2013 IB Results Reporting Thread

bobbycheung

poonseelai 發表於 13-7-12 00:07
Thanks for sharing.  Excellent results consistently.  Just one question:  I note that about 10% of  ...

Just a sheer speculation on my part.  In general, there is a 3 to 4 point difference between HK students average and that of overseas students (which include students from mainland China).  In 2011, the difference was as big as 6 points.  Perhaps the school's "very tight screening process on student intake" applies more towards HK students.  

shadeslayer

ANChan59 發表於 13-7-11 21:56
Be honest, it surprise me, it doesn't make sense.

I have said CKY's GCSE results are good but less than stellar.  But could not have guessed an average of 30 points.  I hope it is not true.

daisychan

poonseelai 發表於 13-7-12 00:07
Thanks for sharing.  Excellent results consistently.  Just one question:  I note that about 10% of  ...

Just a wild guess:-

Probaby, most of them are overseas students. Look at the statistics, LPCUWC explicitly listed out the scores of local and overseas students separately. The average scores of local students are consistently about 3~6 points higher than those of the overseas students in the past years.

Moreover, academic attainment is not the main selection criterion for entering LPCUWC. Overseas students are not selected directly by LPCUWC, but by overseas UWCs on its behalf.

ANChan59

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You are correct...... Overseas students are selected by other UWCs.
LPC just like Hang Seng Commercial College, they got the top students from other secondary schools in HK.

HKTHK

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Is that the case or could it be students with English as a second language who haven't adjusted sufficiently in two years to take the IB in English?

daisychan

As mentioned in the message from LPCUWC's principal:

" Some of you overcame a personal difficulty and still achieved an excellent result or those of you who arrived with very limited English who not only developed proficiency in English but in other subjects as well. ....."

It is not the first time raised by the school that limited English proficiency may hinder the performance of the overseas students (coming from all over the world and English may not be their native language) in the IB examination.  This may explain why the average scores of overseas students are not high comparatively.

ANChan59

daisychan 發表於 13-7-12 01:08
As mentioned in the message from LPCUWC's principal:

" Some of you overcame a personal difficulty  ...

They take English A or B  ?
If B, they can take their first language for other subjects, right?

HKTHK

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Also, never under-estimate the ability of HK schools to produce scoring machines!  

daisychan

ANChan59 發表於 13-7-12 01:11
They take English A or B  ?
If B, they can take their first language for other subjects, right?

But the fact is all the subjects in Groups 3 to 6 are taught in English.

daisychan

HKTHK 發表於 13-7-12 01:12
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Also, never under-estimate the ability of HK schools to produce scoring machi ...

No discrimination :-

The ratio of overseas students to local students is 70 : 50.

The overall average score of LPCUWC has a higher weighting on the overseas students.

bobbycheung

Could any parent help me on this?  Would a student's applications to universities be prejudiced by the fact he does say Spanish Ab Initio instead of say French B (assuming he will do equally well on both)?  I have this question because there are schools that only do Spanish (but no French at all).  If my kid can manage French B only (but he is not good enough to do French A1 SL as a self-taught subject), it would mean that he will have no choice but to take Spanish Ab Initio provided by the schools. I wonder what difference it will make to his university applications.  Would universities favour a language B subject substantially more than a language Ab Initio subject?  By the way, Spanish and French are just languages I randomly choose to illustrate my problem and they carry no particular meaning.  Thanks!

LeeMama328

bobbycheung 發表於 13-7-12 02:25
Could any parent help me on this?  Would a student's applications to universities be prejudiced by t ...

My 2-cent is :
1 - depends very much on the uni, different uni has different preference
2 - For some, however, if your mother tongue is Chinese but you only go for Chinese B, they may think you are not pushing to your limit
3 - for other foreign languages than English, I am not sure if that matters.  

ANChan59

daisychan 發表於 13-7-12 01:15
But the fact is all the subjects in Groups 3 to 6 are taught in English.

Never mind, that's the fact behind the numbers.

nintendo

LeeMama328 發表於 13-7-12 11:24
My 2-cent is :
1 - depends very much on the uni, different uni has different preference
2 - For some , however, if your mother tongue is Chinese but you only go for Chinese B, they may think you are not pushing to your limit
3 - for other foreign languages than English, I am not sure if that matters.  

其實如果 mother tongue 是 chinese，根本唔可以選中文做 chinese b，學校應該把關。
國際學校學生選 chinese b，是因為他們的確英文是 first language 。
其實 ibo  一定會有清楚的指引比學校，學校亦應嚴格守 ibo  指引，language 選 level 不是隨學校和學生喜好。
唔係話刻意選低一級，拿高幾分咁簡單，如果個個都咁做，豈不是本地學生都可以讀 chinese ab initio？

以往聽過本地大學，在面試是質疑學生為什麼讀 chinese b，其實是因為學生是本地人亦一向讀本地學校，但轉讀 ib  學校又竟然選 chinese b，我覺得是本來選科時的問題。想走精面，就要搏，睇學生想唔想搏啦。如果諗住出國讀二三線大學，相信問題不大。

hkparent

For DBS, do all IB students take Chi A? I ask this because many of their DSE students did not do well on Chi last year.

bobbycheung

Sorry, it's my fault in not making my question clear.  My kid will do English A and a foreign language B (not Chinese) in his existing school.  He is thinking of switching to another school which does not have this foreign language.  So he will have to take another new foreign language Ab Initio (not Chinese again) if he is to make the switch.  Basically, the difference is doing the foreign language B (probably SL) at his existing school OR taking a new foreign language AB Initio at the new school.  Assuming he will get the same marks on both, I am afraid universities would still favour language B a lot more than language Ab Initio.  Hence, my question.

daisychan

nintendo 發表於 13-7-12 12:07
其實如果 mother tongue 是 chinese，根本唔可以選中文做 chinese b，學校應該把關。
國際學校學生選 chin ...

I understand RC requests all their Chinese students to take Chinese A (hence, bilingual diploma) and not Chinese B.

annie40

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其實 ibo  一定會有清楚的指引比學校，學校亦應嚴格守 ibo  指引，language 選 level 不是隨學校和學生喜好。
唔係話刻意選低一級，拿高幾分咁簡單，如果個個都咁做，豈不是本地學生都可以讀 chinese ab initio？
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Thank you for the clarification!  However, parents still want to interfere the learning subjects so as to  to guarantee the untrue high scores.

ANChan59

hkparent 發表於 13-7-12 12:53
For DBS, do all IB students take Chi A? I ask this because many of their DSE students did not do wel ...

In DBS, some students picked French and no Chinese in junior form, as they can't survive in DSE, they joined the IB stream finally. They may take Chinese B in IBDP, this valid for the first two batches. From next year onward, no more Chinese B, only Chinese A; but they can take French or German as second Language.

annie40

读书的成绩特（别是语文课） 是骗得了人, 骗不了自己, 应该读2nd language (A)的, 走去读(B),  应该读2nd language(B)的，　又走去读ab.  , 就算学校愿意同流合污，孩子也是荒废了两年的光阴的没点儿进步，　坐足两年得个低Ｂ（７）分，　十年后一定有遗憾如下：

１）　原来爸妈並不光明磊落
２）　原来未尽力读好2nd languages.兼而浪费两年时间
3)       愿来我这个满分状元是偷回来的，听着别人的嘉奖，我就内疚了
４）　如果重头做，　凭我的毅力和斗志，　真的不应逃避