ISF 和 SIS 大家会怎么考虑？

ikerberg

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such a great proportion of ISF students took English B?  

ikerberg

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Thank you!  I just feel a bit shocked.   

caa

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It's quite misleading if one only looks at % of bilingual diploma and not the actual numbers taking both Eng A and Chin A while not knowing the fact that Chin A plus Eng B plus taking science or humanities subjects in English can earn you a bilingual diploma. When choosing a school, may need to ask if the school offers only English (or Chin) A, or both Eng (or chin) A and B. I believe international schools offer only Eng A

poonseelai

It is interesting to note that the following is included in the news about the 2015 IB results (again copied from the school website):

"We are particularly proud of the strong Bilingual Diploma results this year.  Of the 28 graduates, 20 (71.1%) were awarded the Bilingual Diploma, which recognizes students who have achieved native or near-native level in two languages."

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原帖由 poonseelai 於 16-02-19 發表
It is interesting to note that the following is included in the news about the 2015 IB results (agai ...

Native and near native..

caa

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By mathematics, 10 took Eng B, 8 took Chin B and no one can take both Eng B and Chin B, so 10 took Eng A and Chin A. Therefore, bilingual in "traditional sense" is 10 out of 28, or 35.7%. Hope my math is correct

HKTHK

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ISF went through a really tough period before the current Head of School arrives. Don't know how to compare with CKY though since I am not familiar with that school. Student turnover has stabilized but I don't think there will be a 60-70 graduating class for another few years. Having said that, there are still lots of departures for boarding school, less strenuous Chinese program, ......

leetai838

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建議 以上幾位先參詳一下 IB 的 definitions/terminiology.    另外, draw conclusion 前,麻煩用相同的邏輯 分析 類似學校 讓大家參考, 各自思量.  以免被人誤會 是偏見 或有心抹黑某學校 .   像 HKTHK 的 summary table,  只show factual data 免除 judgemental comments.   

HKTHK

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I think 70% is the long term target of the school. Don't think everyone want to dedicate so much time on two languages. There is an opportunity cost here and more time on languages means less time on Math, science, ECA, ....

nintendo

caa 發表於 16-2-19 12:04
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By mathematics, 10 took Eng B, 8 took Chin B and no one can take both Eng B  ...

This "strategy" to get the bilingual diploma has been discussed before.
Fact is, not all university ONLY look at the grades. They all look at the DETAILS.
This "strategy" only make the statistics of schools look good.
By the way, for the sake of being fair, which other schools offer English B?
I think out of my head, I can already name a few. So it appears to be kind of common to use the same strategy?
Sad indeed.

minamitse

Sorry, I would not follow the math. Where can I find the "10 took Eng B, 8 took Chin B" and "10 took Eng A and Chin A"

caa

leetai838 發表於 16-2-19 12:30
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建議 以上幾位先參詳一下 IB 的 definitions/terminiology.    另外, draw conclusion 前 ...

What I quoted is all fact! Suggest you check the school website and study well IB website!

caa

minamitse 發表於 16-2-19 12:52
Sorry, I would not follow the math. Where can I find the "10 took Eng B, 8 took Chin B" and "10 took ...

Look up the 2015 school profile under "publication" in its website. On page 3 there is a table showing each subject's results and the numbers in brackets mean number of students. It's all public info and fact provided by the school itself! No personal judgment at all.
2015 school profile

caa

minamitse 發表於 16-2-19 12:52
Sorry, I would not follow the math. Where can I find the "10 took Eng B, 8 took Chin B" and "10 took ...

It doesn't say how many took English A plus Chin A. That's by math deduction as no one can take Eng B plus Chin B. so there are only 3 possible combinations: Eng B+Chin A, Chin B+Eng A, Eng A+Chin A. Draw a grid and you will find the number of students taking Eng A + Chin A

caa

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I think those offering Eng B are not international schools according to EDB registration.

ikerberg

what's the point of spending all those tons of $$$ yet sitting for Eng.B?

nintendo

caa 發表於 16-2-19 13:08
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I think those offering Eng B are not international schools according to EDB re ...

Do you have some kind of a list?
Out of my head, I only know Logos, YC and VSA also provide Chinese B.

minamitse

Interesting

For CKY - 93% Bilingual Dip
seems no relevant information for details breakdown of subjects availabe

For SIS - 11% Bilingual Dip

seems only english A available

quote from its website

Group 1 – Language Acquisition

◦English Language and Literature (compulsory at either HL or SL)
◦Chinese Language and Literature SL

To earn a bilingual IB Diploma, those students who are at near-native speaker level in both English and Chinese may take both English and Chinese Language and Literature courses

caa

nintendo 發表於 16-2-19 13:15
Do you have some kind of a list?
Out of my head, I only know Logos, YC and VSA also provide Chinese ...

Checked CKY website, CKY also offers Eng B

nintendo

caa 發表於 16-2-19 13:38
Checked CKY website, CKY also offers Eng B

So, Logos, YC, VSA, ISF, CYK.May be other parents can add to this list?