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shadeslayer  What was more distasteful, was talent's being so rude to, and critical of, comments with good intention

Yes, that was completely uncalled for but he is on much better behavior today.  And I do want to hear if he has something interesting to say.  

shadeslayer

talent2000 發表於 13-4-15 22:33
45 years? It is just a flash in our educational history. I am not specialist in it but I have read s ...

If 45 years is the reason for not trusting IB because it is too young, what is HK DSE like?

shadeslayer

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talent2000  你真係不再講，笑大人把口。我同你戰友講得不夠清楚？直接回答你，你又頂不順。  發表於 5 小時前

Xxxx

你絕對有自由不回答，但你用點評寫左三十三個字，無一個字和別人的問題有關。如果這是你所說的理性討論，明白了。

shadeslayer

talent2000 發表於 13-4-16 02:34
最後再講清楚一次。第一，本人尊重任何教育制度及理性討論。第二，IB在香港已經被太商業化而失去其真正教育 ...

I respect gentlemen and lady.

最後再講清楚一次。第一，本人尊重任何教育制度及理性討論
Xxxxx


由你鬧人的文被 EK 封了，到現在你的所有回答，包括你剛舉的七點 IB 不好的理由，既不貼題，又沒道理，更不可能稱為 gentleman-like or lady-like。你鬧人咁耐，別人一句聲也未出。誰是 gentleman 顯然易見。不是 gentleman or lady 是否可以不尊重，可以鬧？

lillymarie

請問若果孩子的語文能力，尤其講和寫不太特出，是否不太適合讀IB diploma?

edea

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annie40

相信任何中学, 大学, , 招收学生, 不会主观的要求IB不IB, 重要是孩子的素质,那管他们来自那种课程体系.  当然今天IB 热流, 可能有少许印章分, 过多两年出多些不外如是的学生, 大家照旧无面比吧!

I do want parents keep in mind that the real gold is not the trophies, it is the struggles to get the trophies.  Look back, the struggles are very useful for all life.  

annie40

talent 2000,

果然是高人, 搅到Anchan, HKTHK, shadeslayer 跟你嗲左甘耐,

我的立场比较简单:

我钟意IB, 点解? 直觉而已, 学校有得读咪读咯, 相信他们不会点我,  唔认为IB是高级D, 见到非常迷恋IB, 言谈话语中十分飘飘然的,(特别对住不是读IB的家庭), 有点吃不消!

如果唔改搭其他船, 你的孩子似乎也会念IB 吧?

沿途有你, 真的十分热闹!!!!! 希望够班同你讲野.

redkoni

恕怪多事，我是普通家長，非甚麼課程專家，對IB無感覺，對我小朋友將來升學仍抱着見步行步的心態，不認同世界會有靈丹妙藥能夠使我小朋友比別人孩子更優秀。但有一點我認為比課程更重要，就是小朋友讀書其實也是學做人，所以我經常提醒我小朋友，一隻手掌拍不響，多欣賞別人的優點，不期然會減低自我澎脹，至於將來的路怎走，還得靠自己的修為和智慧。

我的立場更簡單，每個人一定有其優點，包括talent2000和我自己！

ANChan59

非常興奮看到一篇言之有物的分享，相比一般歐美對lB的評論，有過之而無不及。突顯局限性，更好作合適選擇。

建議閣下將此回應另開新帖，一同理性討論。

mesmerising

然而，IBD所標榜與其他學制不同之處，例如：Theory of Knowledge, Extended Essay, CSR等，在一些優質的中學裡，早已包函以上之原素在其六／七年之中學課程和教學模式中，那些學生，無論最終報讀甚麼學制，例如IBD，英式的A Level或美式的AP等，及上了大學後也能同樣優秀及出色。可是，若那些優質中學選擇了只提供IBD，則會受先前所說有關IBD之局限，而失去了A Level或AP 等學制之靈活性及彈性，部分不適合IBD的學生便會受影響，孰得孰失，就留待家長自己衡量了。

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這段正正說出了我心裏所想的。

mesmerising

- IBD之評核方式中，有一定比例是靠校內老師作校內持續評核，這樣可能會產生一些問題，例如，學校老師的公平公正性。雖然IBO設有機制去訓練老師及抽驗學校老師的評核水平，但若個別學校或老師心術不正，把學校短暫利益放在首位，要偏幫自己的學生，甚至存心欺騙IBO之審核制度也絕對不難。

xxxxxxxxx

這段擴闊了我的思維及考慮！謝謝！

shadeslayer

少見的高水平分析文章。

除了幾間直資開雙軌班，和 ESF 有 IB/BTEC 外，有冇其他香港學校，包括私校，國際學校，行雙課程？

話說回頭，這題目開首所轉載的文章，談的是孩子由傳統學校轉 lB ，所以最合適的比較是與 NSS 比較。

jeff76916

Arising from one point raised in oblivion's intelligent article, my nerve is touched again. Because, taking DSE as an example, some good schools wouldn't drill their students that much in achieving good results for the school ( yes, for the schools), by giving time to students to have more inspirational education and to develop more interests. This is a fact that u would know if u talk to your school principal friends. Now, for IB schools, I start to find that however wellintentioned IB is, once examinations are involved, school can be result oriented in their education ( or training). This would be more acute when the competition between IB schools becomes keen. One example may be that schools choose to take Chinese subject as foreign language subject in taking the final public examination, in order to achieve more colorful overall examination results for the school. Anyone has any knowledge as to how serious this undesired practice or approach is developing in IB schools?

shadeslayer

Annie123 發表於 13-4-16 20:05
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RCHK 不是行雙軌，但可以要求學校安排轉往其他 ESF 學校讀 GCSE 或 BTEC  (當然 ...

Anne,
Thanks but how is this possible, I mean transferring from a PIS ESF school to an aided ESF school?  Unless of course you apply to aided ESF school from scratch just like anyone.

shadeslayer

mesmerising  我也在想為何只談AL AP而omit NSS. 大概這已subtle 地表明了oblivion的一些想法？  發表於 7 分鐘前

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AP and A-level are established exams and comparing IB with them is reasonable.  NSS is new, may be it is not fair to compare?

Anyway, the curriculum is one important aspect of a school, but not everything.  Much like language is an important aspect of a school, but not everything.

Do you send your child to a new IB school, or an established NSS school? Or an established IB school vs NSS DSS?   Which was the choice the parent in the first article have to make.