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[其他] 4所國際學校 非本地生比例未達標

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發表於 23-4-16 07:44 |顯示全部帖子
https://www.stheadline.com/edu-news/3220598/4%E6%89%80%E5%9C%8B%E9%9A%9B%E5%AD%B8%E6%A0%A1-%E9%9D%9E%E6%9C%AC%E5%9C%B0%E7%94%9F%E6%AF%94%E4%BE%8B%E6%9C%AA%E9%81%94%E6%A8%99

似乎本地生入英基會更難?

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發表於 23-4-16 12:38 |顯示全部帖子
penp0319 發表於 23-4-16 07:44
https://www.stheadline.com/edu-news/3220598/4%E6%89%80%E5%9C%8B%E9%9A%9B%E5%AD%B8%E6%A0%A1-%E9%9D%9E ...

其實之前兩個學年唔係話因為COVID無人來港,可以獲得豁免而收多啲本地生嗎?教育局出爾反爾,玩死學校

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發表於 23-4-16 14:26 |顯示全部帖子

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唔怕, 咁多高才申請來港, 好快達標

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2jkidsfather    發表於 23-4-17 12:38

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發表於 23-4-16 15:26 |顯示全部帖子
今年cdnis全线爆满,还有长长的waitlist

估计各大IS情况差不多

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11493
發表於 23-4-16 20:08 |顯示全部帖子
Looks like quite a number of people (both from mainland China and overseas) are coming back this year, so should be able to meet target going forward (meaning more difficult for no fp no debenture parents)

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發表於 23-4-17 09:45 |顯示全部帖子
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有放寬呀...不過只限兩個學年。

https://www.legco.gov.hk/yr2023/english/fc/fc/w_q/edb-e.pdf

(p. 164-166)

Since 2007, school sponsoring bodies (SSBs) that are allocated school premises or sites arerequired by the Education Bureau (EDB) to enter into a service agreement with EDB. Theagreement terms include a requirement on the percentage of non-local students to be admitted.These international schools, which commenced operation on their new campuses from the2009/10 to 2018/19 school years, were required under the service agreement to enroll no lessthan 50% of non-local students, and the percentage has been raised to 70% by EDB since2009. When SSBs submitted proposals for SAE, they acknowledged and agreed that theinformation provided (including the proposed minimum percentage of non-local students tobe admitted) would only be used for SAE applications. We are therefore unable to disclosethe requirement on the percentage of non-local students to be admitted by individualinternational schools.
Amid the COVID-19 epidemic, some non-local students might move back to their hometownswith their families, resulting in a higher than usual dropout rate among non-local students.Therefore, in light of the actual circumstances of individual schools, we temporarily relaxedthe requirement on the percentage of non-local students to a limited extent in the 2020/21 and2021/22 school years for several newly-established international schools. Nevertheless,their student population should still comprise mainly of non-local students.

In the 2021/22 school year, 16 international schools subject to the service agreement wererequired to allocate a percentage ranging from 50% to 85% of school places to non-localstudents. Among them, 3 schools failed to meet the respective student mix requirements.The percentages of non-local students over their total student population ranged from 50% to78%.

In the 2022/23 school year, 16 international schools subject to the service agreement arerequired to allocate a percentage ranging from 50% to 98% of school places to non-localstudents. Among them, 4 schools have failed to meet the respective student mix requirements. The percentages of non-local students over their total student populationranged from 49% to 71%.
According to the above information, 3 international schools that entered into the serviceagreement have failed to meet the student mix requirement for 2 consecutive school years.Moreover, under the phasing-out arrangement of the recurrent government subvention for theEnglish Schools Foundation (ESF), ESF should maintain the student mix as when the relevantarrangement was finalised, i.e. keeping the percentage of non-local students at no less than70% of their overall student population. In the 2021/22 and 2022/23 school years, non-localstudents account for 67% and 65% of ESF’s student population respectively. We will, inaccordance with the existing mechanism, write to the schools concerned to remind them toobserve and comply with the student mix requirement, and urge them to put appropriatemeasures in place to improve the situation.

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heidya    發表於 23-4-18 13:46

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發表於 23-4-17 10:44 |顯示全部帖子
知唔知另外係邊3間

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發表於 23-4-17 12:16 |顯示全部帖子
dem0cracy 發表於 23-4-17 09:45
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有放寬呀...不過只限兩個學年。

本帖最後由 mandy_ng207 於 23-4-17 12:17 編輯

咪就係搞笑囉,咁放寬嗰兩年收返嚟嘅local學生會升班㗎嘛,之後又唔放寬,唔通之後嗰幾年全部收non-local人嗎?學校都有自己嘅收生標準,例如兄弟姊妹要優先收(香港本地學校係必收生添),咁家姐阿哥香港護照,細佬妹都係香港護照,唔通唔收?
學校今次真係比佢哋玩死

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發表於 23-4-17 13:34 |顯示全部帖子
mandy_ng207 發表於 23-4-17 12:16
本帖最後由 mandy_ng207 於 23-4-17 12:17 編輯

咪就係搞笑囉,咁放寬嗰兩年收返嚟嘅local學生會升班㗎 ...

I think the IS will most likely reject a lot of local students to make the total % back to 70%...you can imagine, ESF's is back to 65% at 2022/23. So for them, at least K1/P1 where mass intake happens, they must accept close perhaps 80-90% of non-local students to bring the average back up to 70%...so those local without passport and sibling priority will probably find it very hard...

But flip side is it is only for these 5 schools, the others should be more or less the same.

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發表於 23-4-17 13:56 |顯示全部帖子
simonchan1986 發表於 23-4-17 13:34
I think the IS will most likely reject a lot of local students to make the total % back to 70%...yo ...

ESF schools are considered as a whole, including all its primary and secondary schools. Usually the HK side schools have more westerners but the situation has changed since COVID, now their enrollments cannot compensate for the high percentage of local students admitted at other ESF schools. In order to reach 80% non-local students acceptance across all campuses, I think there might be schools who will reject local passport holders even if they are willing to pay debentures…do you think so?

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發表於 23-4-17 14:08 |顯示全部帖子
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I don't know, I hope not. But if the % requirement is applied to all levels, then yes the intake for local studetns should be minimal...but in the end, it depends on if the EDB will give them more leeway... now it is not like expats cannot find schools, rather a lot of expats are leaving/have left, leading to the drop in the ratio.
I guess it will depends on how many of them will come back...I think as long as the IS can demonstrate to the EDB that they are willing to take on expats, the EDB will not make things too difficult for them and mandate them to take all non-local family only.

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發表於 23-4-17 14:15 |顯示全部帖子
simonchan1986 發表於 23-4-17 14:08
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I don't know, I hope not. But if the % requirement is applied to all levels ...

What if it is a way to deter local families from applying IS, so the local schools won’t face a dramatic drop in student numbers?
Just a wild guess, haha

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發表於 23-4-17 15:03 |顯示全部帖子
mandy_ng207 發表於 23-4-17 14:15
What if it is a way to deter local families from applying IS, so the local schools won’t face a dr ...

咁又唔似,國際學校要收幾多外國護照、幾多本地生喺創立學校嘅時候已經定咗。而且疫情放寬嘅其中一個考慮因素,係因為啲外國人嚟唔到香港。而家疫情過去了,政府assume 所有嘢都復常,包括以為外國家庭,繼續會流入香港。

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15690
發表於 23-4-17 15:06 |顯示全部帖子
其實ESF冇咗政府資助後,而家好多expat都afford唔到,以前幾千一個月,以家小學都12000, 我朋友外國人在香港是classic Musician, 一個養4個,住又點都有d要求,都話供唔起2個ESF. 主要都係D金融,專業人士,MNC, old monies等高入息expats,同當然仲有班IS教職員先afford 到,所以就算多expats回來,而家都要「高收入」個班先係ESF target.
不過香港出名人工高交稅少,睇吓條數點計啦,但外國人一定冇以咁多「紅利」了

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發表於 23-4-17 15:15 |顯示全部帖子
mandy_ng207 發表於 23-4-17 14:15
What if it is a way to deter local families from applying IS, so the local schools won’t face a dr ...

If they can’t get in IS, I think many will go overseas. In the past it’s not easy for local students to change to IS,  for last two years, it’s much easier.

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發表於 23-4-17 15:19 |顯示全部帖子
964000 發表於 23-4-17 15:15
If they can’t get in IS, I think many will go overseas. In the past it’s not easy for local stude ...

That’s why I think the schools will suffer under such policies…those who can pay (with local passports) could not be given a seat, while those who have foreign passports would not be able to pay. How could the schools secure enough income for their teaching and ancillary staffs?
And it didn’t do any good to the local school admissions afterall.

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11493
發表於 23-4-17 15:27 |顯示全部帖子
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I think it is mostly the low-second to third-tiered IS that is going to suffer. For first tiers, which everyone is looking for, it will be BAU

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發表於 23-4-17 16:10 |顯示全部帖子
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Well, you can never know whether there is any hidden agenda....  
What is certain is that with Hong Kong's covid policy the last few years, quite a few expat families left Hong Kong, most may be for good and is quite understandable (it is no joke to relocate a family).  It appears that the authority is expecting those left will move back magically.  


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發表於 23-4-17 16:34 |顯示全部帖子

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近日報導星加玻租金標升, 甚至加2至4成, 有expat話唔排除走, 可能有少部分會返來

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發表於 23-4-17 17:26 |顯示全部帖子
mandy_ng207 發表於 23-4-17 15:19
That’s why I think the schools will suffer under such policies…those who can pay (with local pass ...

ESF won’t suffer too much, just 5% shortage should be filled up easily.
Second/third tiers IS should suffer more, nowadays it’s wiser to set up as “private schools” than as “international schools”.
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