Anfield vs Yew Chung

clara1477

原帖由 lui 於 13-05-25 發表
本帖最後由 lui 於 13-5-25 00:11 編輯

我個女讀左四年,不是幫學校說話，我未見過一個不是native speaki ...

學校已承認這位non-native 老師英文口語(發音以至grammar）也有些問題 (其實係人都聽得出）。但學校堅持她是一位好有經驗老師喎。

yuen2626

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所以，我兒算是不幸的一群，在國際學校內不能接受native speaker 的教育  

lui

原帖由 clara1477 於 13-05-25 發表
學校已承認這位non-native 老師英文口語(發音以至grammar）也有些問題 (其實係人都聽得出）。但學校堅持她 ...

如果老師連表達自己也有問題，何以可教好學生。你的不幸太昂貴了。

fanfanbb

gracedolly 發表於 13-5-24 23:46
各人有不同思想態度， 善待不同見解，不喜勿插。耀中有部分校址有收pg, 我見過有1歲小朋友上課，安全確實重 ...

Yes, can't agree more.  Kids safety is the paramount concern.

lui

原帖由 Shirley89 於 13-05-24 發表
前一排，我見有 CKY 老師帶學生到又一城 taste 作課外活動，我跟咗佢地一陣。學生態度幾好、有規矩、聽指令 ...

我問了一些家長，他們說field trip 時除了班主任（中、英），會有家長義工，你見到的可能是后者。我也忘記了，但我冇做。如果當天有20-30學生但有幾位以上＂老師＂，那我說對的機會很大。說真的，CKY 是教美國英語，所以cover 好多香港不會教的，而且真係深，Y3 Ancient Greek, y4 Tudor times等，chinlingish 冇可能handle 到。我媽以前是教英文的，有好多都唔識。

jinjinchan

其實，大家講夠未？大家只講事實的一半，對老師和學校真的很不公平。我開初的時候都信晒你地幾個講，話老師真係好唔得。
其實，雖然現在的老師的確不能與母語為英文的老師比，
但她非常有愛心，又有熱誠。
由佢第一日番工開始，足足一星期日日比家長迫到喊住放工。
佢都冇放棄過，一直係好有耐心咁去配合學校要求施教。
而學校方面，亦都為咗補足老師的個人不足，調動所有可以有空間去幫呢班的外籍老師，
去支援呢班的學習。一星期得番一兩堂係呢位老師一個人教。
你地又日日去學校嘈，又喺運動日叫家長簽名，唔幫你簽你就黑我地臉。
又話要嘈去傳媒度。
其實你地想點？
換咗老師後，其實班上秩序同學習進度都好好，比以前更好。
又大部份時間有兩位老師在課室照顧小朋友。
我覺得雖然學校臨時臨急請唔番一個外籍係令人失望，
但學校都做咗好多野去幫番我地班小朋友。
呢啲你地提都唔提，唔覺得自己好小家咩？
唔鍾意學校可以唔好讀，唔好影響外間對耀中的印象。

我小朋友由兩歲班讀到依家，不論課程、學習進度、老師關愛、小朋友進展等，
我地都十分滿意，亦有好大部份家長一樣。
我地都好討厭你地成日搞事。
你地小朋友表現一般，或學得唔好，會唔會係有其他原因？
家長又負了什麼責任？家庭教育在這個年紀比學校教育影響更大。
不如自己花多啲時間，身教重於言教，教好自己小朋友，唔好喺學校搞事仲好啦！

fanfanbb

Having read through the above comment, my impression towards YC getting worse. A school fail to honour her promise, parents have the right to complain. Where the teachers are crying everyday after school is irrelevant. Parents pay a substantial tuition fee, they should have expectation.

bb8886

其實每間學校總會有人滿意，有人不滿. 好視乎個人的觀點角度和自我感覺，當然每個人的要求同standard都不盡相同，所以對學校的評價都唔一樣.
對於未讀過該校的家長，當然希望聽多d在校家長的意見作為參考. 在現今呢個社會，我相信大家還是可以發表自己的言論，爭取自己希望得到的權益. 對於不同的聲音，我們都會聽取並自我解讀.
作為父母，大家都希望係自己能力範圍內俾小朋友提供最好的讀書環境. 所以，我的小孩係Anfield讀緊，仍在此詢問大家的意見.
討論下姐，不要太勞氣！

fanfanbb

bb8886 發表於 13-5-26 22:14
其實每間學校總會有人滿意，有人不滿. 好視乎個人的觀點角度和自我感覺，當然每個人的要求同standard都不盡 ...

Yes and agree. Thanks for the post, it makes me more understanding. I prefer Anfield and shall give up YC, too complicated over there, given the complicated issues over there.

bb8886

You are welcome! We are just sharing our views. Which campus is your child going to?

minirat

My boy will be attending Anfield Nursery at Whampoa in incoming Aug.  I didn't apply Yew Chung from the beginning.  Not that YC is not as good as Anfield but my priority is geuine English environment and just thought Anfield suits us better.

I can understand the frustrations of some YC parents regarding the teacher incident.  Paying such high school fees for kindergarten level, it is inevitable that they hope the school will meet their expectations which to me are fair since YC is well known for bilingual language development.  Its easy to suggest quitting the school if the parents are unhappy with the school, but is it really that simple, especially for the kids?  I don't know how aggressive are these unhappy parents at school but those who commented in this thread are just speaking their thoughts and not offensive at all.  They are not doubting the capability of the teacher except her English proficiency.

fanfanbb

bb8886 發表於 13-5-26 23:22
You are welcome! We are just sharing our views. Which campus is your child going to?

I have applied the 2-yr PN class in Whampoa and K1 in Kowloon Tong.  People said Kowloon Tong campus seems better but they don't have PN, only play groups or Pre-K for those born in particular months.  Yes, I also think Anfield's English environment will be better than Yew Chung, and they have Putonghua.  

But now some said Kingston is good, too.  

As a parent, we only wants to give our "best" to the kids.  I also found those expressed their views towards the school and not aggressive at all.  Same as the above post, parents chose Yew Chung on the expectation that they provide good language environment, have English proficiency, but now ends with a non-native teacher.  Also note that changing another school is not an easy or feasible option.  Those disappointed parents have my great sympathy. I guess my action will be more aggressive if I were one of them.   

poonseelai

jinjinchan 發表於 13-5-26 16:59
其實，大家講夠未？大家只講事實的一半，對老師和學校真的很不公平。我開初的時候都信晒你地幾個講，話老 ...

Hi jinjinchan, I appreciate the extra help provided by the school due to the sudden change of class teacher who was supposed to have signed a contract with the school and would only leave before contracts expired due to very special reasons.  It is also difficult for the school to find another teacher within a short period of time.  What is important to me in such a situation is what the school would do to minimize any "damages" to children's learning.  Sounds like YC is on the right track.
No school can meet all demands of every single parent, and it is good that you are happy with your choice so far.

poonseelai

For me, language proficiency is important.  University placement is also important as I believe most parents would like their children to enter into good universities.  YC's 2012 placement is set out below for parents' reference.

http://www.ycis-hk.com/files/U%2 ... 0profile%20page.pdf

minirat

原帖由 小之爸 於 13-05-27 發表
我的女兒將於9月入讀黃埔ANFIELD幼兒班。唯一令我擔心的是該校不是用NATIVE SPEAKER教學生。老師多是菲律賓 ...

Hi will be daughter be attending am or pm session in coming Aug?

Personally I am not so concerned about the nationality of the teacher and whether they got their own accents, as long as they can speak good and proper English.  We shall see about that.

minirat

原帖由 小之爸 於 13-05-27 發表
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AM session. My daughter attended a playgroup there before and the instructor to ...

Oh we might be classmates!  We shall observe the English standard then.  Keep in touch!

clara1477

原帖由 fanfanbb 於 13-05-26 發表
Having read through the above comment, my impression towards YC getting worse. A school fail to hono ...

Agree.  作為家長，我覺得overall YC 的的師資是很好的。问题是在這事件中，學校的處理手法。在聘請老師時， 明顯地，並沒有考慮對小朋友的影響，家長的期望-為何家長要送子女來？聘請後亦没有考慮做一些行動來補救。事實上，如果沒有家長投訴，學校也不會調動native 老師幫手。是家長爭取回來的。我想学校已上了宝貴的一課。

flashingcat

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