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國際文憑預科課程(IBDP) -12

熱度 2已有 560 次閱讀 12-4-13 14:17 |個人分類:IB and Pre-IB|系統分類:教育

Why universities biased non-JUPAS?

In another post, a parent raised the above question, here is my replies.

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Some observations on your cases:

1. I agreed some IB students may not be the cream of the cream before IBDP, my son may be an example. But IBDP has totally different approach for studying, not like HKDSE / NSS. Some students may be more suitable in IB and perform much better in studying and examination format and achieve better grades. My son's progress in IB may overtake some friends who perform better than him in G7-9 in the same school. In the IB admission of my son's school, some students were recommended to stick to NSS by the IB coordinator, as they will perform much better in HKDSE.

2. IBDP is more demanding in learning process; I can witness my boy's work load and the quality of outputs. He finished Pre-IB last year and IBDP yr 1 around 2 months, he needs to work long hours for homework (I review his homework, most of them are meaningful and not repetitive drilling exercise.)and more quiz and progress test.... relative to NSS friends in the same grade & school, their progress much faster than NSS. 

"Who move the cheese?"..........

3. In the program, they need to do commentaries, critique, oral presentation, group projects, CAS, TOK, EE.......... Student profile - learn how to learn, inquirer, critical thinking, creativity..... They are nurturing very similar to university students, but in high school. They have higher self-esteem and self confidence and more comfortable in interviews. If I were a professor, similar results, I will take IB students.

4. GCE-AL may be another stories, most of them are studying in UK due to whatever reasons (We may think some of them are the kids of our dear civil servants.....). The standard may be even lower than HKDSE. I can't believe 12% student got A in GCE-AL....... Now, more and more UK boarding and private schools changed to IB schools. Unfortunately, some professors' view on GCE-AL not aligns with reality. 

5. I chatted with a few professors from business & medical schools, they ranked the academic results in descending order like this:
HKALE > IBDP > [HKDSE] > GCE-ALE > HKCEE > IGCSE, 
so more drop outs are from:
EAS (both HKCEE & IGCSE) > GCE-AL > IBDP


6. 知恥近乎勇 - if there is a choice, most parents and kids prefer to study in HK. Of course, some kids are very outstanding and study in feeder schools. But most of them due to relative poorer academic results or other problems. After changing to a new environment, the kid may have a chance to rethink and reshape himself due to teachers, new peer groups and more positive learning environment..... 

7. Even more mature students also understand the financial burden to their families, get better grades and through non-JUPAS get back to local universities, can help them to save HK$400-500k per year. I won't say its unfair if their results is comparable to other qualified kids.



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回覆 vincher 12-4-13 20:03
認同HKDSE 的認受性比
IB低!況且通識科的師資真的令人質疑!當然有些老師進修兩年轉教或兼教通䛊科!(但兩年的進修,在我看來仍非專科專教)更糟的是,有些轉教此科的老師只上了EDB提供的一個短期course!真是...吾不欲覌之矣!
回覆 ANChan59 12-4-21 10:17
vincher: 認同HKDSE 的認受性比
IB低!況且通識科的師資真的令人質疑!當然有些老師進修兩年轉教或兼教通䛊科!(但兩年的進修,在我看來仍非專科專教)更糟的是,有些轉教 ...
通識科跟傳統學科的內容及教學方法有很大差異,師資變成十分重要,加上香港普遍的教學及學習方法,跟通識是背道而馳,成效及成績差是理所當然。
回覆 vincher 12-4-21 20:48
That's way 我想安排兒子跳船的原因之一
回覆 vincher 12-4-22 19:28
今天與丈夫爭辯何時送兒子到外地讀書,我想讀完中三去,易適應;但兒子正值反叛期,他怕冇人監管會更壞...怎樣辦?

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