit IB is important. IB score is a reference, but will your child go through all the school years in this school? ...
I agree too re: IB score. SIS has only twenty odd students doing IB the past year while CDNIS, CIS & ESF has over 100 each. With such a different sample size it is not comparable. Also one must look at a longer track record and not dependent on a single year (ie. KGV had an amazing IB average 2012 but bombed a bit in 2013, so it's possible they are just lucky with a few smart students that particular year). It is best to look at the school as a whole instead on stressing on the IB score of a single year.
作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 14-4-22 15:44
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shadeslayer 發表於 14-4-22 13:07
When I read this thread, I can't help but ask myself since when do we put Chinese as number one crit ...
It depends on the individual family, each may have very different plans and goals.
I believe our friend ikerberg had posted before saying Chinese (Mandarin) is of paramount importance to their family, and if their children couldn't get into SIS for it's strong Chinese they would rather let them continue in local schools. The reason I remember this is because our friend ikerberg had expressed it quite a few times.
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 14-4-22 18:34 標題: 引用：+本帖最後由+FattyDaddy+於+14-4-22+15:48+
原帖由 FattyDaddy 於 14-04-22 發表
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Don't get me wrong, I also agree Chinese is very important in this part of the world. I just find it interesting that a tool is regarded as more important than the outcome, ie language proficiency at a certain level is more important than knowledge acquisition itself?
作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 14-4-23 00:07
本帖最後由 FattyDaddy 於 14-4-23 00:08 編輯
shadeslayer 發表於 14-4-22 18:34
I just find it interesting that a tool is regarded as more important than the outcome, ie language proficiency at a certain level is more important than knowledge acquisition itself? ...
I don't want to speculate on individual family's reason behind placing importance on a language either, the way I look at it is, language is more than just a tool, it affects our thinking and may even determine what kind of person we become. For example, it will be very difficult for me to become an Islamic Fundamentalist if I don't know Arabic, not a good example but it proves a point {:1_1:}
作者: ikerberg 時間: 14-4-23 08:19
本帖最後由 ikerberg 於 14-4-26 05:54 編輯
If my first message left in this post is read carefully enough, it should have been noticed that what I had meant =. SIS is good at developing kids' BILINGUAL capabilities [not just Chinese/PTH]... and the aim of my first message was to provide some clues for the 'post creator' DaddyR to possibly solve his dilemma - ie. to provide information/ offer insights from the perspective of a parent with small kids studying there. So, the emphasis was what makes SIS different from other IS, and in this respect, Chinese/PTH should be a consideration if you wish your kids could develop bilingual abilities. Afterall, regular IS could develop kids English proficiency, but if in your personal view, you value biligual capabilities, SIS may be a preference. If my focus had been just Chinese, my choice would have been Pui Ching etc.
So, the main coverage of my first message was about SIS's Chinese/PTH. And surely, if you ask me, what are the other pros - which would include - English skills, science and maths, digital arts, kids like going to school, through-train, better discipline etc. But, the reason for why I just mentioned Chinese/PTH is that this feature is more distinctive, when compared to other attributes just mentioned above which I also consider as 'pros'.
Finally, when it comes to whether you treat language skills as just a 'tool' to knowledge, or whether language skills is more important than knowledge is kind of very personal view. It would be futile if I like orange and try to persuade you that my orange is sweeter than your apple.
So, my happiness of giving comments here is not built on successfully persuading you that my kids' school is better than your kids' and engaging in futile discussions/agruments. My happiness is built on my messages being able to help those who are in the dilemma and help them sort out the best choice to them. Afterall, as mentioned in my first message, it would finally come to some 'values decision' when you are choosing which school is a best-fit to your kid.
作者: hkparent 時間: 14-4-23 09:06 標題: 引用：+本帖最後由+ikerberg+於+14-4-23+08:50+編
原帖由 ikerberg 於 14-04-23 發表
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If my first message left in this post is read carefully ...
作者: 112200 時間: 14-4-23 09:47
re the question on " Chinese is the most important in evaluatiing an IS ?".....I think it just subject to the background of individual reader. While we are reading a page of " International school" and English is assumed more or less at the similar level. When someone ask to compare 2 IS, it is natural to compare something outside English. For example if you ask CDNIS vs FIS, for sure FIS parent will tell you something related French language and no surprise someone will say " Oh is French really that important when we evaluating a IS ?" ...etc.
For SIS, there was a v detail sharing on their curriculum, learning style, kids weekly presentation, test/ exam, homworks, evaulation system, progress of learning report . They are project oriented and as far as I know kids started to do their own project since PY2. From the comment of primary parents, kids have got good enough stimulation by teachers in class re projet topic, then kids are self motivated to busy around for the projects. For the result, parents may also like to see the IGCSE result of SIS which is also a benchmark for comparison.
For CDNIS, There were quite some thread talk about the hardware of the school and also how happy the kids are stay in school. Some parents did ask the curriculum before and quite some feedback from many parent, but each feedback is short and often concluded with kids like to go to school.
All of above are the fact I read so far for both school. FYI and you can search it out too.
作者: ikerberg 時間: 14-4-23 09:54
本帖最後由 ikerberg 於 14-4-23 09:58 編輯
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My simple answer to questions of HKParent is 'NO'.
Basically, core features of SIS's teaching methods, according our observations:
- fun/interest based
- creativity encouraged
- presentations skills enchanced through - Eng / PTH short personal presentation since PY1 & drama class since PY1 [drama class is what we like most --- and it in fact is very effective in developing kids' multi-intelligence --- verbal skills, movements, and langugae usage etc]
- no tests in PY1-2
- from P1, bite size tests - English spelling, Chinese PINYIN to enlarge vocal base, secure the languages.
Maybe other parents / students of primary and secondary sections could add some points.
Afterall, my bottom line is not making my kids 'hate going to school, hate learning, hate homework'......
So far, what I observe is they like going to school and reading, and remain positive about doing homework.
作者: greenspring 時間: 14-4-23 11:59
SIS primary has many different assessments and tests throughout the terms. Teachers always email to parents to help their kids to prepare for the tests. My son has pressure from tests and so am I as I also need to prepare his tests. Kids are competitive in general I feel and parents do send kids to tuitions to stay advanced. Like after the Easter 's break, we have tests from three days with a week.
If you don't like tests continually throughout the whole academic year, SIS may not be a good choice.
作者: hkparent 時間: 14-4-23 12:35 標題: 引用：SIS+primary+has+many+different+assessmen
原帖由 greenspring 於 14-04-23 發表
SIS primary has many different assessments and tests throughout the terms. Teachers always email to ...
作者: 112200 時間: 14-4-23 12:54
hkparent 發表於 14-4-23 12:35
Not in any way similar to primary education in UK, US or Australia. It's like a Singapore school rat ...
All countries got different schools of different learning style. Parents should put their kids in school according to their capability and learning attitude. But to me , school is a miniature community. If we put kids in a pressure free greenhouse for many years..... can they really adopt to the world when they grow up . This is the matter of give & take, all learning style have pros and cons.
作者: hkparent 時間: 14-4-23 13:09 標題: 引用：Quote:hkparent+發表於+14-4-23+12:35+Not+
原帖由 112200 於 14-04-23 發表
All countries got different schools of different learning style. Parents should put their kids in s ...
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 14-4-23 13:16 標題: 引用：+本帖最後由+ikerberg+於+14-4-23+08:50+編
原帖由 ikerberg 於 14-04-23 發表
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If my first message left in this post is read carefully ...
I have nothing to do with either school. There is no right or wrong, I just find holding Chinese as the top selection criterion above everything else an interesting concept.
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 14-4-23 13:29 標題: 引用：re+the+question+on+"+Chinese+is+the+most
原帖由 112200 於 14-04-23 發表
re the question on " Chinese is the most important in evaluatiing an IS ?".....I think it just subje ...
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I am not sure I agree with that. I have heard many cases where student
from one IS failed the English test of another IS.
Ikerberg did mention it is either SIS or nothing (meaning local school) because of Chinese. Not that there is anything wrong with that. It just goes to show that there are people who really take Chinese as the most important criterion, to a point where curriculum, teachers, likelihood of university locally or abroad etc are not as important.
Again it is value judgment and there is no right or wrong.
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 14-4-23 13:39 標題: 引用：Quote:hkparent+發表於+14-4-23+12:35+Not+
原帖由 112200 於 14-04-23 發表
All countries got different schools of different learning style. Parents should put their kids in s ...
Local school parents who send their loved ones to two kindergartens, or to schools having very competitive tests and exams from P1, they use the same "greenhouse" argument. The question is not about pressure. The question is "when".
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 14-4-23 13:50
hkparent 發表於 14-4-23 12:35
Not in any way similar to primary education in UK, US or Australia. It's like a Singapore school rat ...
作者: ikerberg 時間: 14-4-23 14:12
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hkparent 發表於 14-4-23 13:09
Most senior bankers in Central (foreigners) grew up in primary schools with minimal academic pressur ...
Excuse me, I really do not want to look like argumentative, but I just wish to give some response to this argument.
If your argument is right, i.e. certain types of education would yield certain types of successful people... then..
please consider Lee Ka Shing having no formal secondary school, whereas Steve Jobs and Bill Gates both quit university education, yet being so successful... why do we bother spending huge sum of money trying to land our kids on Oxbridge / IVY League colleges...
And, friends of mine who are I Bankers in Central now did receive high-pressure school education in S.Korea, Singapore before securing a place in those famous U in US.
After all, is being an 'I Banker' in Central a dream to all people?
How about a competent doctor who could save ppl's life while being able to earn quite a good salary?
How about a scientist who builds machines to land ppl on Mars?
Who is more successful, yet again, is very personal.
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作者: hkparent 時間: 14-4-23 15:01 標題: 引用：+本帖最後由+ikerberg+於+14-4-23+14:19+編
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作者: ikerberg 時間: 14-4-23 15:32
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hkparent 發表於 14-4-23 15:01
I tend to agree with Shadeslayer on asking the question "when should the pressure start"?
It is the question that every parent is going to answer for their kid(s), and pressure could be of various degrees, whereas different kids would also give different responses to pressure... some would thrive on it, while some would just fall flat in the face of it.
Having said that, in my view, the pressure of SIS's school/homework is moderate, somewhere in between of LS and very free IS.
While we can't say for sure whether there is a causal link between parents' choice and children's destiny, there would certainly be some correlation between the two. With limited information, experience and examples for reference, we parents sometimes have to rely on some personal judgement, as well as intuition, to opt for a choice we hope to be right and most suitable to kids, on FAITH to a certan extent
作者: 112200 時間: 14-4-23 16:30 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+112200+於+14-04-23+發表All+
原帖由 hkparent 於 14-04-23 發表
Most senior bankers in Central (foreigners) grew up in primary schools with minimal academic pressur ...
作者: 112200 時間: 14-4-23 16:34 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+112200+於+14-04-23+發表All+
原帖由 shadeslayer 於 14-04-23 發表
I understand ESF and many other western IS do not have homework for the entire primary years. Are yo ...
作者: 112200 時間: 14-4-23 16:41 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+ikerberg+於+14-04-23+發表本
原帖由 hkparent 於 14-04-23 發表
I tend to agree with Shadeslayer on asking the question "when should the pressure start"?
作者: DaddyR 時間: 14-4-23 19:20 標題: 回覆：112200 的帖子
i would like to express a quick "thank you" to everyone for the variety of differing views. i guess the fact that so many differing viewpoints exist is why such a wide spectrum of education options is out there.
in any event, thanks for sharing!
作者: compsognathus 時間: 14-4-23 22:22
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I am a SIS student currently in P6, having started at SIS in PY1.
While I do agree SIS students suffer from varying levels of stress, I personally believe that this stress is at least partially due to personal problems.
I have a classmate who is rather stressed at school who constantly brings his worry to me. He has told me that his stress at school is due to trying to meet his father’s expectations. He has been punished severely for failing an exam which he tried to do his best in.
Another potential reason for stress at school is constant extracurricular activities. I have a friend who has to swim two hours a day for most of the week. She has told me that once she had to swim kilometers straight, and is also stressed about school. This stress might be due to extracurricular activities taking away time to revise or even potentially take away time for crucial projects, although I am not against extracurricular activities.
Most of my class is constantly stressed with trying not to get scolded by their teachers for not meeting expectations. I have overheard them muttering about hatred of the few teachers that do tend to scold them. However, I personally believe that it should be the fault of the student that he or she does not meet the teacher’s expectations and therefore gets scolded. My classmates’ various habits, like packing their items before class ends, talking in class, et cetera, would also contribute to their being scolded, and therefore being stressed.
But I digress. The main point is, stress in students can have multiple reasons, and it is important to isolate each one before tackling the problem.
作者: hkparent 時間: 14-4-24 00:34 標題: 引用：+本帖最後由+compsognathus+於+14-4-23+22:
原帖由 compsognathus 於 14-04-23 發表
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I am a SIS student currently in P6, having started ...
By now, if I had a choice between CDNIS and SIS, I would definitely choose the former, which is a real IS in the general sense. Love and positive learning attitudes are what I value. A personal preference only. Both are good schools from different perspectives.
作者: Jane1983 時間: 14-4-24 17:10
呢間叫新加坡國際學校，如果家長對新加坡教育理念、做法非常吾認同，根本in the first place就吾會報。
認識朋友的仔女讀esf、cndis、sis、cis、女拔和St Paul coed⋯等，觀察幾年，一個感覺係，如果小朋友係最top的幾%，其實佢係IS或LS或讀邊間，其實分別吾大，都係中英並重、有料、識表達自己、有分析力。
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 14-4-24 21:18 標題: 引用：呢間叫新加坡國際學校，如果家長對新加坡教
原帖由 Jane1983 於 14-04-24 發表
呢間叫新加坡國際學校，如果家長對新加坡教育理念、做法非常吾認同，根本in the first place就吾會報。
認 ...
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 14-4-24 21:22
compsognathus 發表於 14-4-23 22:22
I am a SIS student currently in P6, having started at SIS in PY1.
While I do agree SIS students su ...
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 14-4-24 22:02
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Jane1983 我只看top5-10%，平均咪睇公開試成績 發表於 14 分鐘前
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Top 5 to 10% can self-motivate and excel regardless of the schools? Top 10% of local schools students can't even speak or write reasonable English despite having learn English for 15 years by the time they enter University.
作者: Jane1983 時間: 14-4-24 23:08
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這個有也好討論？你話local差的，英文甩頭甩骨，佢話IS差的，吸毒濫交。傾極都無意思。
作者: Jane1983 時間: 14-4-24 23:16
我覺得呢一代人的小朋友，好的local schools出來，top10%的英文未至於咁差。一來自少有傭人，家裡經常講，吾會話驚講英文，二來父母超重視，會伴讀伴講，致力提高。
我住果度有吾少讀local schools的小朋友和讀IS的在會所一齊玩，佢地有時講英文，有時講廣東話，吾差呀！
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 14-4-24 23:35
shadeslayer you missed the point, we are not talking about IS vs LS. You said highly motivated self learners who do not need a school. I said 1% and you said 10%. Let the views judge what is reasonable 發表於 1 秒前
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Even we say 10%, what about the 90% who are just normal kids? What is the point of saying for the top 1%/10% students, schools do not make a difference? What about the rest of the 99%/90%?
作者: Jane1983 時間: 14-4-24 23:42
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你真係煩，你鍾意扮教育家，最好去教育局搵份工！
我講我的想法，無打算同你辯論，不如你以後吾話答我d留言啦！
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 14-4-25 00:01
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Jane1983 發表於 14-4-24 23:42
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你真係煩，你鍾意扮教育家，最好去教育局搵份工！
人地樓主問選校意見，你卻以專家口吻說尖子咩學校也一樣，我只說出咁講無乜用，講左等如無講。你似專家多D。
唔想人回你，你唔出文咪得囉。出左文又唔比人回，你咁大爺嘅？
作者: Jane1983 時間: 14-4-25 09:41
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你系度甘多年，就系撩事鬥非，令人討厭。
吾該過主啦，我吾想簁時間！
作者: jilin1960 時間: 14-4-25 11:33
Hi ,Jane,pls check pm.thx a lot.
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 14-4-25 12:45 標題: 引用：回覆+shadeslayer+的帖子 你系度甘多年，
原帖由 Jane1983 於 14-04-25 發表
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你系度甘多年，就系撩事鬥非，令人討厭。
咁普通的對話，你亂扣我帽子，用D咁尖刻的言詞駡人，看官自有判斷。
作者: Jane1983 時間: 14-4-25 12:56
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看咩官判咩斷，你就係當呢度係擂台，吓吓同人肉搏，所以咁惡頂。
人地上嚟交流吓，啱傾咪傾，吾啱咪算，邊有你咁係要嘈過死去活過，一定要講最後果句。
見你蝦蝦霸霸，忍你好耐。
作者: ikerberg 時間: 14-4-25 13:17
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Jane1983 發表於 14-4-25 12:56
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看咩官判咩斷，你就係當呢度係擂台，吓吓同人肉搏，所以咁惡頂。
作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 14-4-25 15:37
> slamai Your example proves nothing meaningful at all
Hehe, obviously it is meaningless ... to you.
My example was really just a dramatic way to say "it is very difficult to think like a Chinese without knowing much Chinese", if you disagree with that, it is fine by me {:1_1:}
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 14-4-25 19:57
FattyDaddy 發表於 14-4-25 15:37
> slamai Your example proves nothing meaningful at all
Hehe, obviously it is meaningless ... to yo ...
作者: jolalee 時間: 14-4-26 09:25
本帖最後由 jolalee 於 14-4-26 09:31 編輯
jolalee 發表於 14-4-22 15:05
Just to clarify, I believe CDNIS teaches in simplified Chinese. I think it is SIS that teaches in tr ...
After much confusion and searching, i found out that CDNIS teaches BOTH simplified & traditional Chinese, depending on which stream is chosen:
http://sites.cdnis.edu.hk/school/chinese/files/2014/01/Differences-between-Language-A-B-Mandarin-Stream.pdf
Language A-- Reading and writing: traditional characters are taught. Simplified characters are introduced in the Upper School
Language B-- Reading and writing: simplified characters are taught. Traditional characters are introduced for practical recognition purposes
I think this is quite thoughtful. Kids with Chinese background can learn the more difficult but culture related traditional characters while keeping the expat kids happy with simplified characters which is much easier to learn. No wonder why CDNIS has a much higher non-Asian population compared with the other Chinese heavy IS, while still up holding the reputation of teaching Chinese well. (Again, every parent's requirement is different. for my family, as long as the kid can read the local newspaper by primary graduation i am happy. that's basically my own level anyway)
For some parents, it is important to expose the kids in an international community where Asian is not the dominant culture, otherwise it is somewhat losing the point of going to an International school. How CDNIS did it allows both cultures to coexist within the same school without losing out on families who want their children to learn some decent Chinese. After finding this out I am much happier with CDNIS.
作者: hkparent 時間: 14-4-26 12:54 標題: 引用：+本帖最後由+jolalee+於+14-4-26+09:31+編
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作者: shadeslayer 時間: 14-4-26 13:38
hkparent 發表於 14-4-26 12:54
That's why I said I would also choose CDNIS. If I want a traditional teaching method, tests and exam ...
作者: RayEE 時間: 14-4-26 14:26 標題: 引用：+本帖最後由+compsognathus+於+14-4-23+22:
原帖由 compsognathus 於 14-04-23 發表
本帖最後由 compsognathus 於 14-4-23 22:23 編輯
I am a SIS student currently in P6, having started ...
If packing up late at the end of the day, talking in the classroom... as what you mentioned will result being scolded by teachers and that is considered "normal"... I will be so sad for my child.
作者: compsognathus 時間: 14-4-26 20:41
本帖最後由 compsognathus 於 14-4-26 20:43 編輯
My parents and I all do not quite know the standards of modern traditional teaching methods, with local schools having changed since my parents were my age and the fact that I am an only child studying at an international school. However, love and positive learning attitudes are present at SIS. I do not know what teachers at CDNIS or local schools are like, but at SIS, all teachers are strict in discipline but some are stricter than the others. Such is the case with my Mandarin Chinese teacher, being one of the stricter types of teachers. Ask yourself. Does talking in class when not permitted, disrupting the lesson and therefore the learning experience of everyone else, or packing up before the lesson ends, not warrant a scolding? I would like to ask; in what situations is talking among yourselves in class permitted in other international schools?
To address a worry faced by some parents, Singlish is not a problem at SIS.Singaporean students at SIS are mostly capable of speaking without their accent, and attempts at speaking Singlish by a native Singaporean student have failed badly, due to some pronunciation issues not present in Singlish. In fact, many students mock the Singaporean accent of some teachers in the Mathematics department. SIS does not stress on pronunciation of words, but it is safe to assume that most Singaporean students at SIS do not pick up an accent.
SIS is relatively relaxed on student expectations. Many SIS students have time for extracurricular/recreational activities after school or, if applicable,tuition, and some of them have a lot of fun learning at school. I have a friend who studies at an excellent local school. He is currently extremely stressed about getting enough marks in his examinations to be promoted to the secondary section of his school, while I am rather relaxed with a lot of time on my hands, and I even have time to get on BK.
I am not trying to persuade you into applying for SIS. When I joined this thread,I wanted to address the issue of stress in students. Which school you file an application for your children is not my business.
作者: ikerberg 時間: 14-4-27 10:35
compsognathus 發表於 14-4-26 20:41
My parents and I all do not quite know the standards of modern traditional teaching methods, with lo ...
HI compsognathus, it seems we have lost sight of you for a few years?! Welcome back!
I am glad to see you grow and having developed remarkable English proficiency.
I would be more than pleased if my children's English standard could reach your level when they are in P.6.
All I wish to say to you is --- stay cool and enjoy school life.
All the best!
作者: HIHinsurance 時間: 14-4-28 19:22
本帖最後由 HIHinsurance 於 14-4-28 19:24 編輯
Sis 數理比 加 cdnis 強好多
入香港的大學 首選sis
暑假幾個grade 11 cdnis父母一齊睇加拿大大學
作者: hkparent 時間: 14-4-28 23:20 標題: 引用：+本帖最後由+HIHinsurance+於+14-4-28+19:2
原帖由 HIHinsurance 於 14-04-28 發表
本帖最後由 HIHinsurance 於 14-4-28 19:24 編輯
Sis 數理比 加 cdnis 強好多
作者: jilin1960 時間: 14-4-29 20:55
SIS中文是学小学华文吗？
作者: mama530 時間: 14-4-30 09:00 標題: 回覆：jilin1960 的帖子
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作者: jilin1960 時間: 14-4-30 10:09
謝謝，請問可在哪買？小朋友下學期插班讀五年級，我想跟他溫習一下四年級的內容。
作者: mama530 時間: 14-4-30 10:20
jilin1960 發表於 14-4-30 10:09
謝謝，請問可在哪買？小朋友下學期插班讀五年級，我想跟他溫習一下四年級的內容。 ...
不用客氣, 課本可在學校的 Book Shop 購買, 你可先致電 Book Shop 的 staff Cindy, 確定有貨才去, 另有需要亦可請她介紹相關的課外書參考, Cindy 非常 helpful 的!
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作者: jilin1960 時間: 14-4-30 10:24
謝謝，我在書店看到的不是這個版本。待注册日我再去問問。
作者: mama530 時間: 14-4-30 10:28
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四, 五年級的我不太清楚, 因為課本都是經學校書店買的, 加上下學年的書單已收到, 問 Cindy 就最清楚了!
作者: jilin1960 時間: 14-4-30 10:32
明白。多谢你。
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