民小 vs 聖母 vs SFA

73662710

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Mumepen has replied your old post! She has clarified what A1A2B1B2C represented.
In her child's year: only 2 band C student and ~40 band 2 students ( Group B1 and B2)
Most of the time, all band 1 students(A1A2) can be promoted to MSC, and some lucky B2 students can get in too.
99 is definitely not the total number of students admitted to MSC.

http://www.edu-kingdom.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3093887&extra=page%3D1&page=3

I have been to the open day of MSC to have first hand information from parents of K students, students from primary and secondary session and teachers. What I got is listed below:
1. K students, very little homework, but need parents' involvement in implementing the reading exercises and parent-child homework.
2. Primary students: can finish homework within 30 min most of the time, starting from P4, home work increases a bit, but still can be finished within an hour most of the time.
3. From secondary students: most of their classmates can be promoted to F.1, however it is hard to just what "most of" from these students. From Mumepen's figure, ~140-150 band1 students ( both A1 and A2) normally can be promoted to MSC, this figure is not bad. But deinitely not 99.

bananaGi

tkinwong 發表於 16-10-13 13:50
假設小朋友受谷，家長又有時間和資源和小朋友一同奮鬥，那就一定是SFA。

不過，如果我知自己的話，返為會 ...

民生少壓？相信唔會。

novelle

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純粹討論：
相信sfa 嘅學生應該比民小優勝（學術上），畢竟民小多從民幼升上來，sfa 則從面試中選擇學術最強勁的學生。如果在民小都不能突圍，在sfa競爭更強的環境下怎可能更好？

hkpapa852

73662710 發表於 16-10-19 09:37
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Mumepen has replied your old post!She has clarified A1A2B1B2and C

引用番mumepen既回應:

民生會將學生分5 groups

A1 (全級頭99名)
A2 (99名後既 band 1 學生)
B1 (貼近 band1 既 band2學生 AND 幫學校攞好多獎既學生)
B2 (band 2學生)
C (band 3學生)

A1 必收，因學校有99個位屬直屬位
A2 都是 band 1 生，填表時填民生第1志願都大機會收返

呢種講法本身已經有一個錯既概念, 直屬位唔係按名次可直升, 都係按照同一banding學生一齊去抽.
如果A1同A2都係B1學生而又多過99人, 咁有99個學生既A1組, 當中會有人抽唔入既機會點都大過人數較少既A2組學生吧!
所以合理計應只有A1組必定係B1學生, 而且如果能肯定A1組全入, 我估計A1組應該唔會有99人咁多.

73662710

bananaGi 發表於 16-10-19 09:38
民生少壓？相信唔會。

Relatively.
All students are under certain stress no matter in band 1 or 2  or 3 schools.

I know one parent who tries desperately to push his son to work hard to maintain the band 1 status in MSP and she almost emotionally breaks down!!! but just imagine what will happen if her son is in SFA.

In primary schools, both band 1 A and band 1 B are equally good qualitatively, though a score of 95 is better than 90 quantitatively. How mush effort one needs to put in order to push up a score from 90 to 95???
I will let my kid sacrifice the 5 point so as to play more for sure!!

73662710

小曳人 發表於 16-10-19 09:24
身邊有媽媽朋友孩子讀緊民小，亦有朋友嘅朋友讀緊

可能你會話我都係聽人講，但讀緊嘅家長心裡明白：初小全 ...

For very good students, they will be fine no matter in MSP or SFA.
For mediocre students, they may survive in MSC but not in SFA.
For not doing that well students, they will have hard time in both schools!

hkpapa852

hkpapa852 發表於 16-10-19 09:53
引用番mumepen既回應:

民生會將學生分5 groups

73662710 and this was also what I got during the open day! 發表於 10 分鐘前

73662710 She has stated 140-150 of her kid's classmates got promoted to MSC.
Lets stop here! 發表於 11 分鐘前

有140-150個小學部可生可升入民生書院, 就代表個140-150個都係B1學生嗎?

瞭解清楚遊戲規則去評估實際情況吧!

如果要堅決逃避現實或不願面對, 大可繼續相信.

我既立場係要講出按照實際資料同遊戲規則去評估既可能性, 減少因為人云亦云而帶嚟既傷害和令人有錯誤期望既落差.

mcl203

原帖由 hkpapa852 於 16-10-19 發表
本帖最後由 hkpapa852 於 16-10-19 09:56 編輯

中學係可以用自行位調節A1，2收生人數, 呢個係派位機制下既生口位。

唔怪得民小田徑隊咁積極參與比賽，原來升中有分加

mcl203

原帖由 hkpapa852 於 16-10-19 發表
73662710 and this was also what I got during the open day! 發表於 10 分鐘前

73662710 She has state ...

都可以砌到條數既，前面走左30-40人，自己係自行位又出D，砌夠140-150人，但呢個方法唔會有保證，隨時可以彈弓手，又係偽術表現

lovebb2

mcl203 發表於 16-10-19 10:59
中學係可以用自行位調節A1，2收生人數, 呢個係派位機制下既生口位。

唔怪得民小田徑隊咁積極參與比賽，原 ...

與其搏田徑希望學校加分, 我覺得不如努力幫助小朋友讀好書, 做band 1生最實際, 甚至有冇直屬中學都唔洗驚

hkpapa852

mcl203 發表於 16-10-19 11:03
都可以砌到條數既，前面走左30-40人，自己係自行位又出D，砌夠140-150人，但呢個方法唔會有保證，隨時可以 ...

自行位: 54
叩門位: 10
直屬位: 99

加埋有163個位, 仲未計甲部2個同乙部非保留嗰15個位, 要砌夠書院收番140-150人, 容乜易

問題係, 就算保証收番150人, 依家一級7班, 每班至少35人, 頂多都係61%人可入得返書院

mcl203

原帖由 hkpapa852 於 16-10-19 發表
自行位: 54
叩門位: 10
直屬位: 99

無應承151上中學喎，141都可以彈弓手

snow228

最實際係做到BAND 1生, SFA 就做到8成BAND1 生,又唔洗睇直屬中學面色.

mcl203

原帖由 snow228 於 16-10-19 發表
最實際係做到BAND 1生, SFA 就做到8成BAND1 生,又唔洗睇直屬中學面色.

當真係80% B1生

snow228

73662710

hkpapa852 發表於 16-10-19 11:07
自行位: 54
叩門位: 10
直屬位: 99

I am not that aggressive, and quite okay with a band 1 B school.
not to mention 61%, I am satisfied even it is 50%.

geminialing

hkpapa852  我認為SFA只有6X% B1學生, APS同KTS有機會有80%, 但應該係7X%既機會高D

hkpapa852: 想請教點解SFA只有6X% BAND1? 佢位於深水埗網BAND1位不足, 仍然會存在BAND2僥倖上BAND1嗎?

mcl203

lovebb2 發表於 16-10-19 11:07
與其搏田徑希望學校加分, 我覺得不如努力幫助小朋友讀好書, 做band 1生最實際, 甚至有冇直屬中學都唔洗驚: ...

咁可以搏成績...仲搏埋田徑加分....田徑成績好有市場

hkpapa852

geminialing 發表於 16-10-19 11:50
hkpapa852  我認為SFA只有6X% B1學生, APS同KTS有機會有80%, 但應該係7X%既機會高D

hkpapa852: 想請 ...

直資中學收咗之後, 基本上學生仲會唔會搏盡去考埋呈三呢? 如果唔搏盡, 原本成績差D既就有機會升名次甚至升Band.

扣除晒B2A-B1既直資中學, SFA入到B1官津中學既學生不足60%, 部份B1中學, 仲要係會收一定比例既B2A學生(如大戶之一長天).

加上入到直資既學生, 亦未必盡是B1 (如培基, 顏寶玲等), 加上呢幾年升中人收處於低位, 所以我一向建議要打拆去估B1人數.

尤其如果多學生入到直資既, 更加要小心計算. 所以APS同KTS即使比例高, 但因為入直資比例更高, 加上九龍城網升中優勢, 所以其實際上佢地既B1比例, 應該唔會好似大家想像咁高.