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教育王國 討論區 備戰大學 IBDP vs DSE
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IBDP vs DSE

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發表於 18-9-19 19:35 |顯示全部帖子
睇下呢條link同入面DSE考生和IB香港考生攞各級成績百份比便一清二楚,

https://www.hkptu.org/51053#more-51053


DSE考生平均每科攞5**只有1.3%, IB香港考生攞最高7級竟有24.1%!
有人話是因為讀IB學生較精英, 大學擇優取錄好合理, 但唔該用一用simple logic 和 common sense. 即使我當IB生全是BAND ONE 學生, 將DSE考生成績百份比放大三倍比較, DSE 考獲5**比例仍只有3.9%! 係IB考獲最高級成績仍是係DSE考獲最高級成績的6倍有多?  除非你信IB個pool的學生係優秀到平均等於BAND ONE A頭入面仲要最TOP個50%學生!  我唔信囉!  咪同我講唔同制度冇得比較或好難比較, 冇得比較就唔好安排爭入同一大學學位, 更應統一種考試, 若要容許考唔同試學生爭入同一批大學學位, 就唔該公平D, 客觀D, 科學D, 仔細D比較唔同考試深淺, 評分寛緊及標準.  如果唔係DSE首先玩完, 跟住IB因放水越來越離譜而沈淪, 以後米再拗DSE定IB深, 除非協會做假數據, IB事實係比DSE淺好多, 再唔係便是IB評分比DSE宽鬆好多

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發表於 18-9-19 20:30 |顯示全部帖子

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本帖最後由 poonseelai 於 18-9-19 22:02 編輯

其實葉生列出課程dse生佔6-7成,咁都唔合理?我仍相信今年港大医係收唔夠dse生,而不是刻意收少D,今年5科考獲31分或以上少了100+人,這些最大基会考到港大医要求37分或以上

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發表於 18-9-19 23:55 |顯示全部帖子
poonseelai 發表於 18-9-19 20:30
其實葉生列出課程dse生佔6-7成,咁都唔合理?我仍相信今年港大医係收唔夠dse生,而不是刻意收少D,今年5科 ...
這個我同意呀!DSE夠分的人是多了選中大,港大就自然是收唔夠啦。佢零願唔收,但也不想收低分的。
港大冇想過學生零選中大唔選佢,所以之前 誇下海口話耍收七成DSE, 點知衰咗

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發表於 18-9-20 00:27 |顯示全部帖子
佔6、7成合理?!My god 竟然仍有人唔肯直面數據,IB係比DSE淺、評分較寛鬆致大學對兩制學生收生比例嚴重不合理的事實

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發表於 18-9-20 00:56 |顯示全部帖子

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本帖最後由 poonseelai 於 18-9-20 07:41 編輯

ib淺?請問又如何比較ib 的 tok, ee and cas? 這3項是ib core requirements, 任何一項不合格,即使其他6科取滿分亦拿不到ib diploma, 大部分大學都要求有 ib diploma。此外,大部分香港ib生考母語英語級別(dse仍是英文為2nd language),考英文要求高科目如law, 医,global business 有利。所以葉先生作為教育界代表,不從整體去比較,只着眼個別科目合格率,不夠全面和帶有誤導。有家長share中大理科改制,electives有**, 3322不達標亦会考慮,改革dse不足才是正道,而不应該去限制他人。

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發表於 18-9-20 13:45 |顯示全部帖子
These are the essay titles for May 2018:
1. “The fields of study of academic disciplines can overlap, but adopting interdisciplinary approaches to the production of knowledge leads only to confusion.” Discuss this claim.
2. “We know with confidence only when we know little; with knowledge doubt increases” (adapted from JW von Goethe). Discuss this statement with reference to two areas of knowledge.
3. “Without the assumption of the existence of uniformities there can be no knowledge.” Discuss this claim with reference to two areas of knowledge.
4. “Suspension of disbelief” is an essential feature of theatre. Is it essential in other areas of knowledge? Develop your answer with reference to two areas of knowledge.
5. “The quality of knowledge produced by an academic discipline is directly proportional to the duration of historical development of that discipline.” Explore this claim with reference to two disciplines.
6. “Robust knowledge requires both consensus and disagreement.” Discuss this claim with reference to two areas of knowledge.

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發表於 18-9-20 13:47 |顯示全部帖子
要寫1500字的題目,對於中學生來說,絕對不容易

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發表於 18-9-20 13:58 |顯示全部帖子
Norwood 發表於 18-9-20 13:47
要寫1500字的題目,對於中學生來說,絕對不容易

這個只要tok, 仲有4000字ee

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發表於 18-9-20 14:00 |顯示全部帖子
沒有深入了解,只是聽人說IB容易便去讀,大有人在,到時連IB diploma 都冇,怪得誰

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發表於 18-9-20 14:21 |顯示全部帖子
如果連數據都唔睇清楚,唔用思想去分析,我都唔知可以憑乜?數據唔全面(當然呢個世界冇完美嘅統計)又講唔出點唔全面,齋噴口水真係冇乜好拗。Tok, EE,cas都係花巧野,就好似公司的brochure 一樣,有幾堅我唸讀ib好清楚。唔睇數據大家都可以誠實地問自己幾個問題既,香港呢個社會功唔功利?讀ib嘅家長係米比較有米?有米嘅家長係米儍?你係有米嘅家長會唔推d仔囡去考一個比dse仲深仲難入大學嘅試?以前讀ib主要都係唸住預仔囡到外國留學,但慢慢發覺原來一個屈尾十報讀香港嘅大學有條捷徑,有米嘅米越來越多人讀lB囉

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發表於 18-9-20 14:33 |顯示全部帖子
預備開火都得喇,呢度好多好似國内呢两日响高鐵單新聞女乘客,有video,好好笑,剥大對眼大大聲話自己啱.仔女讀緊嗰樣,唔通話你啱咩,老虎都好似那女乘客.

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發表於 18-9-20 14:40 |顯示全部帖子
its a very interesting topic. I don't know much about the comparison between IB and DSE. It seems that the only argument to say IB is easier is that more people in HK can get good marks in IB, without much analysis on the exam papers, or the people who take the exam.

For completeness, i also set out below the topics for a DSE writing paper. I like these topics, at least i understand what they ask and what to write. honestly, it takes me a while to understand the topics for IB. And you only need to write 400 words on any of the topics.

Learning English through Sports Communication
You have been asked by Mr Wong, the teacher in charge of the school magazine, to produce an article about a
well-known sports star. You need to write an email to Mr Wong. In this email, suggest a sports star, explain what
would be included in the article and outline how you will make the article attractive to your schoolmates.
3. Learning English through Drama
You are reading Hamlet by William Shakespeare for drama class. In the play, Prince Hamlet avenged his father’s
murder by killing his uncle, Claudius. Your homework is to write a diary entry about a situation in which you
revenge an injustice.
4. Learning English through Social Issues
Your school is discussing joining the Direct Subsidy Scheme (DSS) which allows schools to freely decide on their
curriculum, fees and entrance requirements. However, the scheme has been criticised as benefiting the private
education sector and the well-off students at the expense of the public sector. Write a letter to the school Principal
to express your concerns and give three reasons why you oppose the school joining the scheme.
5. Learning English through Debating
Some people describe Hong Kong as a ‘city of protest’ because its people often take to the streets to show their
dissatisfaction towards the government. Write a letter to the editor of the Pan Lloyds Post about this. In your letter,
describe a protest that you think is unreasonable, outline the point of view of the protesters, and indicate why you
think those people are unreasonable.
6. Learning English through Workplace Communication
You are a human resources officer. Recently your boss has observed that the office is very untidy, and people are
not disposing of their rubbish properly so there is rubbish even in the aisles. He has asked you to write an article
for the company’s website describing the situation and discussing the negative effects. You have also been asked to
give two suggestions to improve the situation. Give a suitable title for your article.
7. Learning English through Popular Culture
Smartphones are increasing in popularity all over the world and are no longer appealing only to young people.
Write an article for your school newspaper explaining why smartphones are gaining popularity all over the world
among people of all ages. Give a title to your article.

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發表於 18-9-20 15:15 |顯示全部帖子
GGD 發表於 18-9-20 14:40
its a very interesting topic. I don't know much about the comparison between IB and DSE. It seems th ...

之前嗰份係tok題目,英文另有paper, 有時間会分享

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發表於 18-9-20 15:16 |顯示全部帖子
ilyrd 發表於 18-9-20 14:33
預備開火都得喇,呢度好多好似國内呢两日响高鐵單新聞女乘客,有video,好好笑,剥大對眼大大聲話自己啱.仔女讀 ...

你好似想買定花生咁

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發表於 18-9-23 23:34 |顯示全部帖子
IB較DSE易, 有research 證明嗎?

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發表於 18-9-23 23:44 |顯示全部帖子
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發表於 18-9-23 23:46 |顯示全部帖子
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發表於 18-9-24 00:04 |顯示全部帖子
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發表於 18-9-25 21:51 |顯示全部帖子
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我考過DSE,同一年又考埋GCE AL,點解兩條都識做既? 又話好難既,我有冇睇錯呀,咁易既?

不過唔緊要啦,就算呢兩條完全唔識都一定拎到7.

Mathematics (HL) 7只需78-80%, chemistry 7就只係需要75%,洗唔洗識咁多呀?

https://www3.dpcdsb.org/STFXS/Documents/2017-05_grade_boundaries.pdf


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