劍擊世界一姐江旻憓是史丹福學霸 開明媽媽作最強後盾圓劍.

JustAParent

shadeslayer 發表於 19-3-16 12:30
據說，此女是國際學校生，聰明伶俐，口才了得，絕非死讀書之輩。父母又係頂級名校校友，孩子多年努力PG44  ...

我之前都提過，英國有三所大學，入學成功率是無法預測的。

打擊甚大，全因當初自負過高。

shadeslayer

Osiana 發表於 19-3-16 10:59
This is out of the box thinking!
I guess maybe he meant I didn't give a damn to this interview.  He  ...

An Oxbridge interview is to test the student too see if they would thrive in an education environment like Oxbridge.  One defining feature of Oxbridge education is the tutorial system where students will be coached in private by the professors who “interview” the students.  

By walking out the student demonstrated that he did not work well with the professors who will be tutoring him/her.

I don’t see how this is out of the box thinking.  

I don’t even know if walking out on an interview is “courage” or “arrogance” or “recklessness”.

shadeslayer

JustAParent 發表於 19-3-16 12:50
我之前都提過，英國有三所大學，入學成功率是無法預測的。

打擊甚大，全因當初自負過高。

馬後砲看，當然是自負過高。

但當孩子是人生勝利組，家族顯赫，人又聰明伶俐，PG44，有邊個會唔自負。

當故事看好了。

JustAParent

shadeslayer 發表於 19-3-16 13:05
馬後砲看，當然是自負過高。

但當孩子是人生勝利組，家族顯赫，人又聰明伶俐，PG44，有邊個會唔自負。

我唔係馬後炮，報Oxbridge/LSE生死難測係UCAS常識吧。

我唔知你朋友家族有多顯赫，係姓李姓郭姓方的名門望族？否則有錢人，IB PG45，DSE PG49既我都識幾個，最後一樣全軍覆沒。反而幾個DSE考3X分，香港醫學院門口都望唔到，行了入劍橋牛津。

作為父母，如果仔女自負過高，就要好好manage佢期望。人生勝利組？Come on ... too simple, sometimes naive。

MrBeast

shadeslayer 發表於 19-3-16 13:05
馬後砲看，當然是自負過高。

但當孩子是人生勝利組，家族顯赫，人又聰明伶俐，PG44，有邊個會唔自負。

其實點解佢唔直接contact adminision office to find out why?

JustAParent

MrBeast 發表於 19-3-16 13:53
其實點解佢唔直接contact adminision office to find out why?

如果我冇記錯，有interview既，收唔收學生都可以要求written report。連interview都冇，好似大學唔會比reason。

MrBeast

JustAParent 發表於 19-3-16 13:56
如果我冇記錯，有interview既，收唔收學生都可以要求written report。連interview都冇，好似大學唔會比rea ...

但是如果成績達標而冇interview, 雖然人地唔係一定要答，但問下冇壞，正所謂dont ask dont get. 除時傾下倾下有轉機

shadeslayer

JustAParent 發表於 19-3-16 13:30
我唔係馬後炮，報Oxbridge/LSE生死難測係UCAS常識吧。

我唔知你朋友家族有多顯赫，係姓李姓郭姓方的名門 ...

我說的家族顯赫，不是計有幾多錢咁簡單。父母對她的期望也高。

牛津出名不用成績高，average condition offer for Law (記憶中）只是38分，劍橋 41分。但要明白 condition offer 低三分，不代表入學的學生成績低三分。

識一個學生今年牛津亦收佢，PG 都只係 39。

雖然不用成績絶頂，但絶頂成績的學生也不見？是否 LNAT，LNAT 有幾差，是否發瘟，別人不得而知。

人生勝利組，是好主觀。當有人說CU畢業2萬一個月是人生勝利組，你說此女的背景能力「不是」人生勝利組，是 naive and simple。。。，也有你自由。我認為你咁定義人生勝利組，是無意思的荷刻，也有我自由。

shadeslayer

MrBeast 發表於 19-3-16 13:53
其實點解佢唔直接contact adminision office to find out why?

問左，大學只答沒有攪錯，係 outright reject.  

JustAParent

MrBeast 發表於 19-3-16 14:00
但是如果成績達標而冇interview, 雖然人地唔係一定要答，但問下冇壞，正所謂dont ask dont get. 除時傾下 ...

你說得對，當日問下大學，又真係冇壞既。

Osiana

shadeslayer 發表於 19-3-16 12:54
An Oxbridge interview is to test the student too see if they would thrive in an education environme ...

i dont know how the interviewee excuted his reply so that he could get accepted.  He is definitely smart to think of it as courage.  
I think Oxbridge values the students to challenge their professors, voice out their ideas which is very different from our Chinese culture.  the respect is not given because of their status as professors.  They earn reapect from their students.  

shadeslayer

Osiana 發表於 19-3-16 16:02
i dont know how the interviewee excuted his reply so that he could get accepted.  He is definitely  ...

The student walked out not because he has a different view with the professor.   You mistaken basic etiquette with dare to challenge.  Holding ones view without good reasons is stupidity.  The only thing the walk-our student challenge was his own future.

It is definitely childish to think just walking out from an Oxbridge interview and refuse to engage in an intellectual exchange is a display of courage.  

And you oversimplified culture in HK and particularly in regards to IS students.

Osiana

shadeslayer 發表於 19-3-16 16:17
The student walked out not because he has a different view with the professor.  You mistaken basic  ...

I am not sure why you are so sour about this case.  we are not sure why exactly this truly act out.  This is simplified in the story in what I read bu the result is he got offer.  instead.of criticizing the student's manner, I appreciate he had the courage to take the risk to make a statement.   When he only had a split of second to decide how to answer the question witty, he did a very good job indeed.  
I am not talking about IS culture.  this was a case in oxbridge which has nothing to do with HK IS culture.  

shadeslayer

Osiana 發表於 19-3-16 16:28
I am not sure why you are so sour about this case.  we are not sure why exactly this truly act out.  ...

Sour?

I am responding to you, not the student.  

Listen, I am rejecting the idea that refusing to engage in an interview is a good interview.

I am saying if anyone think just because a student is accepted into Oxford, everything he or she did must be genius, it is a naive thinking.  

Jane1983

JustAParent 發表於 19-3-16 13:30
我唔係馬後炮，報Oxbridge/LSE生死難測係UCAS常識吧。

我唔知你朋友家族有多顯赫，係姓李姓郭姓方的名門 ...

而家普遍家庭富裕咗，父母教育水平高咗，生得少，所以好多係好錫，將小朋友捧到好高好高，遠遠超過佢的實際能力。咁佢長大後，點同世界接軌？真係跌到佢焦頭爛額

shadeslayer

Jane1983 發表於 19-3-16 17:30
而家普遍家庭富裕咗，父母教育水平高咗，生得少，所以好多係好錫，將小朋友捧到好高好高，遠遠超過佢的實 ...

牛津只是一間好大學。世界上還有好多好大學。

呢個 PG44 女孩據說絕對係叻女，入唔入牛津，也不愁與世界接軌。

Osiana

shadeslayer 發表於 19-3-16 17:08
Sour?

I am responding to you, not the student.  

****

Jane1983

shadeslayer 發表於 19-3-16 17:34
牛津只是一間好大學。世界上還有好多好大學。

呢個 PG44 女孩據說絕對係叻女，入唔入牛津，也不愁與世界 ...

我唔係講佢。佢家世顯貴，自己讀書叻，我都講過有實力呢間唔掂都仲有其他。

我係講身邊一些例子，父母家人吹捧都離晒地，小朋友自信到唔正常。有d屋企有生意，可以比份工就還可。有d係upper middle class，佢終究要出來打工，難搞

poonseelai

Jane1983 發表於 19-3-16 17:30
而家普遍家庭富裕咗，父母教育水平高咗，生得少，所以好多係好錫，將小朋友捧到好高好高，遠遠超過佢的實 ...

朋友孩子今年加拿大大學畢業，父母安排畢業後一起去旅行，其實年年都返香港又去旅行，孩子之前在加拿大見工，人地問6至8月是否一定要去旅行，我覺得問題好正常，我公司6至8月好忙，個同學返到我都会考慮先，但我朋友好嬲，話人地問題無聊，唔make sense。唉，佢哋都係一般中產，孩子日後也要找工作，我唔識比反應佢

Jane1983

poonseelai 發表於 19-3-16 18:28
朋友孩子今年加拿大大學畢業，父母安排畢業後一起去旅行，其實年年都返香港又去旅行，孩子之前在加拿大見 ...

係唔識比反應   ，全世界都要呵住寳貝仔先合理。