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作者: Danjunior 時間: 16-7-3 11:45 標題: ESF vs VSA Y1 請大家比啲意見
好好彩2間都有offer Y1比我地，而家好頭痛唔知點揀。 大家可以比啲意見嗎？ 謝謝。
作者: sagesage 時間: 16-7-3 14:10 標題: 回覆：ESF vs VSA Y1 請大家比啲意見
我會選VSA ,語言中英平均！請問VSA 要買債倦？多少？
作者: Danjunior 時間: 16-7-3 14:21
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如本身係佢地幼稚園讀緊，就唔一定要買債卷，佢地都會接受申請面試，因為VSA而家只收返Victoria啲學生。
如果係街外生，就要買債卷才可有面試機會。
作者: siubotze 時間: 16-7-3 15:51 標題: 回覆：ESF vs VSA Y1 請大家比啲意見
Which ESF school?
I gave up VSA for CWBS simply because my girl is very active and she is more suitable for the teaching style in international school. VSA is a bilingual IB school but the students are in fact very local. If you are targeting a real international school, VSA may not be your choice.
作者: Choochootrain 時間: 16-7-3 19:38 標題: 回覆：ESF vs VSA Y1 請大家比啲意見
VSA，佢依幾年進步好多，中英文balance，你讀開vic一定知道VIC 依類係咩敎學模式，比Is多功課，但又比local小，依類學校方間好小
作者: Moonlight819 時間: 16-7-3 22:23 標題: 回覆：ESF vs VSA Y1 請大家比啲意見
ESF as VSF is between LS and IS that it's not good for future studies and don't know whether to take IB or DSE afterwards.
作者: poonseelai 時間: 16-7-3 23:05
Moonlight819 發表於 16-7-3 22:23 
ESF as VSF is between LS and IS that it's not good for future studies and don't know whether to take ...
作者: Danjunior 時間: 16-7-4 00:24
Choochootrain 發表於 16-7-3 19:38
VSA，佢依幾年進步好多，中英文balance，你讀開vic一定知道VIC 依類係咩敎學模式，比Is多功課，但又比local ...
作者: HKTHK 時間: 16-7-4 00:28
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She is an ESF parent who can't decide between local or IS so not sure she is the best person to advise others
作者: Choochootrain 時間: 16-7-4 08:39 標題: 引用：Quote:Choochootrain+發表於+16-7-3+19:38+
原帖由 Danjunior 於 16-07-04 發表
其實兩間真係各有好處，所以好難揀。 我地心中本來係有少少偏向揀VSA， 因為小朋友讀開維幼，升上去會易啲 ...
作者: bforbtec 時間: 16-7-4 08:59
本帖最後由 bforbtec 於 16-7-4 09:06 編輯
兩間輪流讀
Toss a coin , 看那一間讀先
H esf
T Vsa
每間讀一年
之後再決定
或先讀, 你認為較差那間
之後一年, 要轉校
小朋友不肯走便留下
賭大小
作者: HKTHK 時間: 16-7-4 13:57
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To give you a constructive answer, both schools offer the IB DP program so the two programs will be similar in many ways. If you want to know about the competitiveness of their respective IB programs, you can look at scores from the past and also university placements. I have a thread that compares the scores of the various IB programs (http://www.edu-kingdom.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3081558) and you can find university placements on their respective websites. The big difference between the two will be the level of Chinese as VSA is more of a bilingual school and ESF is more of a traditional IS.
作者: Danjunior 時間: 16-7-4 14:09
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Hi HKTHK,
Thanks a lot for your information. I tried to access to the link but it failed. Is there any other ways I can access to the topic?
Thanks!
作者: Danjunior 時間: 16-7-4 14:24
Choochootrain 發表於 16-7-4 08:39
可講下esf係咪得eng好？但如果只有VSA n Esf 我一定選vsa呀, Esf 又冇左政府資助
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Thanks for your comments. As I don't have friends' children studying at either school, I can't have first hand comments about the schools. So i can only search information about both schools from the forums. The negative comments from the mummies in the forums really do make me worry about VSA while there are not many comments I can find about ESF.
作者: Danjunior 時間: 16-7-4 14:29
本帖最後由 Danjunior 於 16-7-4 14:29 編輯
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Hi HKTHK,
yes, I did copy and paste including tid but it still failed. It said "指定的主題不存在或已被刪除或正在被審核，請返回。"
Thanks.
作者: luckyveronique 時間: 16-7-4 14:35 標題: 回覆：Danjunior 的帖子
Here it is. 2015 IB results
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作者: Danjunior 時間: 16-7-4 14:58
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Thank you, luckyveronlque! 
The average scores obtained by ESF and VSA seem very close. But the % of obtaining 40+ is higher in ESF.
作者: HKTHK 時間: 16-7-4 15:08
本帖最後由 HKTHK 於 16-7-4 23:26 編輯
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I moved it back to top of IS forum. You should take a look at all the detailed discussion before making your own judgement. It is not a matter of just how high the score is. There are also extensive discussions on previous years results and i have added a link to those at the bottom of first post
作者: Danjunior 時間: 16-7-4 19:45
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Thanks a lot, HKTHK!
作者: Elsa_chan 時間: 17-6-9 08:01
Danjunior 發表於 16-7-3 11:45
好好彩2間都有offer Y1比我地，而家好頭痛唔知點揀。 大家可以比啲意見嗎？ 謝謝。
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請問最後你簡左邊間？
作者: connieluo 時間: 17-6-9 09:10
siubotze 發表於 16-7-3 15:51
Which ESF school?
I gave up VSA for CWBS simply because my girl is very active and she is more su ...
作者: 13198 時間: 17-6-9 11:07 標題: 回覆樓主
Actually you are comparing 2 different things.
VSA is not a real international since most parents are from hk local school and mainland china.
Although they are IB school, the cultural background is different.
If you want your child to learn Chinese then pick VSA. VSA is an international organized by hk ppl
If you want your child to learn better English, pick esf. ESF is organized by westerners. Most parents are expats, studied overseas and have a home country other than hk. Most parents send their children to study abroad or send them back to their home country.
VSA is a "local" international school.....although they are IB, they target local parents who want to send their children to international school and learn intensive Chinese...
作者: mross38 時間: 17-6-9 11:19 標題: 回覆樓主：
本帖最後由 mross38 於 17-6-9 11:28 編輯
I have children in ESF primary in HK Island. Of course I like the school they are currently attending, but if I were given the offer from VSA, I would go for VSA, mainly because of more opportunity to learn better Chinese. I have friends with children at VSA, I am very impressed with the works they have done. Both also IB schools, but VSA seemed to have done "more" (I am not trying to quantify, and I am not a fan of homework load as well). What I see is more "structured curriculum" delivered by VSA (you got to know IB is NOT a curriculum). ESF school, based on my own experience, unless your child is self motivated and you monitor closely, they are likely to play through the years, they don't have lots of "obligation".
作者: mross38 時間: 17-6-9 11:24 標題: 回覆樓主：
本帖最後由 mross38 於 17-6-9 11:30 編輯
We don't speak lots of Chinese at home (for various reasons), we live in an expat neighbourhood, and most neighbour kids speak English, so y children have very low incentive to speak/ learn Chinese. They don't see they need Chinese at all. So if they were in VSA, they should be "forced" to pick up more Chinese. (Don't ask why didn't I chose local school... well, you know it's a very different thing!)
I don't mind about the "real" or "pretend" international school thing, it's the quality of the delivery that matters more.
Of course some of those with children of lower English proficiency and coming from more Cantonese community/family, they complain about their children not learning "good" English at VSA because of the huge canton speaking student population. Which is also true.
作者: mross38 時間: 17-6-9 11:31
Danjunior 發表於 16-7-3 11:45
好好彩2間都有offer Y1比我地，而家好頭痛唔知點揀。 大家可以比啲意見嗎？ 謝謝。
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How could both offer you Y1? The Y1 (P1) at VSA should be Y2 at ESF
作者: GC0060 時間: 17-6-9 12:22
It's a tough decision. My daughter is in Victoria K2 now but will move to ESF Y1 next year. If you want smaller class size, better teacher/student ratio and Chinese, pick VSA, if you are for better track record and better secondary school / placement , pick ESF (at least for now but I can see VSA will progress quickly in this aspect).
I will definitely miss the Chinese learning from Victoria. And I do believe they have a great curriculum at their Kindergarten level.
作者: GC0060 時間: 17-6-9 12:24
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VSA release 1819 Year 1 offer already.
作者: Moonlight819 時間: 17-6-9 14:13
mross38 發表於 17-6-9 11:31
How could both offer you Y1? The Y1 (P1) at VSA should be Y2 at ESF
I have the same question!
作者: mross38 時間: 17-6-9 14:16
Moonlight819 發表於 17-6-9 14:13
I have the same question!
It's already been answered by the member above (emoji)
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