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tobebee 發表於 18-2-15 16:45
大家唔好再嘈了，我只是發表我自己看到的一面，我相信你地都是在發表你地看到的一面，每件事的看法大家都有 ...

真理越辨越明！ 講清講楚好啲！你寫咗咁多「有理」的allegations, 無論對學校的聲譽，學校的老師， 中文或英文，都做成不公，然後叫人冇嘈！
而且就算是幾年前，我相信民生也不是如你所說的那樣。

民生所請的NET, 工資不比其他學校的便宜。NET 流動性一向比較大，看民幼網站，有些net 也在民幼教了很多年的。民幼有18個NET, 一年換三幾個好正常。小兒班的net病了一天，竟然有替假的net, 我覺得民生做得很足，如果一間學校只有2個net, 情況會怎樣？
學費便宜是因為學校不是以賺錢為目的，並不是將貨就價！
在同一地點（九龍塘九龍城）， 民幼校巴收$1000， 我們放棄的另一間名幼收$1800。學校8月尾開始上課，一年也只收10個月學費，有啲幼稚園七月上10天8天，8月又上10天8天，收足12個月學費。 對於民幼的老師來說，他們也差不多放了2個月的有薪假，我覺得這樣對大家都好，對她們有很大的鼓勵性，唔會比學校用到盡。
學校所有的outing 車費， 學生免費，連家長也免費。
遊學團，家長只出家長那份錢，學生有學校全部資助。
錢對單一個家庭來說並不多，但是加起來，整體來說對學校是一種負擔。

lotteyi

K3家長，民生語境好，net 長駐，就算小朋友慢熱，他們也會主動鼓勵小朋友多發言。曾經觀過課，是分組活動，net 負責一項活動，eg 扣裇衫鈕。
Net 在民生敎係辛苦的，因為學校對他們有要求，家長日要見60幾個家長，要出席音樂會，聖誕節也要排舞。流失量高也不奇怪。
我班net 敎了兩年多，應該不是實習生吧！

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SarahGil

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Am not a user of MS. Neither do I know anyone studying there. So I am not in a position and am not going to comment on MS.

However, if my memory serves me right, tobebee sent her kid to my daughter's school and our school's teacher turnover rate is really low.  Bear in mind at least half of our teachers (including the principal) are NET (間學校行雙班主任制). According to the Principal, their teachers' retention rate can achieve 99.x%.  I believe not many other kindies (including those famous ones) can achieve that.  I reckon this is also one of the many selling points of our school.

MegaKnight

SarahGil 發表於 18-2-22 15:43
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Am not a user of MS. Neither do I know anyone studying there. So I am not in ...

Which school？

nhi

SarahGil 發表於 18-2-22 15:43
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Am not a user of MS. Neither do I know anyone studying there. So I am not in ...

If my memory serves me right, Tobebee claimed to be 民生用家 in another thread! Tobebee can be anything in the virtual world!

MegaKnight

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If me memory serves me right, Tobebee sent  "another kid" studied in KV also.

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SarahGil 發表於 18-2-22 15:43
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Am not a user of MS. Neither do I know anyone studying there. So I am not in ...

If my memory serves me right,  Tobebee claimed it has a few kids. Thus it’s reasonable it sent its kids to some other schools.

maglam0610

SarahGil 發表於 18-2-22 15:43
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Am not a user of MS. Neither do I know anyone studying there. So I am not in ...

排除了tobebee是否說真話, 其實我真的不覺得net的流失率對學校有幾大影響
當升班後, 也未必會是同一個net教, 亦不一定原班直升, 各種變數下, 只是要學生學習去適應環境轉變, 學習去接觸多啲新人事新作風, 而不習慣的永遠只是家長

SarahGil

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I recall she transferred her kid from MS to our school.

SarahGil

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My point is that high retention rate reflects how well the school and principal treat the teachers. 正如一間穩健的公司員工的 turnover rate都不會太大. In our school, many teachers have been working here since start up. The principal trains them and treats them well and their experience and quality 會有保證 and you can feel that they really enjoy their job and love the kids.  Even the class teachers don't follow the students' way up from PN to K3, they can recognize the kids from different classes. It's a small school and they would just feel the school like home, both teachers and students.

MegaKnight

SarahGil 發表於 18-2-23 10:40
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I recall she transferred her kid from MS to our school.

Are we talking about the same person,Tobebee's kid was in MS for whole 3 years.

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MegaKnight 發表於 18-2-23 10:57
If we are talking about the same person,  Tobebee's kid was in MS for whole 3 years.

唔使大起底咁誇張嗎?  而家討論MS, 唔係討論Tobebee

maglam0610

SarahGil 發表於 18-2-23 10:52
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My point is that high retention rate reflects how well the school and princi ...

你有你既point, 但教職員的流失率問題, 未必單單來自學校的管理, 合約制, 跳槽, 轉會, visa到期... 好多因素都會影響, 我兒子讀過兩間私幼一間非牟利, 唔講非牟利了, 因為佢一個net教晒全級, 另一間私幼的net也是年年轉, 所以這個現象在好多學校都會出現, 而並非用來抹黑一間學校的藉口

MegaKnight

amoyresident 發表於 18-2-23 11:04
唔使大起底咁誇張嗎?  而家討論MS, 唔係討論Tobebee

嘻，嘻，收到。以正視聽啫.

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MegaKnight 發表於 18-2-23 10:57
本帖最後由 MegaKnight 於 18-2-23 12:39 編輯

Are we talking about the same person,Tobebee's kid w ...

It’s easily understandable as Tobebee has a few kids, one studied in MS for 3 years, and the other might be once in MS and then transferred to another school.  大文豪點作都得， 還有一批同伴，共商作文技巧！

beiwoyu

73662710 發表於 18-2-23 14:23
It’s easily understandable as Tobebee has a few kids, one studied in MS for 3 years, and the other  ...

Well there is really no point of getting that personal.

Tobebe’s kid did study in MS till K3 but that is not the point.She is entitled to voicing out her opinion.

As a MS parent, you are also welcome to share your opposite views (which you did and it is highly appreciated that you have shared a lot of insights). Noting each family’s experience can vary even for the same period in the same school. It would be good if you can refrain from getting that personal and accusing her of making up stories...

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beiwoyu 發表於 18-2-23 23:06
本帖最後由 beiwoyu 於 18-2-23 23:07 編輯

Well there is really no point of getting that personal. ...

There is no point arguing anymore as we all judge with our common sense!

lotteyi

每逢講關於民生，tobebee 都會力數不是，還要是數年前經驗（即學券年代）
想聽意見就自己自行分析吧！
「以前民幼生日只得紅雞蛋，蛋糕都冇件」佢可能講三四十年前的事呢！

nhi

Tobebee 將留言全部deleted, 唔知遲啲又會再化身成為.......
根據她的留言，記錄如下： Tobebee 有兩個小孩讀過民幼，第一個讀完K3, 讀完K3佢先知道他小孩英文唔點， 佢又話好彩K2 開始補英文，佢又冇clarify 究竟英文點還是唔點， 雖然如此，Tobebe 還送過另外一個小孩進民幼（究竟是另一個小孩還是同一個小孩真是不清楚），比多次機會民幼，還是覺得民幼極差，最終轉校，轉入一簡有全天候NET的名幼，Tobebee 還有一個小孩讀過KV, 應該非常不俗！