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教育王國 討論區 國際學校 FIS vs ESF, which one is better?
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[小學] FIS vs ESF, which one is better?

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發表於 21-11-12 10:46 |顯示全部帖子
dem0cracy 發表於 21-11-12 10:45
咁誇張?TKO or JL?

JL
even Tko,其實大把Chinese都有Passport啦。

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發表於 21-11-12 10:50 |顯示全部帖子
其實呢幾年,間間國際學校都係咁,除咗好多外籍人士嚟唔到香港/走,香港都好多local家長轉校,呢個係無法避免,所以唔覺得有太多culture mix
可能kellett嗰啲會好少少

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發表於 21-11-12 10:54 |顯示全部帖子
wingjaiii 發表於 21-11-12 10:46
JL
even Tko,其實大把Chinese都有Passport啦。

但FIS冇中文學 而且IBDP stats唔靚,向來不受華人歡迎,仲以為可以keep住student mix...

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發表於 21-11-12 10:56 |顯示全部帖子
本來我報TKO, 但收到email問我會唔會轉去柴灣….請教下大家柴灣campus係有乜分別? 因為見通常都係講JL and TKO

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發表於 21-11-12 11:01 |顯示全部帖子
dem0cracy 發表於 21-11-12 10:54
但FIS冇中文學 而且IBDP stats唔靚,向來不受華人歡迎,仲以為可以keep住student mix...
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咁其實佢有得學法文都好吸引嘅

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發表於 21-11-12 11:18 |顯示全部帖子
wingjaiii 發表於 21-11-12 10:40
上年收到class list, 可能得一兩個外籍人士, 其他全部Chinese, 不過冇辦法因為疫情。
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本帖最後由 melobi12 於 21-11-12 11:20 編輯

咁誇張?我女讀緊RC (TKO),我地一班有唔夠40%係Chinese 家庭(單睇個名嘅拼音,當中有普通話拼音,有香港拼音)。
其他仲有好多唔同國籍嘅小朋友呀,Russian, French, Korean, Japanese, Indian, 同埋一啲睇名睇唔出咩國籍嘅歐美家庭。我覺得好diverse呀!

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goodanta 發表於 21-11-12 10:56
本來我報TKO, 但收到email問我會唔會轉去柴灣….請教下大家柴灣campus係有乜分別? 因為見通常都係講JL and  ...

因為以前CW campus係冇international stream。係啱啱落實要調動幾班international stream 過去CW…

最大分別應該係campus facilities… TKO新起,咩都有;JL就分階段翻新中。冇記錯CW好似都會為左新嘅調動進行翻新工程/改建課室。

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發表於 21-11-12 11:29 |顯示全部帖子
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原來係咁…我就係見佢柴灣d facilities好似冇其他個兩間咁好

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發表於 21-11-12 11:31 |顯示全部帖子

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本帖最後由 dem0cracy 於 21-11-12 11:36 編輯

本帖最後由 dem0cracy 於 21-11-12 11:31 編輯

因為教育局要求CW campus都要有international stream,可能係批校舍嘅條件但多年來都冇enforce。

FIS將會用兩年時間過渡到Nursery至Year 1在CW,Year 2-6在JL campus。即係CW的小朋友會升上JL

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發表於 21-11-12 11:49 |顯示全部帖子
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咁cw到時剩係得nursery-yr1? 會唔會留番D 部分French stream在CW呢

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發表於 21-11-12 11:49 |顯示全部帖子
wingjaiii 發表於 21-11-12 10:40
上年收到class list, 可能得一兩個外籍人士, 其他全部Chinese, 不過冇辦法因為疫情。
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When we were in ESF, there were much more Chinese classmates than we are now in FIS.
I guess it depends on campus.
It doesn't bother me on the origins. I bonded well with the parents so far in FIS coz we have similar mentality- chill, giving, easy-going...can go to have drinks and picnics to chilll~~~ not only about academic.

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Wwong071 發表於 21-11-12 11:49
When we were in ESF, there were much more Chinese classmates than we are now in FIS.
I guess it de ...

Yes I agree!
I don’t think that’s a problem too, just to let others know that’s the situation now in most of the IS only.

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發表於 21-11-12 11:54 |顯示全部帖子
goodanta 發表於 21-11-12 09:33
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想問吓FIS係咪淨係英文同數學係British curriculum? 其他科係行IPC? 如果係行IPC每 ...

本帖最後由 melobi12 於 21-11-12 12:05 編輯

關於課程-
我女仲細,所以我只係喺research期間聽講 - 聽講FIS academic 算睇得幾緊。

我未正式接觸IPC,但今年係我女第3年讀IEYC課程了(IEYC係同一課程嘅early years,IPC係primary level)。我自己都幾鍾意呢個課程,我覺得嗰9個personal goals好全面,全部都係我想我小朋友學識同具備嘅條件:
Adaptability, communication, enquiry, morality, cooperation, thoughtfulness, resilience, international mindedness, respect.

呢個課程係好多唔同unit/topic 組成,例如而家topic係toy shop(一個topic可以last 1-2個月),咁首先開始時嘅entry point老師會用啲好特別嘅嘢吸引小朋友,例如喺課室起間toy shop出嚟surprise d小朋友,之後會同小朋友傾下一間toy shop要點營運,從中了解佢地有咩已識/有咩有興趣學,之後就住佢地想做/學嘅嘢,再發展到例如一齊做啲玩具嚟「賣」、一齊decorate 間toy shop、學習分工。

一齊籌備一輪之後,會揾一日叫大家dress up,幫toy shop正式開幕,小朋友分工role play 做staff/customer。諸如此類。

咁喺一個月入面,就住呢個主題,佢地可能會學到數學啦(俾錢、計數)、arts and craft (佈置、整玩具)、French/Mandarin (有啲時候要講French/Mandarin)、writing (要學寫價錢牌、產品名,設計product catalogue, etc)。相信如果係小學課程,就會加入例如science (例如間舖頭要點起出嚟先穩陣之類)。

再加入大量personal goals元素,例如:
Communication, Cooperation ( 分工營運間shop)
Respect(得返一件貨,大家都想買,咁點?俾錢要排隊?)
International mindedness (各國currencies 咩樣?唔同國家嘅toy shop係咪一樣樣?定會有咩特別?)

然後到最後嚟一個總結,toy shop光榮結業,結業等邀請parents去參觀睇下小朋友做左咩、學左咩。

所以其實英文同數學係會融入IPC topic之中,只不過佢基本上係跟British curriculum, 即係有個framework跟住咩時學要學識啲咩咁樣。primary 好似係會獨立再有English class & math class 去學嘅基本嘢(例如grammar? Writing skills?) 呢層我暫時唔知了。但總之一定唔會脫離IPC 個topic。

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melobi12 發表於 21-11-12 11:54
關於課程-
我女仲細,所以我只係喺research期間聽講 - 聽講FIS academic 算睇得幾緊。

本帖最後由 melobi12 於 21-11-12 11:56 編輯

IEYC 同IPC係一個learning process,唔係寫明year 1要學加減數、year 2 要學除數、year 3學分數之類咁樣嘅curriculum。

所以有啲科如English and math, 就要揾一個uk curriculum 去follow。

我理解係咁。

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發表於 21-11-12 11:58 |顯示全部帖子
wingjaiii 發表於 21-11-12 11:52
Yes I agree!
I don’t think that’s a problem too, just to let others know that’s the situation no ...

ya~~totally understand.
i am sure all of us just want the best for our kids. it is good that both schools work out well for our kids.
that's why the question raised by the owner (樓主) is so difficult to answer    
just like asking which two singers are better. the fan of each singer will just think their idol is better

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發表於 21-11-12 12:10 |顯示全部帖子
Wwong071 發表於 21-11-12 11:49
When we were in ESF, there were much more Chinese classmates than we are now in FIS.
I guess it de ...

本帖最後由 melobi12 於 21-11-12 12:17 編輯

Agreed! Sharing the same kind of mindset is so important!

But it really is a blessing to be in such a culturally diverse class. Parents of different ethnicities always go into class to share with the kids how they celebrate their own cultures/festivals.

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發表於 21-11-12 12:23 |顯示全部帖子
dem0cracy 發表於 21-11-12 10:54
但FIS冇中文學 而且IBDP stats唔靚,向來不受華人歡迎,仲以為可以keep住student mix...
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iBDP 我覺得因為少左人係FIS 考IB,因為有Covid 再加上社運!啲人番左home country or hk ppl already sent the kid study overseas before taking IB in HK!

Student mix is good in FIS be honest! And their IPC is very attractive! Currently my kid is studying *building* , and teacher already mention what element will be covered during these two months which included science history geography, art …

For mandarin, I don’t expect international school can help a lot!  As it’s their 2nd language! But ESF has ECA in mandarin so can help for your kids and you can select traditional Chinese per your request!

I cannot comment in ESF but I don’t think a big difference!

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本帖最後由 sabsab122 於 21-11-12 13:23 編輯

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請問如果比較學習氣氛、老師關愛程度、資源配套、校風品德、課程深淺程度,請問以你讀過兩間嚟講,是否都係差唔多?會如何comment?

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發表於 21-11-12 13:42 |顯示全部帖子
dem0cracy 發表於 21-11-12 10:54
但FIS冇中文學 而且IBDP stats唔靚,向來不受華人歡迎,仲以為可以keep住student mix...
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FIS IBDP成績唔標青,一嚟同應考人數少有關,應該唔夠50人考? ESF 考IBDP嘅人數就多好多了,咁「中狀元」機會當然高啲。

二嚟,我估,入得FIS international stream 嘅學生,相信家長係偏向laid back類型,咁我諗相對比較冇去chur小朋友嘅學業成績?反之喺ESF,某幾間學校係特別多local家長,相對上對小朋友成績跟得緊啲.. 可能補習都多啲。(純粹係我認識少數家長嘅感覺,唔係要話ESF唔好,家長對成績有要求係個人選擇嚟)

So far我覺得「冇中文學」依然令好大部份local 家長卻步,TKO campus 個student mix 依然幾好呀。

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發表於 21-11-12 14:27 |顯示全部帖子
goodanta 發表於 21-11-12 11:49
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咁cw到時剩係得nursery-yr1? 會唔會留番D 部分French stream在CW呢 ...

French Stream 的PS, GS, MS (按年齡相等於nursery to Y1)都在柴灣,CP(Y2)或以上在JL.

其實就是類似GSIS Pokfulam vs Peak campus的安排.