名校教了我什麼 — 女校生的反思

tamm

I agree this is the mentality of 名校生 - at least all of those I met:

它貫輸的價值觀是七個字——識時務者為俊傑。不單校長，[url=http://adex.baby-kingdom.com/www/delivery/ck.php?bannerid=591]老師[/url]、同學，都很懂得做人——做一個成功的主流香港人，當然離不開一個錢字。

motherotk

That's a really good discussion... My personal experience from a so call "famous girl school", very familiar stories, familiar feelings.  familiar experiences...the kind of values the conveyed from the school education and teachers are very "elite" values..

From my past education experience with these "elite" schools, I will never have my kids go to girl or boy school starting from  primary schools. Secondary schools may consider some schools with more liberal values...definitely not the school I came from...

The elite values are part of the results of British colonialism and Christian values... without critical reflections to appreciate other culture and to appreciate diversities

Someday I was awakened of my "vanity" due to new experiences over these "stupid and vanity" values, then you realized what an "education" you have been going through!! Then you realized what is a good education and what kind of education you can avoid for your kids to avoid possible future "disaster" or "mental health problems".
Personal experience may bring some bias, still is part of the reality...

[ 本帖最後由 motherotk 於 10-12-7 09:06 編輯 ]

juliancy

What she writes does not appear to serve the objective or anyhow logically reach the conclusion that "寫這篇文章，是希望香港人不要盲目貪慕名牌。所謂名校的教育理念，你作為家長是否認同？更重要的，是你希望學校教曉你的子女什麼？", even though such an objective/conclusion can never be wrong.

There is no contradiction between a competitive style of schooling and the values and perspective that the write considers important.  Her school remains to have been a positive influence on her, having made her fight and struggle and excel.  Didn't she get tough in the process? And the schooling did not deprive her of all the other opportunities to develop the values and perspective that she has now as a news reporter.

We can't argue over values.  Just as the writer can despise classmates who cared only about girlie things, not few people in society would despise the unprofessional (if not disgraceful) industry of news reporting in Hong Kong (can't call it journalism indeed) whose workers care only about deadlines than facts or social justice.  (Actually the quality of that article looks quite a piece of self evidence.) The game of value imposition never ends.

[ 本帖最後由 juliancy 於 10-12-8 11:28 編輯 ]

KK07

唔好把'名校'神化,亦無需要把它妖魔化.
我都算係名校家長,但我家絕不是富有人家.  我把小孩送進名校是因為名校
-有較好的讀書風氣,學生學術水平較高 (以公開試成績計),入大學機會率較高
-學生自信較高 (純因公眾對名校生的較高評價與期望),但自信高可令學生有更強的動力去學習更多, 這是相輔相成的
-個人較喜歡有宗教背景的學校,畢竟向善愛人是宗教的根本意義
但任何學校都是一個社會的縮影,有勢利的人,有識時務的人,亦有如作者所說去追求真,善的人. 我從來不會認為讀名校的人一定會高人一等,不錯你成為律師,醫生的機會可能較高,但一樣可以是無公義的律師,無良的醫生,所以家庭對學生的德育培養是最重要. 如果我們一慨而論將名校label為貴族化,'白鴿眼'等等,那等於說"為富者一定不仁","劫富者一定濟貧". 那是十分錯誤的邏輯.

invitation

原帖由 ahmi 於 10-12-6 18:24 發表
希望沒有入錯座. 我也是中文小學派位入spcs，但當年好像沒分精英班，A班的確是會有一些外籍同學的，可能我沒她感受那麼深是因為我不是A班? 交朋友對外來生是會有點困難，畢竟大部分同學也由直屬小學直升，她們分分鐘認識了6-10 ...

invitation

agree!!!

原帖由 Homade 於 10-12-6 23:20 發表

我覺得呢篇文章只係反映一個入世未深，知少少扮代表的大作。呢個世界每處都有窮有富，只要窮得有骨氣，有上進，有理想，何需理世俗人眼光，學校只係人生的踏腳石，讀得好與唔好，係個人的功力，每個人讀書都希望力爭上游，邊有人望自己越讀越屎。

至於現在好多人都對名校指指點點，人云亦云，真係唔明，你唔鍾意名校咪唔好入去讀囉，冇人迫你，到你入左去讀，又嫌三嫌四，何必呢！世事冇十全十美，再有機會俾你揀，你大可揀間爛仔學校，同佢地打成一片，咁呢個係唔係你當初的決定，問心啦！

invitation

難道你識個作者? 而且read到佢個mind?

原帖由 iantsang 於 10-12-7 00:21 發表
I think it is my fault of not stating my comments clearly, so please accept my apology.

Agree she is not writing for a very small number of schools, she is actually writing about just one school with ...

artroboy

心胸狹窄的小女生用文字以去平衡心理的文章., 不屑一看.:;pppp:
but 最令我驚訝既係......咁既寫作水平同文采都可以揾到飯食做記者......睇黎香港呢個"文化沙漠"之名真係 非浪得虛名也.... .   

原帖由 panbaby 於 10-12-7 00:34 發表
看了這文章令人最不滿的地方不是作者的個人感受, 作者的個人感受我好尊重, 香港有自由表達言論的機會

我個人最不滿的是明明是作者母校培育了她, 佢自己都咁講, 但文中不停咁暗示母校看風頭97後重普通話, 佢話 : 識 ...

cherubic

Despite her poor Chinese, the author did express the mentality of people who graduated from elite schools.  With the implementation of mother-tongue language and allowing only about 100 EMI schools some years ago, together with most traditional elite schools changing to DSS, I find that parent's wish to "push" their kids to these schools become even stronger.  Most are proud of their kids being accepted into one of those.  I find that they will consider it as part of their belongings, along with their LV, Benz, and showing it around.  These do affect the kids' value.  Under these circumstances, what kind of person the kids will be?

artroboy

如果係經濟能力許可 加上小朋友有能力既, 入到係等於有一定的前途, 值得.
我相信大部份的名校生都係鬥成績多過鬥有錢, 路遙知馬力, 成績好的一定會受到其他人既喜愛, 不用過多憂慮.

原帖由 KKLmama 於 10-12-7 13:51 發表
好多謝Wynma, thomasha, I/LOVE/3T等等幾位嘅意見, 其實最近真係反反覆覆去諗, 收咗唔讀真係好唔抵, 特別係我地覺得囡囡能力可以應付, 只係擔心心理質素問題, 而且最慘係我地唔識讀DGJS的小朋友, 唔知現今實況係點,  ...

PoPofamily

原帖由 artroboy 於 10-12-7 14:07 發表
如果係經濟能力許可 加上小朋友有能力既, 入到係等於有一定的前途, 值得.
我相信大部份的名校生都係鬥成績多過鬥有錢, 路遙知馬力, 成績好的一定會受到其他人既喜愛, 不用過多憂慮.
...

鬥成績和鬥有錢是不同組群。以前要鬥成績因為F.6好少位，随時卄五分樓下都入唔到，尤其是末有拔尖制度前，而家直上S.6應該好好多。

[ 本帖最後由 PoPofamily 於 10-12-7 14:57 編輯 ]

lauerica

lauerica, 請問點解係無間道呢?
搞下gag者，冇特別意思。
好多謝Wynma, thomasha, I/LOVE/3T等等幾位嘅意見
點解冇我份既

invitation

同意 X 2.  

原帖由 traeh 於 10-12-7 01:59 發表

多謝你點出最大問題，我睇呢篇文章的確好唔滿意，但一時間，又講唔出最大問題，原來就係呢樣！同意　！ 引用:

原帖由 panbaby 於 10-12-7 00:34 發表
看了這文章令人最不滿的地方不是作者的個人感受, 作者的個人感受我好尊重, 香港有自由表達言論的機會

我個人最不滿的是明明是作者母校培育了她, 佢自己都咁講, 但文中不停咁暗示母校看風頭97後重普通話, 佢話 : 識 ...

puzzledmama

I cannot agree with you more! Right attitude and clear mind!
These days, I find that many people, esp. those parents who cannot secure a place in their favoured schools, tend to 妖魔化 some elite schools and overgeneralise their personal opinion to all DSS schools. If that is really the case, I feel pity on them and sincerely hope that their biased mind will not adversely affect their kids.

原帖由 KK07 於 10-12-7 10:38 發表
唔好把'名校'神化,亦無需要把它妖魔化.
我都算係名校家長,但我家絕不是富有人家.  我把小孩送進名校是因為名校
-有較好的讀書風氣,學生學術水平較高 (以公開試成績計),入大學機會率較高
-學生自信較高 (純因公眾對名 ...

dumppy

理想歸理想, 鮮魚行校長的教育理念很多人讚同, 包括我在內.  但試問家長們是否把鮮魚行學校放在心儀小學的首位?

KK07

Thanks......  :)

原帖由 puzzledmama 於 10-12-7 15:12 發表
I cannot agree with you more! Right attitude and clear mind!
These days, I find that many people, esp. those parents who cannot secure a place in their favoured schools, tend to 妖魔化 some elite scho ...