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回覆 CM2020 的帖子
I read through web sites of several IS, all have % of students going to US colleges much higher than the % of students who are American citizens, e.g 80% of HKIS went to US (51% American citizen), 15% of ESF students went to US (7% US citizens), 50% CIS students went to US (no figure on US citizenship, but certainly well below 50%). Seems many students are wiling to give some sacrifice to go to US despite being in a disadvantaged position. Do you know why? (The reason as I can see is the parents like and trust the US education system and wish their kids to take the liberal art education there). Wouldn't it be better for a student to go to say Oxbridge, LSE, Imperial etc instead of settling at a lower tier US college? (I do not know what is your definition of a lower tier US college, outside top 50 or outside top 25? In my personal view, Oxbridge is definitely better than, a college outside top 25. However, if one has the quality to be admitted by LSE, Imperial or UCL, he should have the quality to be admitted by a top 25 US college. It boils down to the education system in which the parents want their kids to receive education. There is no right or wrong whether you choose, for example LSE or Georgetown or Washington U at St. Louis. It is entirely a personal choice).
Regarding disadvantages to non-US citizens, what's your best guess of how much is it? (As far as I know, the top 25 or even top 30 US colleges admitted students with reference to their nationality. If you are not an US citizen or a green card holder, then you have to be considered in the pool of international students. From the websites, one may find that the top 20 US colleges usually allocate about 8% to 10% of the spots to the international student pool. Amongst the international pool, if you are a Canadian or a Mexican, your chance will be higher than other international applicants.) Say, to get to the same college, how many points higher the SAT score has to be? (This is a tricky question because if you are an international students, you are competing with other international applicants. Further as we can see, no single factor would guarantee your admission (unless you are a development office case). The colleges take a holistic approach to consider the applications, i.e. SAT& AP results, GPA, leadership, social service, any special skill, any academic honor (such as the gold medal of Intel Science competition or special skill (i.e. member of the Olympic team)). Or, if say top 20% of the students at HKIS with US citizenship or green cards can get to colleges of a certain tier, what's the corresponding % for non-US citizens, are we talking about something like 15%, 10%, 5% or even lower? (My personal guess is that if 20 students of HKIS were admitted to a top 20 US colleges, about 8 to 9 of them were non-US citizens.) I know it is impossible for anyone to know, but perhaps your best guess, or your feel? (Before 2012, it is possible to know because the placements of the students were published in the intranet. The parents had access to the intranet. The parents could, if they wished, find out the nationality of the students within the school's resources. However, since 2012 probably due to the Protection of Personal Data legislation, the school did not publish the placements of the graduation class. I have to caution that I am outdated.) |
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