校際音樂節賽果往往出人意表....

honeyBB

演奏完畢,全場拍晒手掌,但三甲不入,仲要低分....
反而三甲人選,有甩有錯,拍子唔0岩..........公佈結果時,大家O....咀.

Charlotte_mom

評判心水, 往往唔同聽眾, 作為家長, 聽左自己小朋友個VERSION, 當然覺得"合情合理應該係咁", 但評判聽既係OVERALL表達, 感情, DETAIL位, 而唔係家長(包括我)只留意人地邊個位失誤, 邊度唔夠自己果個好 (咁講好衰, 但事實呀)

而且, 去得比賽就要接受現實, 評審係OBJECTIVE的, 永遠都係, 就算去到國際級比賽都係咁, 睇開D啦

marcuscyrus

今年去左幾場不同樂器的比賽，不約而同幾位評判都講：music is not just playing all the notes out accurately, but u need to really understand it
我相信本地好多小朋友在這方面係比較弱的

jk67jk

music is not just playing all the notes out accurately, but u need to really understand it

我嗰場都係！

Candy925

marcuscyrus 發表於 13-3-15 14:30
今年去左幾場不同樂器的比賽，不約而同幾位評判都講：music is not just playing all the notes out accura ...

我嗰場唔係, 相信因為冇幾個人做到 "accurately".

相反, 評判話, "seems all players are uncomfortable with this piece", 我諗我嗰場d人表現真係好差.

Glau

我地只會留意參賽者有無彈錯, 評判角度可能係以整首樂章既流暢, 節奏同感情既表達.

tmlhk

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這問題真正的確很嚴重.
學音樂,  only play notes as the score,  可以話注定失敗.

歌曲風格,  意景,   作曲家背景,   作曲意圖原因.




N211個隻, 我要求弓法上有少許不同,  做落弓mf漸強甩弓去結束(即2下down bow)
(原譜up bow, 無表明dynamics)

佢 and 佢家長問,   這樣做會扣幾多分,   

come on!!!    你可以去考個考官,   唔係下下係個官黎考你.

怕死就乜都突破唔到.

seblee

One Point I don't understand:
For Violin Grade 3, a prescribed requirement is to use Mute. This requirement is meant to be an intergal part of the Rules & Regulation. So failure to use Mute and follow the requirement should render disqualified automatically. How come the adjudicator can give a competitor who did not use mute the 3rd place and later commented in her speech that if he used the mute, he would rank 1st. . The adjudicator can by all means can give discretion as to artistic matters under the Regulation but has no authority to 'change' the Rules & Regulations!!

四隻貓

其實我都覺得大多的評判對拍子錯, 音錯/音準也不是太介意, 反而更重視是參賽者的音樂感.

每人的喜好,重視的地方也不同, 你覺得好的, 我可能有相反意見.
我們只能尊重評判的決定. 也要教孩子尊重評判的決定, 學習接受不同的意見.
從來都是實力+努力+緣份.
孩子盡力做到了自己的最好, 就算沒獎, 比賽過程中總會有得著, 孩子便已是大贏家了.

marcuscyrus

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其實好多家長都係會唔明，音樂係唔會行扣分制，係聽哂你成個performance，然後評判比一個認為你deserve o既分數。有時d家長都會問：xx同學彈呢首係快過我地，駛唔駛加快。咁..你快左o個兩格，然後炒哂，又點計先?

tmlhk

seblee 發表於 13-3-15 15:40
One Point I don't understand:
For Violin Grade 3, a prescribed requirement is to use Mute. This req ...

小朋友發音較弱,  不似成年人個種力勁,   

adjudicator 可能覺得出黎ge feeling 似用左sordino

就算係worldcup football,   裁判判錯都唔係乜新鮮事.

個regulation 係咁寫,   可能只係max fine (最高罰款,  並不是定額罰款)

bebebe12345

哈哈、誰打了電話去問作曲家!!!
力勁又可以硬了。
弓飄又如何?
去聽下Hong Kong String Final啦!

seblee

tmlhk 發表於 13-3-15 15:48
小朋友發音較弱,  不似成年人個種力勁,   

adjudicator 可能覺得出黎ge feeling 似用左sordino

The Rules and Regulations are meant to ensure the fairness of the open competition and an Adjudicator is meant to be a professional. The Adjudicator's profession is, on one hand, to exercise her judgment on the artistic performance of competitors while on the other hand uphold the Rules & Regulations. In all open competition, I don't think the Adjudicator has such right to change the Rules & Regulations.

It is not the case that the referee has exercised wrong judgment in a world football match, because such is within his authority and discretion.  I recall in the previous interschool athetic meet in Wanchai a year before, a requirement for the relays is that the participants of the same school has to be in the same set of uniform. A school's team did not comply with this requirement and was disqualified even though the team has won such relay. This is a matter of fairness!!!

marcuscyrus

如果該小朋友唔用mute都能夠做到同樣效果，其實我又真係唔覺得好大問題(musically speaking)

karenchan99

其實總共有幾多個小提琴評判，如果每場不是單一評判，而是兩三位，大家會否覺得公平啲？不過如果多過一個評判，支源，流程又複雜好多

marcuscyrus

Then application fee will be tripled

bebebe12345

Hong Kong String....Gold Medal....Tom Lee.....Piano Concerto....都是二位評判.....
始終是Piano較正常。

seblee

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"Musically", yes, but we are talking about the context of a open competition of which rules and regulation shall prevail.

It is not an issue  that he did not deserve a 3rd place for reason he did not perform well without the mute (indeed, he played very well) . But it is more important for him to learn a lesson that he needs to comply with the prevailing rules and regulations, failing which, he shall pay the price despite his hard work.

Bao.Jin.Dup

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