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原帖由 ANChan59 於 14-04-23 發表
IB 複雜些,你的資料是小心引證。

IB 語文有母語及外語課程,然後再分SL及HL,不是你所說的簡單。不要老是 ...
中文是我們母語,英文只是我們的第二語言。DSE的語文定位就係咁簡單。



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ChiChiPaPa 發表於 14-4-23 10:31
中文是我們母語,英文只是我們的第二語言。DSE的語文定位就係咁簡單。



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Group 1: studies in language and literature (Mother language)

It is a requirement of the programme that students study at least one subject from group 1.

In group 1, students will study literature, including selections of literature in translation, and may choose to combine this with language or performance studies, depending on their choice of course.  Students will choose to study their group 1 subject(s) in a language in which they are academically competent.


In studying the group 1 courses, students are able to develop:

  • a personal appreciation of language and literature
  • skills in literary criticism
  • an understanding of the formal, stylistic and aesthetic qualities of texts
  • strong powers of expression, both written and oral
  • an appreciation of cultural differences in perspective

The range of texts studied in language A courses is broad, and students grow to appreciate a language’s complexity, wealth and subtleties in a variety of contexts. A specific aim is to engender a lifelong interest in literature and a love for the elegance and richness of human expression.

Group 1 consists of three courses:

  • Language A: literature - always available with a prescribed list of authors in 55 languages and available by special request in all other languages provided there is sufficient written literature available.
  • Language A: language and literature – available in 16 languages.
  • Literature and performance (an interdisciplinary subject) – always available in English, and available by special request in Spanish and French.



Also, have HL and SL.


Group 2: language acquisition (Second Language)

It is a requirement of the programme that students study at least one subject from group 2.

The main emphasis of the modern language courses is on the acquisition and use of language in a range of contexts and for different purposes while, at the same time, promoting an understanding of another culture through the study of its language.

Three subjects are available to accommodate students’ interest in and previous experience of language study. The first two subjects are offered in a number of languages.

Modern Languages

  • Language ab initio courses are for beginners (that is, students who have little or no previous experience of learning the language they have chosen). These courses are only available at standard level.
  • Language B courses are intended for students who have had some previous experience of learning the language. They may be studied at either higher level or standard level.



Classical languages

  • Latin or Classical Greek courseworkprovides opportunities for students to study the language, literature and culture of ancient Rome or Greece.

The following courses are available online:


How to slot in the framework?


IBDP                                                HKDSE


Language A
- Literature HL                                      ?
- Literature SL                                      ?
- Language & Literature HL                    ?
- Language & Literature SL                    ?
- Literature & Performance HL
- Literature & Performance SL


Language B
- Language B HL                                   ?
- Language B SL                                   ?
- Language ab initio SL
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原帖由 ANChan59 於 14-04-23 發表
Group 1: studies in language and literature (Mother language)
It is a requirement of the programme  ...
如果大學可接受中文language B sl,就應可接受DSE中文半科。



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另外,學生應可選擇半科的考試提前在中五考,餘下半科在中六考。這讓大學可參考頭半科成績給予conditional offer或fast track program。



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ChiChiPaPa 發表於 14-4-23 11:41
如果大學可接受中文language B sl,就應可接受DSE中文半科。
IMHO, I agree with your point as Chinese is not the mainstream of Medium of Instruction in University. That's not up to you and me to say so. I know English B HL is the minimum for most universities.
Now, we may have the non-local Chinese syllabus, so how can you differentiate them?



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ChiChiPaPa 發表於 14-4-23 11:52
另外,學生應可選擇半科的考試提前在中五考,餘下半科在中六考。這讓大學可參考頭半科成績給予conditional  ...
You mean like GCE AS & AL?
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原帖由 ANChan59 於 14-04-23 發表
You mean like GCE AS & AL?
係。類似GCE AS 和 A2 level。



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ChiChiPaPa 發表於 14-4-23 13:08
係。類似GCE AS 和 A2 level。
I think it's workable and sensible.
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原帖由 ANChan59 於 14-04-23 發表
IMHO, I agree with your point as Chinese is not the mainstream of Medium of Instruction in Universit ...
中國人不能考non local Chinese,但應可考中文半科。IB Group one都有SL啦!



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ChiChiPaPa 發表於 14-4-23 13:14
中國人不能考non local Chinese,但應可考中文半科。IB Group one都有SL啦!
If you have time, look at the Group one HL/SL past papers, you may surprise the standard of syllabus A SL,
SL and HL may have the only difference in number of literature (Not 範文, it's books. ), essays and number of exam papers, the standard is not much lower than you expect.

For example, my son got English A HL PG 6, he wanted to downgrade English from HL to SL in G12 (He took 4 HL at G11) and expected better grade, the English teacher reminded him that his grade more or less the same, the only difference is he read less literature and write less essays and one paper less in the exam.
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ANChan59 發表於 14-4-23 13:30
If you have time, look at the Group one HL/SL past papers, you may surprise the standard of syllabus ...
半科最大的意義係讀少一些,空出時間放在其他科目上,而不是在Grading上做高一些。

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ChiChiPaPa 發表於 14-4-23 13:33
半科最大的意義係讀少一些,空出時間放在其他科目上,而不是在Grading上做高一些。 ...
Just quoted an example to explain the differences, I don't mean grading either. I highlighted the time usage and the standard as well.
Listen to me, read the past papers first.






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本帖最後由 samsam123321 於 14-4-27 20:13 編輯

取消5星星最大得益者係大部分學校,這才是教師提出的原因!如果只有5星,相信狀元人數會大增,到時間間地區名校都分到一個半個狀元,收生才有保障啊。睇返兩界dse, 狀元集中係皇仁,st paul, 果d 超級名校,偶然一個半個係不出名的學校出來。我係地區名校校長都會想有一兩個狀元係我學校啦。點先容易出到狀元,無5 星星就會易好多

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samsam123321 發表於 14-4-27 20:12
取消5星星最大得益者係大部分學校,這才是教師提出的原因!如果只有5星,相信狀元人數會大增,到時間間地區 ...
如果以你的看法,"滅星"最好,皆大歡喜。
等於以前 5 個 band 縮到 3 個 band!
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ChiChiPaPa 發表於 14-4-23 11:41
如果大學可接受中文language B sl,就應可接受DSE中文半科。

ib 有分 group 1 和 group 2 語文。
如果讀 chinese b,即係 group 2,係 second language,學生一定仍有一科 english a,呢科先係 first language。

dse 中文科本來係 first language,英文係 second language。
如果中文降為半科,咁變相冇一係語文係 first language。



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ChiChiPaPa 發表於 14-4-23 13:14
中國人不能考non local Chinese,但應可考中文半科。IB Group one都有SL啦!

ib 的 sl  並唔係等如 hl 的半科。
anchan59 而解釋了 language a sl 並不比 language a hl 易,只是上堂時數少些,做少 d 功課,我不再解釋。
你應該唔係好明 ib 的 curriculum。
就算 language a 選了 sl,並唔代表真係有著數,因為  ib 是三科 sl 和 三科 hl,如果選了 language a sl,就代表其他有三科要讀 hl。其他有好多科的 hl  就真係深好多,主要都係 math 和 science,hl 都係深好多。
其實,一 d 都冇著數。


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Artie 發表於 14-4-28 11:54
ib 有分 group 1 和 group 2 語文。
如果讀 chinese b,即係 group 2,係 second language,學生一定仍有 ...
同意,所以我上面有個表,要考慮如何 slot in 兩種語文。有機會減半後,兩種語文都變成第二語言或更低程度,都無所謂,將來唔好怨大學及雇主唔睇唔認可。
DSE 核心數學已經是半科,類似 Maths SL and Maths Studies 之間, 靠近 MS,  再減半變成1/4 科,unclassified.

最後可能讀完六年,只是中三中四程度,唔知屬 QF 邊種級別。點解唔早 d 轉讀其他課程,走其他路。
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ANChan59 發表於 14-4-28 12:16
同意,所以我上面有個表,要考慮如何 slot in 兩種語文。有機會減半後,兩種語文都變成第二語言或更低程度 ...

很多網友常覺得 ib 好像好著數了,中文可以讀淺 d。
其實,他們未計,如果 chinese 讀了 b,english 就必定是讀 a;
點都要有科一 first language。
ib 的 english a 那個水平的英文,又是不是 dse 學生願意去承受的呢?

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ANChan59 發表於 14-4-28 11:38
如果以你的看法,"滅星"最好,皆大歡喜。
等於以前 5 個 band 縮到 3 個 band!
...
其實比較返banding,ABCDEFU, 123455星,5星星, 我睇唔出有咩分別,我都唔知教育界討論黎做咩,你再睇返hkal grade 的人數,同dse grade 的人數,又有咩分別?e.g.ue 以前擇a 約200人,現在dse english 5 星星又有幾多人?以前好少學校出到AL狀元,每年多數係10個以內,但ce 就20個都有。地區名校點先上到報?就係靠ce 狀元,比較少靠AL 狀元。推測滅5星星後狀元人數會去到20個左右,地區名校又可以上報了。
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