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hoiyin

我想問下聖嘉勒小學,常識同數學用中文定英文教架? thx

瑄婷

中文教,不過四年級及以上的常識係英文教.

hoiyin

我想問下係咪書都係用英文同埋考試都係英文定中文thx

uncleedward

General Studies in English is introduced from p4 with its proportion increased to 50% of the subject in p6. Starting from 2004/05, New General Studies(今日常新領域) from Educational Publishing House Ltd is used as text books. Photocopies of the selected chapters from the English edition are provided by the publisher for free.

hoiyin

thank
咁中英數比其它學校深唔深,因為我老公個妹剛剛考左插班試.不過未知收唔收,所以想問d資料

uncleedward

The percentage I mentioned refers to the proportion of the marks in tests/exams. It started as 40% in p4.

uncleedward

Academically it is not an outstanding shcool although I will rank this school, together with its scondary school, as one of the schools with the best 校風 in the area, if not in Hong Kong.

The school is traditional/old fashioned to the letter. Considering the students' background (mostly from families in mid-levels), the school has not given the emphasis in academic areas the students deserve. The school is contented with the fact that most of its students can proceed to St Clare's Girls' College for their secondary education.

The tests/exams cannot be described as difficult. However, the competion is keen among the students. I guess the pressure also comes from the parents who wish to switch their daughters to other even more prestigious schools for secondary education. Therefore, you may find a student with an average score of 80 in major subjects already in the second half of the class.

Englsih is better than average although it may not be as good as at Sacred Heart or St Stephen's Girls, the 2 benchmark girls schools in the same area.

hoiyin

thanks uncleedward
不過我老公個妹話d卷好深ge    

uncleedward

Which schools is she comparing against? For example, the English comprehension papers of both St Paul Co-ed and St Paul College would be much more difficult.

For the maths paper at St Clare's, sometimes I have the feeling they are more like tests of carefulness rather than tests of mathematical abilities.

However, General Studies can still be difficult for students studying the subject in English for for the first time.

hoiyin

佢響海怡寶血讀緊.因為南區派位唔好所以想轉去中西區囉

hoiyin

想問下你係咪有小朋友響到讀緊呀?

trustme

Just curious, it seems that you are not too satisfy with this school but you know it quite well! Do you have daughters there or are you a teacher there? Frankly speaking, I am a past clarian, started my school life there from Kinder to Matric and I don't feel comfortable/repsect with your comments on this school and most of them are not true!

uncleedward

Dear Trustme

No, I am not too negative about the school. I consider myself a critical person, and my comment about the school being one of the best schools in Hong Kong in terms of 校風is unusually favourable. Academically, Clarions are doing reasonably well. This can be seen from the information revealed in EMB’s inspection report in Dec 2002. It is an almost 100% passing rate in the three major subjects for HKCE and the percentage of having A to C grades is also significantly higher than the territory average. For example, the percentage of having A to C grades in mathematics in 2001 was as high as 60.1%. Given the fact that the schools intake is mainly from its feeder school St Clare's primary, and some of the latter's top brains have already switched to other schools like Ying Wah, the academic achievements of Clarions are more than respectable.

However, the same inspection report also stated “taken as a whole, teachers (at St Clare's) had low expectations on students" and recommended “teachers (St Clare's) should make greater effort to ensure that students achievements are comparable to their abilities and aspirations.” This is reason why I said the school has not given the emphasis on academic achievements the students deserve. The school is more concerned with turning out “nice girls”乖乖女. I heard an interesting comment before that Ying Wah is good at turning out women CEOs while St Clare's is good at turning out good housewives.

But, if you ask 100 parents living at mid-levels what their choice will be if her daughter is lucky enough to have offers from St Stephen Girls’ primary, Sacred Heart primary and St Clare's primary, what will be the percentage of parents selecting St Clare's?  I think your guess will not be too far off from mine. What I have said in my previous posts is just sort of the consensus of most parents in this area, if they are not statements of facts. A Clarion is justified to be proud of her school, but St Clare's is really not an elite school in most people's opinion.

I understand the secondary section has been make changes since the new principal came two years ago. Such changes will take time to filter down to its complacent primary section.

If I am going to have a daughter again, as I am living at mid-levels, St Clare's primary will still be one of my top 3 choices. A typical clarion is a girl from a middle-class family with possibly a non-working mother, courteous and warm, reasonably intelligent while not too aggressive/ambitious.

Let's not forget the beautiful school uniform Clarions have. The “four-candy” school uniform is something a Clarion should be proud of. It matches perfectly with the image of a Clarion. Personally I would like to see a slightly bolder design for the winter uniform. For example, the much-loved St Stephen Girls’winter uniform is a distinct split from its traditional 長衫 in summer.

One more point, I was more on comparing the difficulties of the test/exam papers rather than the statements. As St Paul is using a lot of Singaporean materials of the same year in their English studies, undoubtedly their papers are more difficult. Naturally, their average scores are lower accordingly. Let's not forget it is always the relative scores which count.

uncleedward

Dear Hoiyin

According to EMB's inspection report, 海怡寶血學生"在二零零一至零二年度的香港學科測驗註一中， 學生的中文科
及英文科成績略高於全港平均成績， 而數學科的成績則低於
全港平均成績。" My guess then is St Clare's students' academic performance should be better.

My previous comparisons have to be read in the light that some of the schools I mentioned are actually top schools in Hong Kong.

uncleedward

Judging from the fact that I mis-spelled Clarian as Clarion in my posts, my relationship with the school is not that close at all.

I just happen to be a retired person working as a part-time tutor with some St Clare's students as my students. As my students also include students from other schools in mid-levels, I can be in a slightly better position than other parents in making comparison.

hoiyin

thanks

byj

I agree with most of comments of Unceedward.  Actaully my girl is studying in St. Clare's Primary School  Her acadmic results are quite good, so I am planning to switch her to Ying Wah Secondary, but I do so, I have to take the risk of not able to allocate back to St. Clare Secondary.  Do you think it is worth making this change?  

hoiyin

byi
想問下你囡囡係插班入去定小一開始讀架
同埋想問下收插班生要唔要好好成績呢?

byj

hoiyin

My girl was admitted in Primary one.  She was asked to take an entrance test.  The school enrols pupils from time to time.  Last year a gril from a govt school was admitted, she was ranked top in her school, but in St. Clare her performance was just average.  

For your information, Primary one students who are admitted in coming Sept will study full time instead of alternate half day.  The school fee is $2500.  

hoiyin

因為我先生個妹響學校d成績一般有唔合格..但st.clare 都有俾佢考插班試,,不過過左5日都未有回覆,所以想問下你知唔知到大概幾耐有回覆呢? thx