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引用:心情仍然未能平服。+剛才從一個家長聚會"逃

原帖由 Ruby1219 於 14-10-20 發表
心情仍然未能平服。
剛才從一個家長聚會"逃走". 一圍十多個香港"crop of the cream" 的中上流闊太,先討論 ...
我欣賞您,支持您!做得很好。

我身邊也有一個有錢朋友,跟您的闊太朋友一模一樣,佢只看見眼前的經濟利益,話佔中打擾佢的賣樓計劃,話佔中的人自私,話估唔到我幾廿歲人都咁蠢,畀人利用云云,仲要加多一句,道不同不相為謀。

結果,又是大家反臉,無朋友做。後來他的物業以破頂價成功出售,佢搵返我,但原來大家的價值觀相距那麼遠,這道裂痕永遠難以填補。



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引用:Quote:Ruby1219+發表於+14-10-20+15:42+心

原帖由 tcmsung 於 14-10-20 發表
好有興趣知道,他們是否送晒子女去強國讀中、大學。

以他們的思維,一定極喜歡強國的公安式執法,他們的 ...
我那位有錢朋友就係話成個佔中運動被美國幕後操控,他狂數美國霸權,侵略別國云云。但他偏偏就送他的女兒到美國讀書。



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發表於 14-10-22 01:37 |只看該作者

引用:我支持民主,好唔鍾意68狗,每日一平果,亦

原帖由 skIII 於 14-10-21 發表
我支持民主,好唔鍾意68狗,每日一平果,亦有睇YAHOO及其他新聞,唔係香港住,冇受TBB洗腦,亦冇受佔中影響 ...
呢場運動基本上全部政黨都龜縮,幾乎無人會將雨傘運動和政黨連繋起來。從前最激進的社民連都主張撤,人民力量都只是默默地躲起來參與。最激進的,原來是學生和一般市民。



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發表於 14-10-22 07:04 |只看該作者
Tommy 發表於 14-10-22 00:58
我欣賞您,支持您!做得很好。

我身邊也有一個有錢朋友,跟您的闊太朋友一模一樣,佢只看見眼前的經濟利益 ...
其實咁係好事,雖然失去一D以為朋友,但可能會認識到一D大家理念相近既人,未嘗唔係好事喎!

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發表於 14-10-22 07:05 |只看該作者
Tommy 發表於 14-10-22 01:04
我那位有錢朋友就係話成個佔中運動被美國幕後操控,他狂數美國霸權,侵略別國云云。但他偏偏就送他的女兒到 ...
呢D邏輯咪同強國人一樣囉!把口說不,但腳很誠實。

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發表於 14-10-22 07:13 |只看該作者
tcmsung 發表於 14-10-22 00:15
難得這邊還有那麽多正義明理的家長。
在高中那邊,原來已經漸漸變成像BK一般的野蠻園地,有個狂人還在大罵 ...
真正賣國就只有中共,因為只有佢先可以用國家土地來換取自己利益,而且歷史證明左。全球買最多美國國庫債券既國家,就係強國,全球最多政府官員家屬移民外國,做外國人既國家,又係強國,將國家財產私自轉移到外國變成自己資產,唔通呢D行為係愛國?

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發表於 14-10-22 09:28 |只看該作者
留在香港的小朋友一定要讀好書,不可以黑白瘨倒,學懂有同理心,將來才可以幫到人。

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發表於 14-10-22 09:44 |只看該作者
基本上香港只是佢地揾錢的地方,佢地係無心為香港好。

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發表於 14-10-22 13:24 |只看該作者

回覆:家長憂噤聲 急送子女留學

說得對,最緊要有同理心、良心。



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發表於 14-10-22 14:33 |只看該作者
tcmsung 發表於 14-10-22 00:15
難得這邊還有那麽多正義明理的家長。
在高中那邊,原來已經漸漸變成像BK一般的野蠻園地,有個狂人還在大罵人賣國,不像一個正常的家長。


以往一到議會選舉前,就是特別多事,有D係新註冊的,一看到就知係搞事的,亦有不少是多年member,平時有文有路,但一講到政治就變臉,突然把口十分惡毒。EK算好好,始終呢邊人流較BK少。BK那邊,直頭失控。最誇張莫過於有人開topic話六四事件是造假,當年冇死過人,而有好多資深member和應同意。有人話:唔係喎,當年文匯報都有報導,結果當然比人圍住鬧。

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發表於 14-10-22 14:41 |只看該作者
Tommy 發表於 14-10-22 01:04
我那位有錢朋友就係話成個佔中運動被美國幕後操控,他狂數美國霸權,侵略別國云云。但他偏偏就送他的女兒到 ...

我都有咁嘅朋友。

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發表於 14-10-22 14:44 |只看該作者
Everyone says loving democracy (including me). But I found many good arguments in the web that for democracy to be good, there are some criteria. Please see the following from what I found from the web:


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An American christian, Gary DeMar, has written the Devil of Democarcy in The American Vision, a Biblical Worldview Minsitry. The following are extracted from his short article:

.......John Winthrop (1588–1649), first governor of Massachusetts Bay Colony, declared direct democracy to be “the meanest and worst of all forms of government.”[1] John Cotton (1584–1652), seventeenth-century Puritan minister in Massachusetts, wrote in 1636: “Democracy, I do not conceive that ever God did ordain as a fit government either for church or commonwealth. If the people be governors, who shall be governed?”[2] In the Federalist Papers (No. 10), James Madison (1751-1836), fourth president of the United States and recognized as the “father of the Constitution,” writes that democracies are “spectacles of turbulence and contention.” Pure democracies are “incompatible with personal security or the rights of property. . . . In general [they] have been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.”[3] These more realistic descriptions of the effects of direct democracy are a far cry from today’s modern appraisal.
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So, contrary to what is widely taught in the schools of the United States and bruited about in the news media and expressions of politicians, the United States is not— in the opinion of one its principle founders and interpreters—a democracy. The Constitution itself, Article IV, Section 4, says: “The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican form of government. . . .” Taken simply literally it is a guarantee of a republican government in the states and a republican government outside and above the states. There is no mention of the word democracy in the Constitution.[4]

What should we think of this? Did these men oppose the democratic process?.......

These men feared that the whims of the majority cut off from an ethical base would prevail if direct democracy were ever accepted as a legitimate form of civil government. On the other hand, these men knew that only “the people” could keep a civil government in check. There was no divine right of kings (or a divine right of representatives or judges), and there must be no divine right of the people. A checking and balancing civil government was the ideal our founders worked for. But if at any time the character of the people changed, the effort would have been for nought.

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The following quote is commonly found in articles in the West: "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largess from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship." The quote was probably written by Professor Alexander Tytler in University of Edinburgh in 1790, according to Loren Collins in his article "The Truth About Tytler".

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Clearly, direct democracy cannot exist in Hong Kong nowadays for three main reasons:

1. Opposite parties do not tolerate each other. Recent examples are Taiwan and Thailand. When one party rules the country, the other party would try to pull it down. The whole country would be in great chaos.
2. Large income inequality exists in Hong Kong (large disparity between the rich and the poor). As the quote in my another message, in direct democracy, the majority would vote for the candidate who promises them with the most benefits. This is always the reason for the collapse of the economy.
3. People hate mainland China. Many people don't want to be ruled by the Communistic Party. Some poitical parties even want to overturn the Communistic Party. I really can't see how we can have direct democracy.

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The following are extracted from Fox News:

A Chinese state-run newspaper’s claim that the United States is helping pro-democracy protesters in Hong Kong is only partially inaccurate, a top foreign policy expert said Monday.
Michael Pillsbury, senior fellow at the Hudson Institute, told Fox News National Security Analyst KT McFarland the U.S. holds some influence over political matters in the region.

"We have a large consulate there that’s in charge of taking care of the Hong Kong Policy Act passed by Congress to insure democracy in Hong Kong, and we have also funded millions of dollars of programs through the National Endowment for Democracy … so in that sense the Chinese accusation is not totally false,” said Pillsbury, author of the upcoming book, “The Hundred-Year Marathon: China's Secret Strategy to Replace America as the Global Superpower.”

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發表於 14-10-22 18:51 |只看該作者

引用:Quote:原帖由+Ruby1219+於+14-10-20+發表心

原帖由 Tommy 於 14-10-22 發表
我欣賞您,支持您!做得很好。

我身邊也有一個有錢朋友,跟您的闊太朋友一模一樣,佢只看見眼前的經濟利益 ...
多謝Tommy!

好似亮燈話齋, "失去"一d 所謂 "朋友", 得到一d 志同道合既真朋友也是好事。



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回覆 Ruby1219 的帖子


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發表於 14-10-22 23:56 |只看該作者
我真心想問下,既然學聯和各佔中發起人咁有決心和勇氣,點解他們不上京向中央表達,做個真英雄,反而要打亂小市民生活呢?

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政經美國佬亡我之心不死,又如何週三 2014-10-22                         
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        從來,我都相信,美國佬「亡我之心不死」,鷹派確實要「圍堵中國」;香港,從來都是一個間諜基地,從國共內戰到冷戰,一直都是英、美、共產黨、國民黨的情報中心,每個領事館、辦事處、新華社、中聯辦,內藏各種各樣情報單位。以前去北京採訪,就有國安托中間人要搵我傾計,成個北京都諜影幢幢,有幾奇?大家唔好扮天真。
美國的 NED,全球到處出錢支援有關民主人權的 project,是公開的事;就等同中國的孔子學院,大花筒用錢在全球設了幾百個點,教漢語和中國文化。這種官方統戰色彩濃厚的組織(中國的孔子學院還是教育部直屬的),不論中美,目標一致︰都是希望向外輸出覺得自己文化中最有價值的東西,這種大國傲慢值得商榷,大國有大國的 agenda,至於受唔受,有無被美國佬利用,就係另一回事。
例如職工盟接受為美國勞聯產聯成立的基金組織資助,近日不斷受口誅筆伐,實在莫名其妙。馬克思的墓碑上,就寫著「讓全世界無產者聯合起來」,這是共產國際主義的其中重要一環,要全世界工人聯合起來,抗拒資本家壓逼;工人無國界,這種主張,中國共產黨應該熱烈擁抱,與外國勢力勞工組織連繫,促進全世界工人的福祉,問題何在?為何中國共產黨的羽翼要開盡輿論機器痛罵?
至於梁振英近日首次直說,佔中有「外部勢力」,還要來自「全球各地」,真係好想知,有甚麼證據?
外部勢力很強悍,他們發明了電力、製造了火車、發明了電話、發展了互聯網、研究很多財技搵快錢,他們有陰謀,收買我們眾多尖子,給他們獎學金,去學他們的技術,而且很多中國留學生學成不歸,誓要成為美國人,我們是否會因為這是「外部勢力」而不去學不去交流?外部勢力好離譜,他們有抗爭經驗、有民主人權的實踐經驗、有公民社會的動員思考,他們舉辦研討會工作坊,我們會否因為這是「外部勢力」而不去學不去交流?有機會的話,為何不去看看他們葫蘆裡賣甚麼藥?
美國佬想全世界實行民主,就等如偉大祖國在世界各地成立孔子學院宣揚禮義廉一樣。如果美國佬幾下散手,就搞得到香港雞毛鴨血,煽動到整個佔領運動,梁振英與中聯辦要好好檢討一下自己,為何操控大部分主流媒體下,仍然不能煽動全香港人站在你一邊。
自己香港自己救,香港人爭取民主自由歷史悠久,心意堅定,而且資訊流通,有獨立思考,又豈可能受到外部勢力影響?
至於「外國勢力」資助物資之說,則笑爆嘴,香港人最缺民主、缺尊嚴,最不缺的就是錢;只要有心人到佔領區任何一個物資站,坐半日,看看是甚麼人送甚麼東西來,你自然會收回這等荒唐的說法。
至於為何建制派把「外部勢力」掛在口邊,樂此不疲?無他,治港無方,民怨沸騰,「外部勢力」就是卸責藉口,向老闆的老闆交代;再者,同步挑起普通老百姓的民族情緒,同仇敵愾。這個標簽,陰險卑鄙,但好使好用,「外部勢力」一出,誰與爭鋒。
外交角力,狡詐陰險,美國佬不介意敵國的城市陷入混亂,我理解我明白;但是香港的當權派,卻不介意自己的城市步入混亂,閘亂落,催淚彈亂放,樂意一步一步激化矛盾,這種狡詐陰險,才更令人心寒。


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打亂小市民生活?呢點基本上係成立既!但要問點解,呢件事之前,我地會覺得香港年青人,一代不如一代,佢地只識打機、上網、索K、做宅男、做宅女等等,歎慣冷氣,飯來張口,高床軟枕,自細由工人湊大,連鞋帶都唔識綁,見工都要阿媽帶去。試想想,點解佢地會瞓街呢?唔通條街既石屎路面比屋企張床更舒服?溫度濕度好舒適?中共既基本法寫明2007,2008年有普選,依家係2014年喇!點解講大話?我點教我兩個仔?到依家中共就話比你地喇!不過係假野,呢個責任,係香港政府和中國政府要負既!



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我想講一講學生為何不北上向中央反映,佢地未去到北京已比海關block住左啦。不過唔通我們要教下一代什麼也要忍不要出聲咩!如果係這樣你可以想像到將來社會貪污,所有野講關係,你覺得我地下一代會如何?

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回覆 亮燈 的帖子

概然他們認為是中央有錯,為何不直接上京請願?
(這是我諗唔明地方)小朋友若發現自己测驗卷被老師改錯,都是直接找老師要求更正。
現在他們卻令到社會市民生活混亂,巴士公司要拖巴士又唔比、電車公司要求將電車駛回車廠又唔比,
連輸界要求讓出一條馬路又唔比,這是民主嗎?
我相信佢地直接上京要求對話,普羅市民才認同他們才是真英雄。

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發表於 14-10-23 09:18 |只看該作者
不是因為漼淚彈令我想把女兒送往外國,是因為某部份反佔人士的行為及惡毒的言行令我想盡快把女兒送到外國去。
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