Hkis 好唔好？

Loveyouhaha

Hkis 好唔好？ 小朋友讀幼稚園。 普通話 local 學生。 esf vs hkis 會點樣選擇？身邊冇朋友讀緊hkis, 有冇多啲經驗話我知？thx

fatcni

Hkis is regard as one of the top IS in Hk, but with American culture, very westernised, strong in academics and sports. I cannot comment on ESF as I don’t have personal experience in it. The most big difference is, HKIS is AP school while ESF Is IB school. Go to visit their campus, speak to the teachers and staff, it will help to give you more insight. I do the same years ago and I can narrow down my choices quickly.
Find a school fits your family best is more important then to just find a “good” school.

bettyc123

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Agreed, a ‘good’ school for one child/family may not be a ‘good’ school for your child and your family.
In addition to the curriculum, eca, school facilities etc, the most obvious differentiating factor between the two schools that pop out to me would be the fees. ESF is one of the relatively inexpensive i
IS whilst HKIS is relatively more expensive. Location would be another factor as ESF has various locations. For me, the other most important thing is whether my child/family would get along or fit in with the other families. I would think ESF is more working middle class as it’s cheaper (and middle class local hk people love it too because it’s great bang for your buck/good value - relatively cheap but good IB results). But HKIS would tend to attract richer families/expats.

7jai

bettyc123 發表於 23-3-29 21:39
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Agreed, a ‘good’ school for one child/family may not be a ‘good’ school for  ...

I would say the majority of the more expensive schools all have very rich families.  Those are usually the people who don't need to worry about money and are able to splurge and invest in these types of high-end schools.  CIS, HKIS, GSIS, even CDNIS I would say is getting to that level.
Most average families would be cost concious and would focus more on value for money.  Which means, if your aim is to get your child the best platform to get into a good university in Canada, USA, UK, etc...  Then honestly why would you want to pay so much money to HKIS/CIS/GSIS to yield that result?  It may be more pragmatic to go to a more affordable school and still reach the same result.

If you're aim for your child is for HARVARD, YALE, COLUMBIA, OXFORD, CAMBRIDGE, etc..  All these elitists schools will require you to most likely enrol in those top international schools for a "better" chance.  it's still not guaranteed admissions, but at least you know the probability is a bit higher than if you went to a "cheaper" IS school.

964000

7jai 發表於 23-3-31 09:52
I would say the majority of the more expensive schools all have very rich families.  Those are usual ...

Difference in school fees among these few IS:
Say for primaries school fees:
CIS 270k
GSIS160 K
CDNIS 160 K
HKIS 240K
Even ESF now will be closed to 120 K
(IB curriculum itself is intrinsically expensive, even local schools with IB usually charge around 100K)

964000

Loveyouhaha 發表於 23-3-29 18:10
Hkis 好唔好？ 小朋友讀幼稚園。 普通話 local 學生。 esf vs hkis 會點樣選擇？身邊冇朋友讀緊hkis, 有冇 ...

HKIS is a good school , especially if you target US unis in the future.
For those who haven’t decided where to go yet, IB will be more versatile for HK/UK/US.
That’s my thinking so I will choose ESF over HKIS. Also location is another big concern.

simonchan1986

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For HKIS, I think you are quoting the fee for one semester only. Full year is 200k+

bettyc123

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Both gsis and cdnis is closer to 200k pa for primary if you include the capital levy

7jai

bettyc123 posted on 23-3-31 12:55
and replied to 964000's post

Both gsis and cdnis is closer to 200k pa for primary if you include the capital ...

I did a simple table to compare the tuitions. This is inclusive of all annual levies and non-refundable debts.   

I did not include any debts that were refundable, since you would get the money back anyways and your only opportunity cost is the interest lost and inflation; for locking in that money.

Annual Tuition
	CDNIS		VSA		HKIS		ISF		ESF		CIS
1	200,900		149,600		252,600		251,610		157,100		271,300
2	200,900		149,600		252,600		251,610		119,100		271,300
3	200,900		149,600		252,600		251,610		119,100		271,300
4	202,500		149,600		252,600		251,610		119,100		271,300
5	202,500		149,600		252,600		251,610		119,100		271,300
6	208,050		165,700		258,700		285,850		119,100		271,300
7	222,300		168,100		258,700		285,850		159,300		315,300
8	222,300		168,100		258,700		285,850		137,600		315,300
9	240,500		169,600		283,600		285,850		137,600		315,300
10	240,500		169,600		283,600		285,850		137,600		315,300
11	251,300		210,060		283,600		307,260		137,600		315,300
12	251,300		210,060		284,600		307,260		144,700		319,200
Total	2,643,950		2,009,220		3,174,500		3,301,820		1,607,000		3,523,500
Annual  Avg			220,329		167,435		264,542		275,152		133,917		293,625
Monthly  (10 Months)			22,033		16,744		26,454		27,515		13,392		29,363

poonseelai

7jai 發表於 23-3-31 13:41
I did a simple table to compare the tuitions. This is inclusive of all annual levies and non-refund ...

VSA year 12 is equivalent to ESF year 13.  I think ESF's fees for IBDP (i.e. years 12 and 13) should be the same.
https://www.esf.edu.hk/fees-2022-23-esf-schools/


Also, ESF's current fees for years 8 and above are still net of government subsidies, which will decrease gradually year by year.

964000

simonchan1986 發表於 23-3-31 12:08
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For HKIS, I think you are quoting the fee for one semester only. Full year is 20 ...

OMGyes I was wondering why the fee of HKIS is even lower than ESF.
Let me amend it

964000

bettyc123 發表於 23-3-31 12:55
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Both gsis and cdnis is closer to 200k pa for primary if you include the capital  ...

For GSIS there is option of purchasing the refundable debenture (500k) and no need to pay the capital levy.

iseatrit2013

cis even higher than isf?