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學歷通脹 就業配對組織:碩士爭學士工

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本帖最後由 elbar 於 19-1-25 17:06 編輯

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酒店前台多聘大學生  學歷高流失亦高


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「中學學歷」快餐店經理  大學生照求職


另一參展的香港遊樂場協會社工張姑娘說,近年不少本地及海外大專院校合辦「銜接學位」(Top-up Degree)課程,「僱主眼中大學生成行成市」,「學歷通脹」問題浮面,「公務員及紀律部隊職位搶手,已是碩士跟學士競爭,在私人機構亦很明顯」。張說曾接觸個案,有來自基層青年讀完「銜接學位」課程,背負學債及家中經濟壓力,「見到連鎖快餐店經理職位,月入都有過萬,也會求職」。張姑娘強調行行出狀元,首要考慮個人興趣,「如份份工做不長,對履歷也不好」。


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「碩士爭學士做的工」

原本碩士的工作是什麼?

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nkd 發表於 19-1-25 17:58
「碩士爭學士做的工」

原本碩士的工作是什麼?
原本碩士的工作是做.......埋個博士......掛

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nkd 發表於 19-1-25 17:58
「碩士爭學士做的工」

原本碩士的工作是什麼?

In the past I heard some say Taught Master degrees are for those who have not got a good Bachelor degree.  
The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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shadeslayer 發表於 19-1-25 22:45
In the past I heard some say Taught Master degrees are for those who have not got a good Bachelor d ...

本帖最後由 planetearth 於 19-1-26 00:04 編輯

香港Taught Master degrees意思不大,想 冠個虛名無防,想有料到就罷了。( 恕我直言,希望不得罪人多,本人讀過,明顯低於期望)

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研究碩士學歷本身定位用於培育未來的從事大學教育或高等研究人士去讀的。

授課碩士學歷,理應是給持有本科相關學歷的人士深造或在職專修,期望去處理一些專業上更深入艱的課題或工作。現在卻淪為高等興趣班。

按理,讀授課碩士的,應該是在職的。但依家大學生找不到工作,畢業就失業,便繼續讀上去。出嚟搵工仍是一張白紙。學識與工作經驗脫軌。

純粹講事實,如有不同意,請自行與有此思想的人士討論,不要回覆我。


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本帖最後由 nkd 於 19-1-28 20:25 編輯


OK. Thanks

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回覆樓主

我識讀研究碩士的朋友,多數當初目標是研究博士,可惜力有不隷或者生不逢時,所以只好拿個安慰奨 。 我同期只有20% 攞到博士,40%研究碩士,40%中途放棄!

當研究博士數目多咗 N 倍,靠個 MPhil 去教書及研究,前路茫茫,行人止步!
God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

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ANChan59 發表於 19-2-4 09:48
我識讀研究碩士的朋友,多數當初目標是研究博士,可惜力有不隷或者生不逢時,所以只好拿個安慰奨 。 ...

完成 PhD 之後能否喺大專院校教學或做研究好睇人脈,之後能否喺 well-known journal 出文視乎你能否同知名學者出文 (有博士班同學未畢業已同師傅出文,又有人畢業論文攞獎都因無人脈無法登上 academic journal),要出過一定數目嘅文先至可以續約。
同大學生爭咪算好,我當年 MPhil 畢業後出返嚟商界揾工係要同 F.7 畢業生爭。

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YolandaTam 發表於 19-2-5 15:26
完成 PhD 之後能否喺大專院校教學或做研究好睇人脈,之後能否喺 well-known journal 出文視乎你能否同知名 ...

我只是講 MPhil 冇乜市場而已。


God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

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ANChan59 發表於 19-2-5 15:28
我只是講 MPhil 冇乜市場而已。

明呀,我同意 c hing 你㗎。上帖最尾嗰段就係和應你話前路茫茫。 MPhil 又好 PhD 也罷,如果為興趣或還個心願嘅話係好好嘅經驗,足以令人不枉此生;但以揾食角度就實在好難講,揾到教席或入 think tank 嘅,求仁得仁,如果出返嚟商界,要準備當嗰幾年係發咗場夢,從頭開始。

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ANChan59 發表於 19-2-5 15:28
我只是講 MPhil 冇乜市場而已。

I would consider MPhil in much better light in employment than MSc.
The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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YolandaTam 發表於 19-2-5 15:44
明呀,我同意 c hing 你㗎。上帖最尾嗰段就係和應你話前路茫茫。 MPhil 又好 PhD 也罷,如果為興趣或還個 ...

PhD more depends on the supervisor reputation and connections, highly affects his students destiny.
God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

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shadeslayer 發表於 19-2-5 18:56
I would consider MPhil in much better light in employment than MSc.

All depends on industries and job nature.

For taught master programs are too many.
God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

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ANChan59 發表於 19-2-5 21:03
PhD more depends on the supervisor reputation and connections, highly affects his students destiny. ...

100% agree.

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shadeslayer 發表於 19-2-5 18:56
I would consider MPhil in much better light in employment than MSc.

Yes agree, MPhil in Arts, Sciences might have better prospect than MA or MSc. At least they can teach in secondary schools. For Social Sciences, that ’s a totally different story, we can only teach LS if we apply for positions in secondary schools.

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ANChan59 發表於 19-2-5 21:06
All depends on industries and job nature.

For taught master programs are too many.

Real MPhil from real uni means something.  Many MSc does not mean much other than he or she went to more lectures and passed exams.  

I am talking about this in general, not all cases.  And not in terms of getting a faculty position in university or schools.  
The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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YolandaTam 發表於 19-2-5 22:01
Yes agree, MPhil in Arts, Sciences might have better prospect than MA or MSc. At least they can tea ...

I am not taking about getting faculty positions in unis.
The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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shadeslayer 發表於 19-2-5 22:34
I am not taking about getting faculty positions in unis.

本帖最後由 YolandaTam 於 19-2-5 23:19 編輯

I know, I‘m also not talking about faculty positions anymore... what I‘m trying to say is MPhil in Social Sciences are treated as equals to ordinary Bachelor graduates in business sector.And the possibility of getting a secondary school teaching position is lower than that of MPhils graduated from Arts faculty or Science faculty.Out of 10+ Mphil or PhD graduates I got to know, only 1 got teaching position in the school he had taught before.For others, most went to think tanks, pursue further study or hold an honory position in the research centre organized by his supervisor.Only me went ti business sector.

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YolandaTam 發表於 19-2-5 23:19
本帖最後由 YolandaTam 於 19-2-5 23:19 編輯

I know, I‘m also not talking about faculty positions ...

Your previous email which I responded to talked exclusively about faculty positions in unis and schools.  

This reply you said you were not talking about faculty positions?    But rest of the message you still continued to talk about positions in unis and schools.  

I am just saying MPhil from a real uni needs a lot more to graduate than MSc MA etc.  Because MPhil means something, I would view them in favourable light compared to MSc in a non academic/teaching setting.  
The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.
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