IB curriculum versus UK curriculum

細佬Bebe

大家好！

我幫阿仔報緊K1 所以plan緊佢幼稚園同小學既路

想問下大家點睇IB v UK curriculum同分享下經驗？

我係國際學校既新手 我理解係uk curriculum 就分科比較structured 去到考大學時（如果學校有offer) 可以揀igcse / IB

而IB 如果由pyp開始讀 就比較活動教學

我驚幼稚園IB玩慣左轉去uk curriculum 小學佢會悶/唔慣

我自己既prelim plan係uk curriculum up to end of Y6或Y11 到時再轉IB
會有問題嗎？

大家可唔可以話我知兩者既分別同經驗？ 麻煩哂！

columbae

細佬Bebe 發表於 19-9-26 13:54
大家好！

我幫阿仔報緊K1 所以plan緊佢幼稚園同小學既路

esf 都係 pyp, myp, icgse, ibdp, 中間嗰兩年行uk curriculum

出嚟嘅成績 一樣好好

細佬Bebe

columbae 發表於 19-9-26 14:11
esf 都係 pyp, myp, icgse, ibdp, 中間嗰兩年行uk curriculum

出嚟嘅成績 一樣好好

謝謝您的分享 非常感激

我知道esf主要行IB 亦知道佢地IB成績非常好 我都有報

所以我都會concerned 係咪for IB考試 細細個開始就讀IB好

其實我無係而家呢一刻就target考IB 因為我知igcse比較適合文科人考 所以唔想定死一邊

而香港既IS 一半左右係行IB 好多都行uk 而uk curriculum學費又平一截 所以想一開始就唸好 而唔係只考慮學校既名氣

我自己既心儀學校中都有ib v uk之分 所以想知多少少

columbae

細佬Bebe 發表於 19-9-26 14:52
謝謝您的分享 非常感激

我知道esf主要行IB 亦知道佢地IB成績非常好 我都有報

其實學費同學校行ib或者uk curriculum冇直接關係，有好多學校行uk curriculum 學費貴過行ib的

poonseelai

細佬Bebe 發表於 19-9-26 14:52
謝謝您的分享 非常感激

我知道esf主要行IB 亦知道佢地IB成績非常好 我都有報

我孩子自少ib school, 無讀過GCSE, 唔識比較兩者，只可分享多年來所認識的。如果要大路分，ib 係skill base, 着重過程，reflection, GCSE 可以叫knowledge base。例如，gcse 歷史科可能着重背以往資料，我已前香港会考和A level 記性好有着數，ib wants students to think like a historian, 歷史學家從不同資料分析一段歷史，我孩子约中三四時講起當時單元係歷史，問讀緊那段？佢話係當時的Syria,要自己搜集資料分析做報告，有無標準答案？無。

是否一定要由少就讀ib? 又唔一定，香港有一條龍ib; 有小學school base, 初中myp, then ibdp; 有小學school base, 跟住GCSE (会有公開試成績), then ibdp。單看公開試成績唔同路線都差不多。

IBO幾年前比較過由gcse上ibdp and 由myp上ibdp, 各有好處和不足。

細佬Bebe

poonseelai 發表於 19-9-26 21:55
本帖最後由 poonseelai 於 19-9-26 21:56 編輯

我孩子自少ib school, 無讀過GCSE, 唔識比較兩者，只可 ...

多謝你對IB咁詳細既分享

想請問下邊度睇到你講IBO個個比較？

細佬Bebe

columbae 發表於 19-9-26 19:05
其實學費同學校行ib或者uk curriculum冇直接關係，有好多學校行uk curriculum 學費貴過行ib的
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Yes you may be right

in general ib schools are more expensive

At least those ib schools I am interested in

poonseelai

細佬Bebe 發表於 19-9-26 22:12
多謝你對IB咁詳細既分享

想請問下邊度睇到你講IBO個個比較？

https://ibo.org/globalassets/publications/ib-research/myp/comparing-dp-outcomes-with-myp-summary-en.pdf

細佬Bebe

poonseelai 發表於 19-9-26 22:30
https://ibo.org/globalassets/publications/ib-research/myp/comparing-dp-outcomes-with-myp-summary-en. ...

Thank you so much
You are so knowledgeable!

poonseelai

細佬Bebe 發表於 19-9-26 22:51
Thank you so much
You are so knowledgeable!

唔好咁講，我只知一點點，慶幸孩子學校安排information sessions 比家長了解多D

Lalaji

columbae 發表於 19-9-26 14:11
esf 都係 pyp, myp, icgse, ibdp, 中間嗰兩年行uk curriculum

出嚟嘅成績 一樣好好

其實我對esf都好有興趣。 所以都想了解多啲點解間學校咁happy，但係狀元有咁多。 有時都會諗係咪因為esf分校多所以狀元比例上就自然多呢？

而且有唔少本地學校嘅學霸都可能係中學嘅時候考esf。考得成績好嗰啲會唔會其實都係一啲外來精英？

Radiomama

Lalaji 發表於 19-9-27 07:15
其實我對esf都好有興趣。 所以都想了解多啲點解間學校咁happy，但係狀元有咁多。 有時都會諗係咪因為esf分 ...

英基是較affordable的國際學校，受中產歡迎；每年全港二千多人考IB, 英基幾乎佔一半，所以好反映香港的平均表現。
想入讀小學要跟居住地區報校，也講priority, 可能要爬文多了解。

poonseelai

HK students are very good at exams, see the list below:

https://www.ib-schools.com/page. ... mp;isappinstalled=0

Lalaji

poonseelai 發表於 19-9-27 08:22
HK students are very good at exams, see the list below:

https://www.ib-schools.com/page.asp?t=Globa ...

is that fair to say the average score is a better reference to the school academic?

it is not surprised to see GSIS ranked first in hk. I don't know much about FIS, they have very good score indeed.
in contrast, each esf school avg score is not that impressive.

what's the best way to interpret these data

poonseelai

Lalaji 發表於 19-9-27 09:11
is that fair to say the average score is a better reference to the school academic?

it is not sur ...

The average score is only a good starting point.  IB offers different levels for languages and math, and so it will be impossible to make any comparison without knowing the subject choices.  E.g. English level of a student achieving a 7 in English language & literature HL (first language level) is obviously higher than one achieving a 7 in English B HL (second language level).  
Academic result is not the sole factor one would consider when choosing a school.  Each parent would have different expectation on others areas, such as the overall culture and student mix.  

Lalaji

poonseelai 發表於 19-9-27 11:44
The average score is only a good starting point.  IB offers different levels for languages and math, ...

thanks for sharing the insights. I do believe it is hard to assess a school base on IB score in any way.

but at the same time, I find it a bit frustrated when comparing international schools. unlike local schools which have years of reputations and many objective measures to analyse. international school hunting is more about how you feel about the school by school tours or open day, whereas word of mouth is  relatively limited and mostly very positive and therefore usually hard to tell the schools difference.

sometime, I would rather hear some negative feedback so that I know more pros and cons about a school.

細佬Bebe

Lalaji 發表於 19-9-27 11:51
thanks for sharing the insights. I do believe it is hard to assess a school base on IB score in any ...

I share the same feeling
Most parents rate the IS that their kids go to v favourably becox the kids are happy

細佬Bebe

poonseelai 發表於 19-9-26 23:09
唔好咁講，我只知一點點，慶幸孩子學校安排information sessions 比家長了解多D
...

I also made appointment of school tour
But already too late for my kid s k1 application

We decided to send the kid to international school only recently

shadeslayer

Lalaji 發表於 19-9-27 11:51
thanks for sharing the insights. I do believe it is hard to assess a school base on IB score in any ...

unlike local schools which have years of reputations and many objective

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IS curriculums comes in different shape and sizes and they have almost complete freedom to execute curriculum based on their home country.   Therefore fundamentally IS are less comparable because of curriculum, philosophy and implementation diversity.  

To me, one of the best thing about IS is that I can avoid unnecessary comparison.  The fact that a lack of many objective measurements bothers you indicate that You, not the child, may not be suitable for IS.  

shadeslayer

細佬Bebe 發表於 19-9-27 12:21
I share the same feeling
Most parents rate the IS that their kids go to v favourably becox the kid ...

Before IS become popular among local parents, say 20 years ago, most students are foreigners.  They don’t need to compare “anything” and choose because they just choose they home country schools.  UK choose ESF, Germans choose GSIS, Singaporean choose SIS, French choose FIS.  There is no “choosing”.  

Now local parents pouring in to the IS system and start demanding objective metric to compare schools?   

Overanalysing and comparison are the precise reasons I took my daughter out of the local system.  Frankly I hate to see this come to the IS system.  Can you guys leave IS alone?