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DSS started in 1990, not under SAR government.

Don't treat "Education System" and "Democracy" as root causes or solutions, they are not super drugs or super poisons.
God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

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ANChan59 發表於 18-12-7 09:42
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"自己怎看雙非學生等如 aussie 看 oversea student"

原來陳sir也是這樣的人。怪不得我昨晚剛在BK才看到兩個為著每天150人,而認為年輕人不再有前途的人。
現在很多上了岸的父母,都抵不住自己仔女未能走平坦大路。不斷在分析社會有什麼不公平,香港有甚麼被蠶食?

以前我細個的時候,也有大陸偷渡呀!也有什麼國家難民呀!我父母可沒有叫我不要交稅去養他們。這個世界從來不公平,沒什麼好去想的,除非你是當權者。整天想著這些,只會令子女更覺自己可憐,更覺自己被不公平對待。

我只教兒子如何解決自己困難,如何努力向上,別人的事,理來幹啥?

社會如果真的比從前艱難,不就是應該更加努力嗎?

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IloveJJ 發表於 18-12-7 09:50
原來陳sir也是這樣的人。怪不得我昨晚剛在BK才看到兩個為著每天150人,而認為年輕人不再有前途的人。
現在 ...
陳sir仔已上岸啦,300个落黎都無关痛痒~~
大环境差左,更努力……正確既,只不过更努力後成果係咪成正比?禁先係令人洩氣既地方。

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ANChan59 發表於 18-12-7 09:45
Have a guess? Economies, job opportunities, competitions, mindset of parents .....

I think you kn ...

我不懂,我只覺得現在有很多年青人工作態度差,竟然有人出帖鬧公司9點後唔可以食早餐係無人情味!這不是常識嗎?
也從親戚中得知,有年青人一工作便要結婚買樓,為何不先拼十年呢?
也知道很多年青人飲starbucks珍珠奶茶,我覺得好貴。
我老公做銀行,佢哋請既fresh grad人工不少,但我問過佢,有無報紙講嗰啲年青人,佢話無!都是正正常常的。那我不知是否大銀行肯俾錢就請到質素好的年青人了!

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Yanamami 發表於 18-12-7 09:53
陳sir仔已上岸啦,300个落黎都無关痛痒~~
大环境差左,更努力……正確既,只不过更努力後成果係咪成正比? ...

不用去想吧?
我教仔努力是不計後果的,你不知道你今天的努力,會帶來什麼後果。
講自己十幾歲的暑期工經驗,我响銅鑼灣3C會西餐做侍應。雖然無經驗,但總算勤奮。暑期將完,竟有位會員原來是開補習社的,就叫我去做補習老師。也有位年青會員,很花心思去追求我。我想,在工作前,不會知有這些結果吧?

就像那些藝人歌手,往往都要經歷好長而不知結果既付出,如果一開始便計較付出,那有結果呢?

陳sir個仔對我來說還不算上岸。我從來唔會認為讀書就是一個人的價值。

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ANChan59 發表於 18-12-7 09:42
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"自己怎看雙非學生等如 aussie 看 oversea student"

interesting .
however , I suggest you to think again the origin of 150 .

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Yanamami 發表於 18-12-7 09:48
我都係Canberra同Sydney生活过,觉得同佢地幾合得黎,寄宿成層得三两个亞洲人,我就觉得佢地好照顧我~:funn ...
Because your character is outgoing and like to make friends, you are much easier to settle down and make many local friends.

In my good days in UK, some students and locals (BBC) always complained the British discriminated them. Be honest, most of them were not mingle with them, all Chinese or HKese grouped together, watching TVB soap opera, Casino, fried salty fish in the kitchen, singing Karaoke in the Dorm .....


I like to mingle with different people, not just British, also Scans, Africans, N/S Americans, we watched the news together, we expressed our views from different perspectives, cooked different dishes and shared, of course my favourite - playing soccer.


Some have hardship in overseas in the past, just like the mainlanders nowadays in overseas. If you don't in their circle, you are out.


********

Relationship is give and take.


This few years, I stayed in clients homes instead of hotels, I joined them for Easter and ThanksGiving celebration. Because, when they are around in HK and China, I treat them as family members.
God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

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Yanamami 發表於 18-12-7 09:53
陳sir仔已上岸啦,300个落黎都無关痛痒~~
大环境差左,更努力……正確既,只不过更努力後成果係咪成正比? ...

本帖最後由 IloveJJ 於 18-12-7 10:06 編輯

300個落嚟都無關痛癢…
我正想講這樣。
我告訴那些人,我不關心他們用了那些福利,那對我有什麼關係?我生仔睇醫生都去私家的,住私樓,現在孩子讀學卷幼稚園和津小,無任何書簿午飯活動津貼。

我無希望自己要去政府睇醫生,亦無諗過自己或自己仔女要去住公屋。我哋公屋木屋大的,目標就係住私樓,還想去爭福利?

那些人話,你交了稅,就去養了他們。我只可以話,無論有無他們,我都要交稅,亦一樣不想用福利。那政府用了錢來做什麼,關我咩事呢?難道我就日日計住嗰啲內地家長,可以飲茶讀書唔駛錢?然後又叫老公搵少點,好讓一家享用福利嗎?

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本帖最後由 artroboy 於 18-12-7 10:12 編輯
Yanamami 發表於 18-12-7 09:53
陳sir仔已上岸啦,300个落黎都無关痛痒~~
大环境差左,更努力……正確既,只不过更努力後成果係咪成正比? ...

好欣賞陳sir 。佢其實已經係上哂岸,仔女出哂身,享受緊香港最好成果既一批人。還可以咁貼地為香港年青人發聲。

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ANChan59 發表於 18-12-7 09:44
Damage has been done, very difficult to turn around even removed the ex-CE of HK.

嗰150個團聚配額,以前香港好景,無乜影響;後來經過金融風暴再加政策失誤,就業困難咗,香港已是中國特區,形勢比人強,處處受制肘,徒呼荷荷。

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ANChan59發表於18-12-7 09:34
對不起,只是為了方便和用英文回复。
從你的語氣,我可以告訴你是其中一個......
勿沉迷黃金年代,台灣的22K,韓國年青人入不到大公司,日本的迷失,新加坡無自由小發展,英美中下階層亦有迷失年青人出現,呢個問題本身全球化,不只香港有

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Cliokohonda 發表於 18-12-7 10:01
interesting .
however , I suggest you to think again the origin of 150 .
You are wrong again ! Don't blinded by government official's claim.

Now most are adults, over age 18 and one settle down, the whole family can come to HK too. Mainland is so prosperous, they can go back to China and family united, HK is only one of the options.



Give you a real example, Tsoi Kwan Lung who killed the senior imagination officer in Immigration Dept, after serving the imprisonment and sent back to mainland, also approved by mainland authority and immigrated to HK. Have you heard about any country approved murderer to their country......


Anyway, I don't know from legal immigration procedure.......
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IloveJJ 發表於 18-12-7 09:50
原來陳sir也是這樣的人。怪不得我昨晚剛在BK才看到兩個為著每天150人,而認為年輕人不再有前途的人。
現在 ...
Don't put your words in my mouth.  I don't like the BK atmosphere and way of discussion.

My parents also illegal immigrants from mainland, like you and your family.


After 40 years, shall we re-examine the old practices. Its a humble request.


You know my son also start slow and also receiving low pay job but high prospect career. We all teach our kids with basic and traditional doctrine, no difference.

******

Don't jump into conclusion after my replies to different web pals.

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ANChan59 發表於 18-12-7 10:19
Don't put your words in my mouth.  I don't like the BK atmosphere and way of discussion.

My parents ...

咁你叫我guess嘛!我咪guess囉!

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IloveJJ 發表於 18-12-7 09:55
我不懂,我只覺得現在有很多年青人工作態度差,竟然有人出帖鬧公司9點後唔可以食早餐係無人情味!這不是常 ...

現在有很多年青人工作態度差,竟然有人出帖鬧公司9點後唔可以食早餐係無人情味!這不是常識嗎?
(對,這是家教。)
也從親戚中得知,有年青人一工作便要結婚買樓,為何不先拼十年呢?
(有部份不自量力,有不少是父母的意思。阿仔知道我不會買給他!)
也知道很多年青人飲starbucks珍珠奶茶,我覺得好貴。
(又是家教及理財,所以我回你已經講了父母)
我老公做銀行,佢哋請既fresh grad人工不少,但我問過佢,有無報紙講嗰啲年青人,佢話無!都是正正常常的。那我不知是否大銀行肯俾錢就請到質素好的年青人了!
(不同銀行不同職位,人工差異很大,MT,CS的分別。阿仔offer 最高也是銀行的MT。)
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YolandaTam 發表於 18-12-7 10:08
嗰150個團聚配額,以前香港好景,無乜影響;後來經過金融風暴再加政策失誤,就業困難咗,香港 ...

以前我都贊成家庭團聚,主要是末成年的子女。因為已經來到七七八八,現在主要是成年子女,一個過來之後,就太太及子女,太太又申請家庭團聚。香港根本容不下這麼多人,我贊成應該檢視一下,改變審批條件。
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and wisdom to know the difference.

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ANChan59 發表於 18-12-7 10:38
現在有很多年青人工作態度差,竟然有人出帖鬧公司9點後唔可以食早餐係無人情味!這不是常識嗎?
(對,這是 ...

那你說的現在年輕人被大環境壓住,是什麼意思呢?為何有人要壓住他們?誰去壓住他們?

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IloveJJ 發表於 18-12-7 10:43
那你說的現在年輕人被大環境壓住,是什麼意思呢?為何有人要壓住他們?誰去壓住他們?
...

因為好政治性,我晚上 PM你!
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ANChan59 發表於 18-12-7 10:46
因為好政治性,我晚上 PM你!

好的。謝謝!

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IloveJJ 發表於 18-12-7 10:32
咁你叫我guess嘛!我咪guess囉!

你不是 guess ,你說我話 .......

我不怕,但我最討厭別人亂扣帽子。
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courage to change the things I can;
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