Change in application policy for ESF

hong0706

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babyonboard

hong0706 發表於 17-4-7 13:49
其實你哋第一步要做嘅，係將你哋嘅憂慮，同埋感覺到嘅不公平，反映比英基，今次政策改變先出大綱，六月先出 ...

FINALLY someone suggested something constructive and reasonable.  Like!係人都知唔鍾意讀可以唔讀 no offence.

diablo3

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Lets do something together!

FattyDaddy

hong0706 發表於 17-4-7 13:49
如果反响夠大，都唔係冇微調空間 ...

This is very true. A few years ago ESF was planning to stop giving interview priority to ESF kindergarten pupils altogether, and then this plan was suddenly withdrawn just before the start of primary school applications.

However the move to withdraw the plan albeit a sensible move did cause resentment among some parents because they took ESF's word and declined offers from ESF kindergartens believing their children would not have interview priority towards ESF primary schools.

So I wouldn't be surprised if this plan to introduce a new application arrangement will also be withdrawn sometime later this year before applications begin, I won't bet on it though.

diablo3

FattyDaddy 發表於 17-4-7 12:44
If ESF's intention of introducing the new arrangement is to guard against "stamp collectors" holding ...

Totally! I guess their intention or I should say at least RC (cos the RC admission manager was the one annoucing and answering) want to do something back to the students WHO DONT LOVE BACK THE SCHOOL when they are offered the seat.What they have to do is like what you said, do some simple cross check.
Someone asked her any benefits for ESF kindie, she could not answer any. She kept on emphasizing how easy for the school.
I really wonder who doesnt plan to have a backup school...non-esf kids sure wont just apply RC too, they may as well give up RC finally. This new policy is kind of like PUNISHING esf kids. Old practise non-esf kids may not even get the interview chance, now they will have a higher chance to get it plus they have their own backup plans
But for esf kindie kids,it is like taking away their chances, cos they wont even be given a chance to get interview in 2nd school.
I will be emailing them my concern but it wont stop me from replying here too. As some esf kindie parents (and future ones)may not be aware of the risk they are facing now

FattyDaddy

diablo3 發表於 17-4-7 14:49
I really wonder who doesnt plan to have a backup school ...

Most people would arrange a backup, one would be stupid not to.

The new arrangement is essentially saying "Your application will only be assessed once by one ESF school, so your backup cannot be another ESF school, you'll have to look outside of ESF for backups".

In the case of a particular school (I won't say which one), they're essentially saying "I'm tired of being everyone's favourite backup in all these years, from now on if I'm not your first choice then please go away".

VVhuilee

FattyDaddy 發表於 17-4-7 15:19
Most people would arrange a backup, one would be stupid not to.

The new arrangement is essentially ...

yep!  so true!

VVhuilee

diablo3 發表於 17-4-7 14:49
Totally! I guess their intention or I should say at least RC (cos the RC admission manager was the o ...

This is really punishment.... with this new system we would be assessed once and offered once only.  The 2nd choice becomes 1st choice.  Why would someone puting that school as 2nd choice has to be punished (bottom of the queue)?   Then what is the point of puting 2nd choice?

little-pig-pig

其實如果Sam 真係BHS冇位而去2nd choice RC, 佢都應該排名先過non-ESF kindy 學生（assume佢地揀RC係1st choice)? 因為佢地個priority list 都仲係esf kindy 學生先過非kindy 學生嘛

964000

I read from the other post RC is offering 160 spots to ESF kids and at the end only 60 take it. So I think they are really fed up as being the backup.

babyonboard

diablo3 發表於 17-4-7 14:49
Totally! I guess their intention or I should say at least RC (cos the RC admission manager was the o ...

Exactly what I think. Fully support. Will do the same.

Cara2006

964000 發表於 17-4-7 16:24
I read from the other post RC is offering 160 spots to ESF kids and at the end only 60 take it. So I ...

I would too if I were the admission officer. Who would not?

diablo3

little-pig-pig 發表於 17-4-7 16:20
其實如果Sam 真係BHS冇位而去2nd choice RC, 佢都應該排名先過non-ESF kindy 學生（assume佢地揀RC係1st ch ...

No! They will give priority to applicants who put that school as their 1st choice...so Sam will have lower chance for interview even he is esf kindy

ddbb0099

咁讀esf k有乜好過讀其他k?

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diablo3

964000 發表於 17-4-7 16:24
I read from the other post RC is offering 160 spots to ESF kids and at the end only 60 take it. So I ...

Rc has 162 seats..they offered 170 to esf kindy only 60 accepted.While I think the acceptance rate is really low, she didnt mention the acceptance rate of non-esf kids. Do you think non-esf got offered of RC and 100% accepted it?
She is trying to do math tricks. There was only 162 seats in total, how could the school give out 170 offers to esf kindy alone? Are they over-offering that much? I heard many non esf kindy got offer of RC first round. I can still recall the same staff mentioned before that they DO NOT over-offer...how the math has gone wrong?

I again really think the acceptance rate is very disappointing to the school admission, but I believe non-esf kids do the same too. Why would they come up with a new policy to just punish the esf kids?
Why dont the 3 schools liaise with each other, maybe announce the result together, making the deposit deadline the same, so the parents wont be “stamp collector”...or as Fattydaddy has mentioned, just cross check with each other so that they wont be holding 2 schools or 3 at the same time.

I am sure all schools out there are facing many turn down after giving out the offers, this is how the backup thing all parents are doing, isnt it? No matter how smart your kid is, you will still apply for backup bcos you think there maybe chances he/she may fail the interview. If you are the lucky parents, you got all offer and you will have to give up the seat, so what is the big deal of having many turn down from the parents?

When PIS is not happy with that, they choose to punich esf kids, what a nice big family we are!

bighead234

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still can enjoy the priority for interview if parents dun wanna try the luck of number drawing or paying for INR

diablo3

ddbb0099 發表於 17-4-7 17:25
咁讀esf k有乜好過讀其他k?

So true...so pls all esf parents, pls send some noise to esf admission.What I think they can do is, if they really think it is so good, then they should start this in 2019 or 2020 Y1 application. This new policy should not affect the current esf kindy kids.
The potential parents will then decide whether or not to choose to study in esf kindy in the future.

bighead234

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good point

ddbb0099

diablo3 發表於 17-4-7 17:43
So true...so pls all esf parents, pls send some noise to esf admission.What I think they can do is,  ...

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