有冇家長后侮選了國際學校，而非傳統小學？

HKTHK

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Interesting that IS students would like to send their children to LS.  All of my friends who went to IS didn't consider it and even for those who did, they don't think they can help with homework so gave up the idea in the end.

Shootastar

I sent my 2 kids to LS to receive primary school education. The local primary schools are good but not the top ones. After they completed theri primary schools, they wished to study IS so I arranged them to try one. Fortunately enough, my son was admitted to an IS (not ESF). My second one was also transferred to that IS several years later when she completed her P.6. It was easier for her to be admitted because of her sibling in the same school.

Because of the strong foundation in Chinese and Maths, both of them excelled in the IS. My kids had offers from top US colleges (ranking top 20). But none of them chose to attend the US colleges. My son chose to study law in a top school in U.K. while my daughter chose to study in HKU.

So it is not a bad idea that the kid receives primary education in a local school. If he can cope with the learning environment in local secondary school, there is no need to make a switch. If he wants to explore other options, then make a try in an IS.

As to ISs, I think their standards are more or less the same. Although you may find that a particular IS has many students admitted to Ivies or equivalents, most of them are American citizens or hold green cards. If you aim to be admitted to an Ivies through an IS without the US citizenship, the chance is not very high. So it is easy to make a beautiful mistake that IS can send more kids to Ivies than local schools.

aidan08

回復 HKTHK 的帖子

無錯，你都講得啱，因為我嗰個朋友本來係好想送個女入LS，但最終佢都頂唔順日日只有做功課及溫書的生活，加上怕咗LS的入學試，所以而家正搵返IS。不過，而家入IS都係談何容易？

仲有，我以前有個同事係土生土長香港人，屋企人都係正宗香港人，講廣東話，但佢細個讀ESF直到大學入咗港大，但佢唔識講廣東話，只係識聽，更加唔識寫同睇中文。所以，比得仔女讀IS，又唔想佢哋唔識中文，家長真係要下苦功！

elmostoney

sorry, but I am not aware that Ivy leagues give preference to US citizens.  

HKTHK

回復 aidan08 的帖子

How is he going to find a job?  Are there many companies in HK that would hire a HKU graduate who doesn't know Chinese?

HKTHK

回復 Shootastar 的帖子

I think it is more because of parents being alumni or donations?

21Ckid

回復 elmostoney 的帖子

I think your info is pretty much outdated. The all in cost for top tier u in US is about US$80k+.

aidan08

回復 HKTHK 的帖子

我以前在一間出版英文雜誌的出版社做，嗰位同事係寫稿的，無需要用中文。佢寫嘢好好，好多客睇佢寫D嘢以為佢係好有經驗，實情佢只係個初出茅廬的廿二歲小妹妹。我以前做嗰間出版社好多人唔識中文，好多新加坡人，佢哋都唔識寫同睇中文.....even係華人！

elmostoney

唔講中文, 我覺得係屋企問題多過學校! 我都識唔少人讀is (esf, cis, etc.) , 唔鍾意睇同寫中文就係, 但係就絕對會講同識講.

Shootastar

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If you check the admission statistics from the Ivies, you will find that on average, the foreign students admitted in a typical year is about 8% or less.

For example, Harvard and Yale admitted 1,600 a year. The number of foreign students admitted is around 140 for each one. If you divide 140 by about 200 countries or territories in the world, no 1 place is alloted to a particular place, say Hong Kong. If you are an American or holding a green card, you compete with other Americans for the rest of 1,460 places. Although it is still difficult to get a place, (out of 20,000 to 30,000 application) the chance is still much better.

If you want to be admitted to Harvard, Stanford, Yale, Princeton, MIT etc, you need 4.0 GPA plus IB (44 or more) plus SAT (2,250+) plus SAT II (790+ for 3 subjects) plus very strong leadership and service experience (even if you are an American).

Shootastar

回復 HKTHK 的帖子

If you are an alumni, the odds are better so long as you make consistent donations each year and the accumulated donations are impressive. I would have thought that if you are an alumni, your spouse or you should been an American, so your kid should be an American as well.

You can read from newspaper that Mr. Chow failed to secure a place in Harvard for his kids even he made an US$2.0 million donation.

If everything is equal, I bet the college would admit an American citizen than a Hong Kong student. So if a Hong Kong (not holding an American passport or green card) is admitted to an Ivy, his/her performance in all aspects should be superb.

Shootastar

The average lodging and tuition fee should be around 50K to 55K for priviate US colleges. If you take into account the books, travelling and daily expenses, you need to pay about 60K to 65K to study in an American college each year.

HKTHK

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I don't think many students from HK at Ivy Leagues become naturalized as American citizens.  Most return to work in HK after a few years.

Shootastar

回復 HKTHK 的帖子

You may probably be correct.

Your kid may have an edge if you are an alumni - they call it a legacy case.

According to my observations from my kids' school, those who were admitted to Ivies or equivalents are mostly Americans.

21Ckid

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The "market price" for donation is about US$5 million plus a good family background. The US$2 million (for 2) was no enough. They were either tricked by the so called middleman or just want to "save up" 80%.

HKTHK

回復 21Ckid 的帖子

And if you have that kind of money and the opportunity to donate and get your child in, would you do it?  I know I won't.  I believe in working hard and earning the things you want in life.  

Shootastar

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I won't have the money to make the donation. However, if I did have, I would not give such donation to buy a place in the Ivies. There are a number of elite universities in the world. Hong Kong has 3 universities placed in the top 100 ranking.

laorenjia

另一個香港人難入ivy或top tier universities 嘅原因可能係implied quotas for ethnic groups.香港人要同萬千強國精英學生爭，並非易事。有報道美國嘅ABC都儘量隱瞞自己嘅Asian origins嚟報名，因以ABC身份報競爭較大。分分鐘入籍澳門，攞住葡萄牙護照(唔知重可唔可以)嚟申請會易好多。

21Ckid

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I don't know their vetting criteria, and how good a family background is good enough, but i suppose most of those who pass would consider US$5 million a spare change. And somehow, if you are a world class tycoon, they expect it from you.

If i am a billionaire then i think i may, in particular if i am new rich, because pedigree is so important. Sad, but that's the reality of life.

21Ckid

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I think by the time our kid grows up, it will be much much tougher, because you would be facing the best of the best from the 2 billion+ people from mainland, india, korea, etc in which you can easily find some scoring almost full marks in SAT etc. Hongkongers will be squeezed out. So forget about the ivy leagues and oxbridge. The 3 top u in hongkong will be the best practical choices.

Nonetheless, I still plan to put my kid in IS so he can speak good english (and hopefully mandarin) and in any event, have a happy childhood.