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發表於 18-6-3 17:27 |顯示全部帖子
poonseelai 發表於 18-6-2 20:27
之前有報導一間big 4請新人一半非会計系, 正因consulting 是未來發展方向, 要求不同人材, deloitte 話a ...

我認為有兩個原因,diversity 是你指出的一個,另一個是收唔夠 audit associates.

小兒的Big4 顧問服務,一年才收20人左右,audit 則收200-250。所以不少 audit associates 是非會計畢業或主修。
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poonseelai 發表於 18-6-3 12:20
近日同D考生講開,hkicpa audit paper 上次俾個case 是科網公司 (實際上唔知幾多人做過), taxation  syll ...

Interesting.
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Doray 發表於 18-6-5 18:59
各又各好,CU degree 讀完technical 勁啲入big 4 上手快啲,但另一個副作用喺啲鑊job 鐘意book 你,咁就去 ...

心有同感!
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Doray 發表於 18-6-6 08:15
但係之前大部份做得都3、4年,宜家係二年貨仔。可能多咗少爺仔,唔想咁辛苦。 ...

另一原因是人工太低,14,500 而已!

而且后生一輩傾向 work life balance,而不是有上班時間,冇下班時間!
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poonseelai 發表於 18-6-6 10:19
這個已是大行人工,再低都有

係。

阿仔 幾個 offers 之中 Big 4 最奀,但學嘢亦可能是最多,你知我不是講 audit.

就算今年大幅加人工,還是落後其他工種!要兩年才勉強追到!

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發表於 18-6-6 11:39 |顯示全部帖子
poonseelai 發表於 18-6-6 11:17
同意,肯做真係學到好多,入行真係要預捱幾年,一二年作用不大,近年好多audit跳去銀行做compliance ...

任何銀行現在賺錢少 d 冇乜問題,最緊要唔好被罰!
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poonseelai 發表於 18-6-6 10:19
這個已是大行人工,再低都有

我不是行内人,不過我見到大行在考試假期及費用方面都算大方。
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Doray 發表於 18-6-6 14:34
Agreed, 我都覺得真得去起碼應該捱三四年貨仔,一两年就走徙咗law.

我覺得整個行業 OT 過多,是不正常的。

做醫生,護士都是厭惡性,但人工高好多。現在人工好低,工時長,高重覆性,流失率高是十分正常的。
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poonseelai 發表於 18-6-7 09:12
之前理大公布畢業生平均薪金有兩萬幾,我笑会計有份拉低人工。低可能同分餅仔有關,即equity parter好大份 ...

Equity partner 欏大舊都合理的。

我近幾個月嘗試去了解這個行業,我都覺得幾冇與時並進,唔知食老本可以食幾耐呢?

你講開果間 Big 4 用Al,我就打開包花生觀望啦。阿仔做過QA Intern,見到 RM 兩個禮拜都Upload 唔到個客嘅資料,IT 都好弱,support 唔到,點玩Al?
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Doray 發表於 18-6-7 09:31
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OT 不嬲都多,我記得做细時成日好夜返,我老豆(佢以經係好勤力同好commit to work  ...

我識朋友以前做細,底薪係低,但加埋 OT 多兩三倍,現在什麼都Cut ,俾會計老闆算完度完,邊有得你著數。你識算人,人又算你,都公平㗎,結果中層果班最慘情,唔夠 junior ,自己都要做基層嘢!


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Doray 發表於 18-6-7 10:20
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好多大公司對外好似好innovative, 好貼market, 實際後面仲係好滯後到你唔信。 ...

我都明白嘅!

我冇講埋結尾,最後是兩個本地大學非電腦系的 summer  intern 用了三個鐘頭搞掂。我都好奇問佢哋點識,佢哋話响 Google 搵解決方法,試咗幾次就搞掂咗!
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Doray 發表於 18-6-7 11:24
得罪講句,好多大公司高層坐上去之後放軟手脚,又冇keep 著update, IT technology obsolete 得咁快,好多跟 ...

一般来说,公会及专业团体鼓励CPD,其中不全是专业相关,照计无理由对科技咁弱㗎!

有网友提醒我话明年开始考各级CFA,要考埋金融科技、Al,的发展,我都有些担心阿仔掂唔掂,佢都話是轻程嘢,齋吹水,冇乜 technical ,平时留意吓就得,我都奇怪,信住先!

咁 CPA 都应该考 FinTech,Al 之些相关内容了,预备失业抑或进入新领域,是现实问题还是哲学问题?
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發表於 18-6-8 16:23 |顯示全部帖子
ChiChiPaPa 發表於 18-6-8 08:25
如果擔心科技或數據能力不足,入讀中大IBBA或PACC後,可選讀一些相關的科目,如:

* ACCT4242 Accounting D ...

你真是跟得貼,我肯定跟你有段距離!

你說的課程到實際應用,是否有等同的效果。阿仔講大學學的跟他現正工作的有一段頗大距離,反而最重要的是學得快,指在網上自學,而不是靠上司的指點。
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HL7646 發表於 18-6-9 14:02
其實讀BBA 最大的好處就係有唔同的enrichment programme/network 去令D 學生整靚CV 去搵工, 例如consulting ...

咁樣講,如果真係勁,會唔會選IBBA ,上面還有GBus,QFin,PACC 等等課程。
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ChiChiPaPa 發表於 18-6-9 15:00
本帖最後由 ChiChiPaPa 於 18-6-9 15:04 編輯

準確一些來說,IBBA係一個major program(主修),而當中有 ...

我唔會咁分,最初UST 就好似你咁分,結果係 top 嘅去了HKU 及CUHK,現在神科會獨立成科,唔跟BBA了。
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ChiChiPaPa 發表於 18-6-9 15:00
本帖最後由 ChiChiPaPa 於 18-6-9 15:04 編輯

準確一些來說,IBBA係一個major program(主修),而當中有 ...
I only say they are in the same Business School, but not streams.

They are different programs.

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ChiChiPaPa 發表於 18-6-8 19:34
我個囡都係每年做完summer intern,看職場需要,先再修正自己的選科計劃。我知得多,都係靠佢話我知。至於 ...

我同意暑期實習的好處,但我反而不贊成就 Intern 工作有限經驗選及後的 electives。

首先,intern 工作是好皮毛,唔係影帝影后叫執到,唔多前瞻性及高層次的工作。

其次,會計都是傳統及保守行業,缺乏前瞻性,而且社會及世界轉變急速,如何部署畢業后進修及學得快更有用。

再者,你列出不少 electives,是所謂 fintech,係時興的,但最重要的是法規點監管,不單單是HKMA點睇,還有其他中央銀行點睇!當然可以知道一些基本嘢,到畢業時,可能已經變了。

我自己覺得都是按興趣選科較穏妥。

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Doray    發表於 18-6-11 14:15
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ChiChiPaPa 發表於 18-6-12 00:52
還有:

FINA4380 Algorithmic Trading Strategies, Arbitrage and HFT 學程式買賣

我當然知道,我都有去本港多間大學分享 及教technology entrepreneurship and innovation,中大是比較多,但在校學生又吸收到幾多呢?

部分你列出的課程,阿仔的 QFin 是必修課,但出到去是另一個世界,所以他專注某些 streams,而工作又適合他的強項,及考專業試的範圍就最理想!

畢業後大半年過去,反而最有用的是 Maths, 特別是 Calculus ;Excel 及 幾種 coding 方法。


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Doray 發表於 18-6-13 22:24
講B仔其實點都唔夠做銀行,你做上去已經唔係一個Accountant, 係一個揾生意嘅Sales, 當然係揹住咗個好嘅牌頭 ...
For junior, bonus only 0.5 - 2.0 months only, can't compare with banks in good years.
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Doray 發表於 18-6-13 22:34
總之睇性格喜好,人生or career 係自己drive, 始終都係心態最重要
Agree.
For all other professions.
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