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教育王國 討論區 小一選校 請問有無聖保祿2018報名時間表?
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請問有無聖保祿2018報名時間表?  

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發表於 17-10-12 09:01 |顯示全部帖子
siden 發表於 17-10-11 23:30
I’ve never seen any spk girl who was not accepted by primary was problem free.

It’s not a secret  ...

are you a teacher there? yes...cannot rule out those kids with problems...but it also have a lot of cases that smart one being put on waiting list.

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發表於 17-10-12 10:17 |顯示全部帖子
3hearts 發表於 17-10-12 09:01
are you a teacher there? yes...cannot rule out those kids with problems...but it also have a lot of ...

“it also have a lot of cases that smart one being put on waiting list.”

It’s your perception that those kids “are” smart. But, have you seen how they behave in class? Do you know how they interact with other kids in class?

I know an apparently very smart girl who was not accepted by primary. Unless you know what happened in class, you definitely would question why she was not accepted.

I can only say most “smart” girls who were not accepted by SPC has a reason behind.

Won’t get into details.

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發表於 17-10-12 10:35 |顯示全部帖子
siden 發表於 17-10-12 10:17
“it also have a lot of cases that smart one being put on waiting list.”

It’s your perception th ...

good point.
但。。。以你所知,那些小朋友學期尾攞埋品學兼優獎的,又會是什麼原因不被小學取錄呢?

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發表於 17-10-12 11:01 |顯示全部帖子
BallBall417 發表於 17-10-12 10:35
good point.
但。。。以你所知,那些小朋友學期尾攞埋品學兼優獎的,又會是什麼原因不被小學取錄呢?
...

依家有品學兼優奬?頒完送俾DG

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2023
發表於 17-10-12 11:05 |顯示全部帖子
Bevaja 發表於 17-10-12 11:01
依家有品學兼優奬?頒完送俾DG

本帖最後由 BallBall417 於 17-10-12 22:40 編輯

DG

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發表於 17-10-12 11:12 |顯示全部帖子
其實一句「佢地唔收係因為有你睇唔到的問題」,根本就立於不可被辯證之地。如果要睇上堂表現,十個有八個都可以睇到不同的問題。
收番的不一定完全十全十美,甚至有些是有obvious problem的。
有一年有個被幼稚園揀左畢業禮上台致詞的都是waiting。

有無問題smart唔smart都不是重點,而係被reject的連父母由頭到尾都唔知有乜野問題,學校K1 K2家長日亦無講任何問題,就比周圍的花生友/塘邊鶴話「佢一定係有問題」,然後全世界就Label個小朋友有問題。永遠也是家長和學生的問題,但又唔知係乜野問題。

好多不能被驗證的論述最後會成為真理,連學校都無公開的準則就變左公開的秘密。

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siuap    發表於 17-10-12 11:24
雲牛    發表於 17-10-12 11:17

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BallBall417 發表於 17-10-12 11:05
大埔 spcn 以前有.

真係唔知。據聞某一、兩届有好多smart girls 俾DG搶咗之後,SPK個 成積表基本上變成無差別,人人一樣。

大埔有品學兼優奬,但我想問大埔SPK入SPCS率有幾高?(認真唔知)

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發表於 17-10-12 11:14 |顯示全部帖子
BallBall417 發表於 17-10-12 10:35
good point.
但。。。以你所知,那些小朋友學期尾攞埋品學兼優獎的,又會是什麼原因不被小學取錄呢?
...

Spk has no such prize.

I know nothing about spcn or the criteria giving out this prize. No comment.


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發表於 17-10-12 11:15 |顯示全部帖子
little_goat 發表於 17-10-12 11:12
其實一句「佢地唔收係因為有你睇唔到的問題」,根本就立於不可被辯證之地。如果要睇上堂表現,十個有八個都 ...

其實又會唔會 smart 而又只有 waiting list 嗰D其實一早有其他 offer 而家長已經通知咗學校?

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Bevaja 發表於 17-10-12 11:15
其實又會唔會 smart 而又只有 waiting list 嗰D其實一早有其他 offer 而家長已經通知咗學校?
...

不是啊!

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發表於 17-10-12 11:38 |顯示全部帖子
本帖最後由 BallBall417 於 17-10-12 12:41 編輯
little_goat 發表於 17-10-12 11:12
其實一句「佢地唔收係因為有你睇唔到的問題」,根本就立於不可被辯證之地。如果要睇上堂表現,十個有八個都 ...

本帖最後由 BallBall417 於 17-10-12 12:16 編輯

一個謎。

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發表於 17-10-12 11:48 |顯示全部帖子
3hearts 發表於 17-10-12 09:01
are you a teacher there? yes...cannot rule out those kids with problems...but it also have a lot of ...

本帖最後由 cclemon2009 於 17-10-13 17:15 編輯

真係估佢吾到

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L+H    發表於 17-10-12 12:18

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發表於 17-10-12 12:17 |顯示全部帖子
little_goat 發表於 17-10-12 11:12
其實一句「佢地唔收係因為有你睇唔到的問題」,根本就立於不可被辯證之地。如果要睇上堂表現,十個有八個都 ...
, 你講出左現實

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發表於 17-10-12 12:34 |顯示全部帖子
cclemon2009 發表於 17-10-12 11:48
有朋友講平時上課好動不太守規矩的小朋友反而收到offer ,但平時行為良好的小朋友收到waiting 就大有人在 ...
可能同背後家長發功有關?

有好多事情唔係單睇表面

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發表於 17-10-12 12:38 |顯示全部帖子
It is totally unfair to label those SPK girls who were not accepted by the primary as girls who "must have some problems".  Every kid to a certain degree has his/her weaknesses.  Many girls have obvious "problems" and been strongly criticized by the kindergarten teachers have been accepted by the primary.
I tend to believe the selection is dominated by the primary section.  Kindergarten only has some say over those serious "non-recommendable" cases.

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發表於 17-10-12 12:50 |顯示全部帖子
本帖最後由 siden 於 17-10-12 13:08 編輯
CMMM 發表於 17-10-12 12:38
It is totally unfair to label those SPK girls who were not accepted by the primary as girls who "mus ...

If you think “It is totally unfair to label those SPK girls who were not accepted by the primary as girls who must have some problems”, then you’re saying the selection process is not a fair one.

If people believe that SPC selection process is not a fair one, the why are are parents so eager to push their girls into such an unfair school?

Every kid to a certain degree has his/her weaknesses. This is very true.

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發表於 17-10-12 12:56 |顯示全部帖子
ChocoMilk33 發表於 17-10-12 12:34
可能同背後家長發功有關?

有好多事情唔係單睇表面

係,可能家長太怪獸?

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發表於 17-10-12 13:05 |顯示全部帖子
本帖最後由 siden 於 17-10-12 13:08 編輯
little_goat 發表於 17-10-12 11:12
其實一句「佢地唔收係因為有你睇唔到的問題」,根本就立於不可被辯證之地。如果要睇上堂表現,十個有八個都 ...

咁你唔信係冇問題。

但你又冇俾到其他證據證明其他人嘅講法係錯架喎?

你又知你話係「閒雜人」「塘邊鶴」嘅人唔係有真憑實據知內部運作所以咁講?

求其la, 你係要覺得SPC唔fair唔識揀學生,唔被收嘅都係無限寃屈,咁你繼續。

呢間學校唔係我開,我冇必要浪費時間去為佢defense。

我只係講事實,但唔會蠢到係open forum disclose資訊來源。尤其咁多人覺得我吹水,更加冇必要為咗不相干嘅人浪費光陰再去提供我認為珍貴但狀似吹水的資訊。

歡迎大家再speculate呢間學校如何揀學生。

到此為止,不會再回應。


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發表於 17-10-12 13:21 |顯示全部帖子
siden 發表於 17-10-12 12:50
If you think “It is totally unfair to label those SPK girls who were not accepted by the primary a ...

本帖最後由 Bevaja 於 17-10-12 13:25 編輯

I agree that they must be a reason why a girl is only offered waiting list, though I may refrain from using the word "problem".

SPCS does have a lot of factors to consider, including the fact that there are 4 (?) related kindergartens and therefore more students now fight for the P1 seat.many factors will affect their decision, e.g. academic performance, any older sister in good primary school, where they live, the child's character, parent's character, etc, just to name a few.

honestly the selection process is always a black box and we can hardly comment fair or unfair but we need to trust that the school will act for the good of the primary school and the students... if you don't believe in this assumption, then everything will be a conspiracy.

similarly, every year a lot people will say that dgjs accepted some average students whilst some smart girls are wait-listed.of course it is not a good analogy coz some will argue that SPK has 2 years to observe the students..... well, again, who knows and who has full information how their daughter behave in class?

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發表於 17-10-12 13:31 |顯示全部帖子
To certain extent I do not consider the selection process totally fair.  You may argue otherwise but clearly fairness is not seen by most people.  
But that is life.
The promotion of the Kindergarten kids is not fair doesn't mean the school is not a good one.  Indeed it is a super good school.
As there are not enough seats to accept all those from the Kindergarten, every year there is disappointment among the K3 parents.  
I just want to say those "unlucky" girls are not inferior than their peer nor are they "problematic".  And I know that many girls who were not accepted by the primary section are now doing pretty well in other good schools.