即轉IB冇得輸

GIPW

小朋友讀IB 經過今年放榜, 有如下感想：
IB鍾意 essay 反思題目   IB第一年暑假是幾乎他們衝成績的高峰期要寫一篇4000字嘅死真不容易
小朋友time Management要好高因為先生只會set一個死線如果自己冇自制能力一定會miss功課. (不可以臨急抱佛腳)
DSE 或者A-Level小朋友可以憑最後一刻的努力得攞個高嘅分數但係IB work is throughout the year

至於今次IB生考得高分, 不見得有太大好處
: 學校已經有固定位俾Jupas 生同non Jupas生
: 呢次考得好只不過代表多咗Non Jupas 生去爭 non Jupas 位。 通常Non Jupas都會Target同一類學校及學科. 所以條隊到長了
： 如果Target海外學校同海外IB生爭， 咁香港的IB生係有D着數
（ 不過香港IB生不嬲平均分分數高過全球） 只係今次更加高了
： 聽聞今年外國好多神科位都留俾自己國民。 所以神科是難入的

以上是個人感想，不喜勿插。🙏🏻

workingmom

根據歷史 , ib考到44或者45, 只要係正常人, 本地 大學都必收,  仲要畀好多獎學金㖭

Poyau

workingmom 發表於 21-7-18 12:27
根據歷史 , ib考到44或者45, 只要係正常人, 本地 大學都必收,  仲要畀好多獎學金㖭
...

HKU NJ Expected lower boundary
Updated October 12, 2020
IB 31 (護理 中醫 ...) - 43 (MBBS)
GCE AL 2A1B - 3A*1A

https://aal.hku.hk/sites/default/files/Admissions%2520Standards%2520%2528GCEAL%2520IB%2520SAT%2520Indian%2529%25202021.pdf

Poyau

workingmom 發表於 21-7-18 12:27
根據歷史 , ib考到44或者45, 只要係正常人, 本地 大學都必收,  仲要畀好多獎學金㖭
...

CUHK NJ admission scores 供參考

http://admission.cuhk.edu.hk/non-jupas-yr-1/faq.html

Prospective students may refer to reference scores for major international qualifications here.

http://www.cuhk.edu.hk/adm/nonjupas/docs/Reference_Scores.pdf

Please note that admission is not based on public examination results alone, and the overall scores of students admitted to each programme vary from year to year, the information provided is for reference only and should not be used to predict the chance of admission to any programme in subsequent years.

Int'l Qualifications Admissions Score Reference
http://www.cuhk.edu.hk/adm/nonjupas/Admissions_Score_Reference.pdf

Admissions Score Range (25th-75th Percentile)
2020 IB 37-42 | GCE AL 136-168
2019 IB 36-42 | GCE AL 136-160
2018 IB 36-42 | GCE AL 144-160

Poyau

HKU Expected Scores for 2021 JUPAS Admissions

https://admissions.hku.hk/sites/default/files/2021-07/HKU%20JUPAS%20Admissions%202021%20Expected%20Score_0.pdf

workingmom

只要有得讀, 就算轉讀ib要嘥一年時間, 都係物超所值！

workingmom

從本年DSE 放傍結果， 再一次印證 ib同dse係差天共地, 距離真的超闊，而且越來越遠。 有如單車同電單車比賽！
不過這個不公平的 情形 已經持續很多年， 大家不要 奢望未來幾年會有轉變。

easybring

workingmom 發表於 21-7-19 13:01
只要有得讀, 就算轉讀ib要嘥一年時間, 都係物超所值！

你子女轉左未?  
SPCCED, DBS果班, top of the top, 我不會羨慕太多, 只有欣賞！

ABC-DAD

cafeva 發表於 21-7-18 07:45
你都講得啱。如果大學收生見今年IB咁大水份都照收咁真係要轓啦

我好奇下，點解DGS唔開IB嘅？

kaplanmeier

May be a stupid question: would there be any difference in JUPAS and non-JUPAS if every DSE subject of every DSE student were upgraded by one grade (except those who already received 5**)?  After all, university admission in HK is a game of ranking.  Offering a place to the top one in the non-JUPAS queue means rejecting the bottom one in the JUPAS queue.


CityU's Tech Tiger programme requires:

• JUPAS: HKDSE score ≥ 28 in 4 core and 2 elective subjects
• Non-JUPAS: GCEAL ≥ 2A*+1A or IB Diploma score ≥ 38 or other equivalent qualifications
  

and so 28 in 4+2X of DSE = A*A*A in GCE = 38 in IB.  In what sense DSE students are at a disadvantage?  


By the way, when I first met the term 神科 years ago, I thought 醫科 = a course studying 醫學 and so logically 神科 = a course studying 神學.  

Poyau

kaplanmeier 發表於 21-7-23 15:32
May be a stupid question: would there be any difference in JUPAS and non-JUPAS if every DSE subject ...

Eligible students (2021 results):
DSE 4C+2X 28+ 5.2% (1.951/42,028)
IB 40+ 52% (~1,140/2,193)

kaplanmeier

回覆 Poyau 的帖子




Every local student could attend a local school offering the local curriculum and then could sit DSE.  But IB schools are all academically selective, which is true not only locally but worldwide.  This is analogous to the difference in GCSE/A level results between independent schools and state schools in the UK.

IB 40+ worldwide2020: 9701 out of 174360 = 5.56%2021: 15513 out of 170660 = 9.09%


No one would deny that IB had an abnormal grade inflation in 2021, but unless you believe that the inflation would remain, the figures in 2021 would be of little interest to students in coming years.

It may be inspiring to note that in the book Freakonomics, the authors (one of who is a professor in U of Chicago) found statistically that children's academic performance appeared to be less influenced by "what the parents do", and more influenced by "who the parents are" as people.  

workingmom

kaplanmeier 發表於 21-7-23 15:32
May be a stupid question: would there be any difference in JUPAS and non-JUPAS if every DSE subject ...

The simple answer is NO.

Universities in HK has to show others the examination scores of their admitted DSE candidates.  
Many professors are under pressure to produce good results to their administrators.

The simple solution to  solve this problem is to admit less DSE students and then fill up the vacancy by admitting non-JUPAS students.   

This is what HKU Medicine has been doing in the past few years to maintain a high examination score of their successful applicants via JUPAS.  Thereby, they have to admit a very high percentage of non JUPAS applicants, quite contrary to what they have promised years ago.

IB has the trick that there are different levels of examination:  first and second language, standard and higher levels.  Practically speaking, just knowing the total score without knowing the choice of standard vs high level and first vs second language is not very meaningful.

kinder.bb

workingmom 發表於 21-7-19 13:01
只要有得讀, 就算轉讀ib要嘥一年時間, 都係物超所值！

係呢？諗住幾時轉？轉邊間？

kinder.bb

workingmom 發表於 21-7-23 22:40
The simple answer is NO.

Universities in HK has to show others the examination scores of their adm ...

真係唔可以單睇IB分數，就話爭晒DSE 學生入醫科啲位。
IB滿分入不了牛津？  IB升學專家：揀錯科的悲劇
https://topick.hket.com/article/1919127?r=cpstni

IB六科要修讀，三科可選Standard Level （基本程度） ，另外三科可選Higher level （高級程度），簡單黎講， 三個易， 三個難。每科分數最高為7 分， 所以Level 7 即係我地以前講嘅 Grade A。IB 一定要有兩科語文，四科術科。

mcl203

見到有啲奇怪，莫非考DSE只係需要2-3月先開始準備，IB就需要長時間去衝刺，難度就比DSE高好多。考制唔同，DSE學生咪不少S5學期一開始就備戰，晚晚2-3點都大把DSE學生伴讀，IB學生係晚上並不孤單㗎～～～

GreenMaDad

响香港係吾可以直接比較DSE同IB， 因為DSE係係人都要讀，包括讀吾到書嗰班，亦包括以前舊制下會考後已經要出黎做野，升吾上A level嗰班； 响香港謮ib, 本身已經吾係基層家庭學生，最重要係，可以攞到超高分既SPCC, DBS，佢地係揀過，勁既學生先可考ib。所以純以數字比較，會以為ib容易攞高分。

October.

PeterWong2021 發表於 21-7-24 18:02
SPCC, DBS 未有IB 班時，全部學生去考DSE, 都唔會出現一班咁多滿分的狀元啦！  

根本IB 易取高分過DSE 係 ...

幾十年前，未聽過咩係IB既年代，人人考會考，十萬個會考生，都出唔到20個狀元。
你講得冇錯，客觀數據一對比，IB易攞高grade，是十分明顯既事實。
幾年前呢道都有討論過， IB水份高不嬲都係，今年就高到離曬譜。

mcl203

GreenMaDad 發表於 21-7-24 12:49
响香港係吾可以直接比較DSE同IB， 因為DSE係係人都要讀，包括讀吾到書嗰班，亦包括以前舊制下會考後已經要 ...

除非你認為SPCC前列學生自己全揀IB，或者學校一定要佢揀IB。否則，例如，前列頭40位同學，30個選IB，10個選DSE，2年後睇吓佢哋成為狀元嘅百分比係如何，咁都比唔到？～～～

假設，例如今年量寛第一波，30個中有15個成為IB狀元，DSE應該出到5個狀元～～～