大學捷徑

slamai

manning2014 發表於 15-12-4 18:33
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I quote here King's College, Cambridge as an example, please read for yourself.

I have overlooked and didn't address your special emphasis, i.e. "it does not say from another University somewhere else".  It simply shows that you don't understand the difference between a current student in a local U and another one from an overseas U who applies for an undergraduate degree.  It has largely to do with government subsidy and policy, e.g. in the case of HK, "in accordance with the University Grants Committee’s (UGC’s) guidelines on inter-institutional transfer of students, repeated study of students as a result of the transfer should not bring additional cost on the UGC, and should not take up funded quota that should have otherwise been made available to students entering institutions or under normal progression. The institution should accept such transferees by way of over-enrolment. In this regard, the inter-institutional transfer of students is considered on a case-by-case basis." (quoted from the website of one of HK's UGC-funded universities.)

slamai

friendlyguy 發表於 15-12-4 23:38
///The first one is to keep a healthy balance between work/study and rest after the DP exam as the f ...

I don't deny that my recommendation has some selfish motives as I have explained before that it originates from a parent's point of view for the benefits of his/her kid.  Selfishness is human nature, isn't it?  From a positive angle, selfishness is a kind of motivation.  However, it should not be out of control which may cause harm to others.  One thing I do want to clarify is that, based on your socialist argument, a tax-paying family have less right to send their kid to local U as compared with a low-income family because the former have the means to send their kid overseas while the latter do not.  Is it justice or 'socialist' justice instead?

annie40

無論原意如何，簡單原則是沒打算讀，便不會多佔任何香港或海外學位了。自己對申請延期一年入學的交費和留位規則不清楚，故此十分慌亂，感謝manning2014的詳盡解釋。

孩子有自己的inner compass,父母只好盡量配合，多謝各位提議和鼓勵。

ps. 仲有私心，在私心和核心價值之間，最後依然要有取，有捨。

friendlyguy

Hi Slamai,

Your question is not relevant to this case. I don’t want to argue any further otherwise I will fall into an endless ideological argument about capitalism, socialism, communism, left wing, right wing…..etc..

Hi Annie,

I support whatever decision you and your daughter made.

Best regards,
Friendlyguy

penguin_chick

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***反觀，留在DSE的同學少了那批競爭者，考DSE時成績反而提升，***

DSE的等級是以水平機準決定，不是拉曲線的，所以少了對手也不會考得高分。

daisychan

penguin_chick 發表於 15-12-6 23:30
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***反觀，留在DSE的同學少了那批競爭者，考DSE時成績反而提升，***

說是水平參照，實際都要維持一定百分比的5**。再者，高手走了，後面的不是排前了嗎？這麼簡單的道理！

penguin_chick

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梁桌偉說限收non-jupas學生，最後只會益中大，超額的IB尖子會流到中大了。不知他知不知到今年有一IB狀元原本只報了中大醫科，港大藥劑，但放榜前一天港大醫學院致電約他面試，最後順利入了港大醫科。他們這麼苦心爭奪尖子，現在郤為尖子設限，難道他們有信心non-jupas尖子報醫科的不會超越25%學額，還是真的收夠25%了事？

nintendo

A bit of side track......
Who knows exactly what happened?
Some students (and schools) simply want to make it a big deal about an offer from MBBS.
Some students chose to be a little subtle. That is great respect to both HKU and CUHK.
Feel bad for HKU. Chose a student that has no integrity at all, and disclose what was supposed to be confidential.
I personally believe every offer (university place, job, etc) should be a deal between two parties and should not be disclosed to others, in particular to the newspaper.
And BTW, I personally know a few students that got offers from both HKU and CUHK, and chose CUHK in the end.

slamai

friendlyguy 發表於 15-12-6 21:15
Hi Slamai,

Your question is not relevant to this case. I don’t want to argue any further otherwis ...

I do not want to argue but I must make it clear that taking up a place in a local U is a cautious strategy for a student who has good academic potential but missed the deadline of Oxbridge application (though not the UCAS deadline for other U's) and has the intention to apply next year.  I have said before that even the brightest student is not guaranteed a place in Oxbridge.  The student can proceed with his/her 2nd year study in the local U if his/her Oxbridge attempt is subsequently not successful.  I have also discussed the tricky scenarios of taking a gap year and there is no need to repeat.  From the above, my question is very relevant to this case (in a situational sense given that annie40 has indicated my recommendation may not suit her girl's case).

ANChan59

他們想收多些NJ，但又想攞掌聲，所以要巧立名目，另外收多此NJ。

中大醫學院幾年前已經發現，NJ收的學士畢業生，年紀較長，學習心態，對人處事較佳，可以對其他同學有正面影響！幾年前，中大一年收15個左右，現在應該差不多。

long0

其實經過大家討論後 就發現目前升學情況 根本地不利弱勢DSE生 因為一直大學想收的學生 都唔係單靠用DSE呢個課程可以訓練出黎 而佢想收的是家庭資本比較強的學生 從名校到補習 呢d并不是弱勢學童可以強求 認清事實大學一直不是可以改變命運的地方 只係錦上添花的地方 完

annie40

People is not consciously aware of they like to listen what they think of even the informations and messages are wrong,  The loudmouth media enjoys to weave  a trap to draw attention that may have declined our mind, and implanted kind of doubt seed to our community.   Agree or not agree.  Be cautious when passing media information to children.  The outcome is disastrous.

judy

其實經過大家討論後 就發現目前升學情況 根本地不利弱勢DSE生 因為一直大學想收的學生 都唔係單靠用DSE呢個課程可以訓練出黎 而佢想收的是家庭資本比較強的學生 從名校到補習 呢d并不是弱勢學童可以強求 認清事實大學一直不是可以改變命運的地方 只係錦上添花的地方 完

應該這麽說：DSE不利弱勢學生(當然我同意有些試得到更公平待遇)。我認為此不好。

judy

說是水平參照，實際都要維持一定百分比的5**。再者，高手走了，後面的不是排前了嗎？這麼簡單的道理！

點解唔係低手走呢？

daisychan

judy 發表於 15-12-8 12:19
點解唔係低手走呢？

現在一般情況是：當本地學校開辦 IB 課程，都是吸引和揀選同級成績偏高的學生入讀 IB 課程。

NoahArk

原帖由 judy 於 15-12-08 發表
點解唔係低手走呢？

走咗嘅低手對留下的低手根本冇影響。十個學生爭二個位，走二個低手，那二個位都輪不到留下的低手。若走的是高手，留下的高手少咗，中手都可有機一搏。

samsam123321

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long0

其實開個post 見到有家長問到野幫到人已經好好
有人話寫極d人都只係會係自己角度睇野
我認為呢個相當正常
人如果唔係自己角度睇事情
呢樣野相當離地
如果你同我講 睇同寫EK的 唔係家長同學生
我會感覺相當靈異同別有用心
我唔相信有人可以全面地分析所有事
香港所有人都說想香港好
但這麼多年下來真的是好了嗎
在我角度由於未能提供最有利環境給下一代
一直在愧疚 資源上的缺失 令她可能未能升大
很想幫忙但只感無力
在IB或 國內生或 任何有能力升讀外國學位的家長面前
我只想說如果他們要的學位不是政府資助學位
我真的一句都不會多口

hogwarts

原帖由 long0 於 15-12-09 發表
本帖最後由 long0 於 15-12-9 12:19 編輯

其實開個post 見到有家長問到野幫到人已經好好

心同感受。

samsam123321

long0 發表於 15-12-9 12:17
其實開個post 見到有家長問到野幫到人已經好好
有人話寫極d人都只係會係自己角度睇野
我認為呢個相當正常

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