Thanks all for comments

Julybabe

想請問為什麼這幾年聖心書院banding好像下滑得好犀利由1a跌落1b/1b... 有沒有原因？而且聽聞入U率也下降？同想問每年有冇同學入到神科？thanks

1998Ruby1998

佢只出 3322 同本地大學率，都冇咩大變動，banding 無從判斷....

annie133

1998Ruby1998 發表於 19-7-25 01:19
佢只出 3322 同本地大學率，都冇咩大變動，banding 無從判斷....

通常成績愈好會出得愈detail, 自己演譯。

王家爸爸

Julybabe 發表於 19-7-24 22:01
想請問為什麼這幾年聖心書院banding好像下滑得好犀利  由1a跌落1b/1b... 有沒有原因？而且聽聞入U率也下降 ...

聖心書院從來都唔係 B1A，佢哋既 banding 係有啲下滑，但係唔算好犀利，都仍然係 B1B 左右。

入U率亦都無下降，2017 年仲係近年高位（但係都係只有 6 成）。至於有冇同學入到神科，意義唔大，因為即使係差既學校，都一定有黑天鵝，何況係 B1 學校。

近年入 U 率：

2013	2014	2015	2016	2017	2018
62.2%	55.7%	57.5%	58.4%	64.2%	58.8%

sunflower2000

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這入U率又如何解讀?

Julybabe

王家爸爸 發表於 19-7-25 08:21
聖心書院從來都唔係 B1A，佢哋既 banding 係有啲下滑，但係唔算好犀利，都仍然係 B1B 左右。

入U率亦都無 ...

thanks for the figures.  I have another question - it appears to me that this school is more inclined to the traditional/ local style which means more pushy, then what is the reason why there is slippage in maintaining a good top tier banding? as compared to other less pushy ones say mss? thanks for any views.

王家爸爸

sunflower2000 發表於 19-7-25 08:26
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這入U率又如何解讀?

因為學校公佈既資料唔多，無詳細 DSE 成績做對照，所以唔可能知道入U率既水份有幾多。基於 Occam's Razor 法則，最簡單既假設係 annie133 所講，成績愈好會出得愈詳細，所以我認為應該有水份，但係實際數字點都有四、五成。

王家爸爸

Julybabe 發表於 19-7-25 08:27
thanks for the figures.  I have another question - it appears to me that this school is more inclin ...

All Canossian schools are relatively more rigidly focused on academics and tend to assign way too much homework to their students.
However, recent studies found that the quality of schools is not related to the quantity of homework given and the rigidness of the schools concerned.  That's the reason why MSS has much better DSE results that that of SHCC.  However, many parents, especially those new immigrants, often judged a school by the amount of homework given.

hkpapa852

Julybabe 發表於 19-7-24 22:01
想請問為什麼這幾年聖心書院banding好像下滑得好犀利  由1a跌落1b/1b... 有沒有原因？而且聽聞入U率也下降 ...

任何學校公開試成績都有起跌，何必太在乎什麼B1A/B/C呢？
而且如果本身唔係兩間聖小既學生，恐怕亦唔係咁易入到。

王家爸爸

hkpapa852 發表於 19-7-25 08:54
任何學校公開試成績都有起跌，何必太在乎什麼B1A/B/C呢？
而且如果本身唔係兩間聖小既學生，恐怕亦唔係咁易 ...

兩間聖小勁既學生先入到，所以其實學校收生質素應該相當高，但係高收生質素反映唔到係 DSE 成績度，原因係嘜？

Julybabe

王家爸爸 發表於 19-7-25 08:53
All Canossian schools are relatively more rigidly focused on academics and tend to assign way too mu ...

thanks again, so what you are saying is students from these Canossian schools are preoccupied/ overloaded with homework, hence less time for quality study?

if that's the case, why then st Mary's can maintain b1a under the same Canossian community ? thanks

Julybabe

王家爸爸 發表於 19-7-25 08:59
兩間聖小勁既學生先入到，所以其實學校收生質素應該相當高，但係高收生質素反映唔到係 DSE 成績度，原因係 ...

exactly! my impression is this school is a pushy one (correct if I'm wrong) however the way they teach doesn't seem to be effective as reflected by the results. so what has gone wrong is the issue which I'm trying to figure out..

hkpapa852

王家爸爸 發表於 19-7-25 08:59
兩間聖小勁既學生先入到，所以其實學校收生質素應該相當高，但係高收生質素反映唔到係 DSE 成績度，原因係 ...

現實學校無公佈過任何DSE成績, 好與唔好, 只係大家感覺而己

只係好好奇, 點解咁多年D家長都可以咁齊心, 連火點風聲都漏唔到出街

Julybabe

hkpapa852 發表於 19-7-25 09:14
現實學校無公佈過任何DSE成績, 好與唔好, 只係大家感覺而己

只係好好奇, 點解咁多年D家長都可以咁齊心, 連 ...

well then.. this supports the thread above which says 成績吾好先無details... still if anyone can help me rationalize why a pushy school yet declining/declined results please? thanks again all

王家爸爸

Julybabe 發表於 19-7-25 09:01
thanks again, so what you are saying is students from these Canossian schools are preoccupied/ over ...

I really don't know.  St. Mary's isn't transparent enough with their DSE results, so it is difficult to know the real situation. But from the school reports, it said "172 students took part in HKDSE 2018.  97.1% of students met the minimum entrance requirement for local Bachelor degree courses". Therefore, the only firm conclusion we can draw is St. Mary's did a good job of "catering for learner differences".

hkpapa852

Julybabe 發表於 19-7-25 09:17
本帖最後由 Julybabe 於 19-7-25 09:18 編輯

well then.. this supports the thread above which says  ...

其實QC咁多年都係無主動公佈公開試成績, 只係有家長開心share學校既"非公開"既資料

所以學校唔公佈公開試成績, 係咪一定代表差呢?

DBS早幾年乜都唔公佈, 到近年有少許資料公佈, 其實反而成績係仲差咗.......

王家爸爸

hkpapa852 發表於 19-7-25 09:14
現實學校無公佈過任何DSE成績, 好與唔好, 只係大家感覺而己

只係好好奇, 點解咁多年D家長都可以咁齊心, 連 ...

但係學校有公佈入U率，所以可以估到DSE成績最差係點。

Julybabe

王家爸爸 發表於 19-7-25 09:23
I really don't know.  St. Mary's isn't transparent enough with their DSE results, so it is difficult ...

oh have these schools not publicized their public exam results? then what was the basis for these people who rank them according to school banding?

I thought there exists some sort of publicly accessible statistics (of each secondary school in hk), then ppl can make reference to it and analyze, and then to come up with banding/ ranking for comparison..

annie133

王家爸爸 發表於 19-7-25 08:21
聖心書院從來都唔係 B1A，佢哋既 banding 係有啲下滑，但係唔算好犀利，都仍然係 B1B 左右。

入U率亦都無 ...

入u率是八大定三大定全部（包外國）？

Julybabe

王家爸爸 發表於 19-7-25 09:26
但係學校有公佈入U率，所以可以估到DSE成績最差係點。

入U rate is the 3 top uni or all of them (8 is it in hk noawadays?)

with reference to the figures given above, if there is less then 60% going to all of the available uni in hk including poly bu etc.... then sacred heart results is pretty daunting to me