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發表於 10-11-19 22:48 |顯示全部帖子
應該咁講,睇完你的說法我梗加唔會坐定粒六以為4年後可以收成,自己冇得放鬆架 :)

PS,我不認為你的回應偏激...我同啲媽媽傾偈都係用啲咁既語氣架,晨早知你冇惡意架啦!


原帖由 sheffield 於 10-11-19 22:04 發表
謝謝你沒介意我那帶有點偏激的回應!其實我沒是沒惡意的,只是見到標題…就有個這樣的反應…
當然,雖然我真的對LH有點負面的感覺,但就見到幾個朋友都好滿意LH…其實最緊要係比緊錢嘅用家滿意就是了!
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發表於 10-11-20 03:35 |顯示全部帖子
其實呢度係可以比大家分享嘅平台, 大家都有言論自由, 但係我都覺得說話要自重, 個人喜歡學校唔代表大家都喜歡, 但亦請勿惡意批評別人.  我都係LH家長, 我當然喜歡呢間學校而選擇, 但唔會批評別家不好...因為真係各有所需.

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發表於 10-11-20 11:12 |顯示全部帖子
原帖由 lyhv 於 10-11-19 03:07 發表


罰企果陣~~~


I like it.

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發表於 10-11-20 11:56 |顯示全部帖子
原帖由 elizatyy 於 10-11-20 11:12 發表


I like it.


你們記得同你們的下一代說: 不要到操場 (outdoor playdoor) , 這個是罰企的地方!



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發表於 10-11-20 15:20 |顯示全部帖子
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發表於 10-11-20 16:31 |顯示全部帖子
Just a reminder when reading LH's placement result for P1 (I had read it for few years, surprise? )

They actually have changed the way they present the P1 allocation.  If you refer to their web site, here's the link of the result for last year http://www.learninghabitat.org/en/placement_results/pr01.htm

What caught my attention few years ago when studying LH is, they have a tricky way of presenting the data in the past.  There are actually four tables presenting: the first two are new format this which comply with other kindergartens (if choose to present the result), where the total number of offers will match the total number of student.  You can see the total nunber of K3 students listed there are 177, which agrees with the total of the first two tables.

Then, the last 2 tables are the old format which LH used to post their result.  If you pay attention, they have this reminder to parents saying "Some students have been granted offers from more than one school".  Based on this section, the total number of K3 students are 181 (4 more than the first section I guess these 4 parents didn't report back where their children went eventually), but the total number of seats offered are 267 + 90 = 357.  So, the old formats somehow is not a very useful information since we don't know how many of the ultra smart kids receive tons of offers while some less fortunate ones may have none at all.

Anyway, I just want to point out as I have reviewed many kindergarten's data, LH is one of the special one which used to have such reporting methods so left a stronger impression to me.  Hope it serves as a reminder to all parents.

Ian

原帖由 Christi 於 10-11-18 18:08 發表
呵呵~~連官方網頁的小一數據都質疑,真係估你唔到.不少幼稚園個網都有登出佢地的小一數據,我想你可能都不會用作參考.it's ok,每人心中的尺不同,各取所需而已.

P.S. 我唔年輕嘞,但我冇乜經驗架 ...:loveliness:


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發表於 10-11-20 17:32 |顯示全部帖子
Iantsang,

I think according to the link given, the difference of no. of graduates(4 students)could either be "student with no offer" or "student who did not report their final offer". But I would say it's the latter because table 2 & 4 are the results of "Government & Aided PS". I suppose even the "worst case" should at least got 1 offer from so-called the lucky draw?

I agree with you that the "old format" is not so informative. The offers of "DSS & Private PS"(267 offers) included both "students who got lots of offers" and "students who finally chose Gov/Aided PS but also got offer from DSS/Private PS".

Thank you very much for your analyze.
I still appreciated for the information posted by LH as it was just as much the school can disclose to the public, no matter it is a good/misleading way to present.

[ 本帖最後由 Toffeenut 於 10-11-20 17:41 編輯 ]

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發表於 10-11-20 20:29 |顯示全部帖子
唔好意思打攪大家,見大家對幼稚園都好有認識,想請教下...朗思同LH既課程似唔似呢?thanks~

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發表於 10-11-21 08:46 |顯示全部帖子
thanks Ian.我之前都有留意到2個圖表的分別,但沒有你的細心,看不到177與181之別.也分享一下我對數字的看法...

校方現在posted的兩個圖表(即1.LH畢業生獲取錄的總offers,及2.LH畢業生最終入讀的小學),我都有興趣知道.我明白,以總offers的圖表(簡稱圖表1)為例,推一個極端情況是,最叻的10%畢業生人人手持10個最好的offers,變了數據中那些人人想入的學校的offers的數目,其實來來去去說的只是那10%同學的表現.yeah,其實只要抱住這個警惕去看這堆數字,it's fine enough.因為最終有最終入讀小學的圖表(簡稱圖表2)配合,後者才是較好的參考.

不過話又說回來,圖表2是比較反映每名學生最後的選校取向(當然,選校名單也反映學生競爭力-我說的是DSS及直資部份的名單),但說到要反映畢業生的競爭力(我不敢用質素/能力呢...  :) ),其實是圖表1才能反映.我很有興趣知道他們總共攞到的offers架.

還有,有些KG(我不開名了)是只用百分比(instead of 實際數字)去present升小情況的,這,我就覺得LH用實數(當然not only LH用實數)較有透明度及較少偏差.因為我覺得畢業生人數又不是很大,sample size太小了,說百分比不太好(例如得100人,8人入讀某校,已是8%了).

其實,所有數字,或者所有圖表,都有局限(泛指所有所有,not only KG),一定不能present整體現象,我想,明白數學的人最明白這事.例如,像LH的圖表(我只說LH,因其他KG不熟),看到一些大家見到眼都發光的學校名時,都有另一個可能性,就是父母是old boys或old girls.

所以,我一直覺得,圖表只能用作選校的其中一個參考,選KG還有其他a,b ,c,d factors去參考的...家長們必須抱著alert的心去看,事實上,這一堆數字不能說明/暗示我囡囡小一會有邊間學校收嘛...  :)

至於我不會質疑由官方網頁(泛指all KG)公布的小一數字,是從它的真偽性來說的.理性推斷,我不相信任何校方夠胆作假(這方面),因為夠胆放在網上公諸於世,如果被篤爆作假,誠信會一鋪清袋,這個風險我想任何校長也不敢去冒的.

歡迎討論.

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發表於 10-11-21 08:47 |顯示全部帖子
sorry,我不熟朗思,還是留待其他認識兩校的家長答你吧.

原帖由 ho_yan2406 於 10-11-20 20:29 發表
唔好意思打攪大家,見大家對幼稚園都好有認識,想請教下...朗思同LH既課程似唔似呢?thanks~

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發表於 10-11-21 10:39 |顯示全部帖子
Hi Christi,

Actually what I wanna point out is, since I have been checking the data for few years, this is the first year LH post the table #2 you refered to, "LH畢業生最終入讀的小學".  In the past, the only available table available is "LH畢業生獲取錄的總offers", which I believe many parents may not have pay attention to and assume it is the "LH畢業生最終入讀的小學" table only.

I do not suspect the accuracy of the data at all.  There are no grounds to challenge that.  However, I just hope parents would take note that some of the impressions of LH placement were taken from a magnified number.

I feel welcome that they decided to disclose more information for parents' reference.  It is certainly a good thing to do.  However, I would feel suspicious to find them to start disclosing more information for 2010 P1 placement, where 2004 has the lowest birth rate in the century which children would enjoyed better placement with least competition.  (apology if this offend anyone but I do feel it is something to worth take note of, no matters this change is by intention or not.  The fact is last year was the easiest year for anyone to find a better primary schools).

Just hope to share some of my findings and parents can treat them as reference.  

Ian

原帖由 Christi 於 10-11-21 08:46 發表
thanks Ian.我之前都有留意到2個圖表的分別,但沒有你的細心,看不到177與181之別.也分享一下我對數字的看法...

校方現在posted的兩個圖表(即1.LH畢業生獲取錄的總offers,及2.LH畢業生最終入讀的小學),我都有興趣知道 ...


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發表於 10-11-21 18:59 |顯示全部帖子
原帖由 Pertra 於 10-11-21 17:52 發表
I believed the fees of LH is reasonable than those in Kowloon Tong area. This is not a commercial school.

LH required to pay 12 installation. (as shown in the web page) How many days will the kid nee ...


They will have around 3 weeks of summer holiday in July-August.

BTW, the school offers interview classes for K2 students on Sat morning from April to July.  These are free-of-charge.

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發表於 10-11-21 19:02 |顯示全部帖子
咁我想問LH學費之外要交千幾蚊雜費(1個term)咁呢千幾蚊包左書錢未架?同埋平時多唔多活動要join,要交錢呢?

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發表於 10-11-21 19:03 |顯示全部帖子
同埋我想知,maths用中文定英文教?d課程深唔深?
唔好意思,咁多問題....thanks~

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發表於 10-11-21 19:15 |顯示全部帖子
原帖由 ho_yan2406 於 10-11-21 19:02 發表
咁我想問LH學費之外要交千幾蚊雜費(1個term)咁呢千幾蚊包左書錢未架?同埋平時多唔多活動要join,要交錢呢?


All included, except you want to buy extra reading books such as Oxford Reading Tree.

You will need to pay around $1xx @ head for the annual parents-school outing.  That's all.

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發表於 10-11-21 19:19 |顯示全部帖子
原帖由 elizatyy 於 10-11-21 19:15 發表


All included, except you want to buy extra reading books such as Oxford Reading Tree.

You will need to pay around $1xx @ head for the annual parents-school outing.  That's all.

咁英文書係咪都係用oxford架?

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發表於 10-11-21 19:19 |顯示全部帖子
原帖由 ho_yan2406 於 10-11-21 19:03 發表
同埋我想知,maths用中文定英文教?d課程深唔深?
唔好意思,咁多問題....thanks~


May I know which grade are you asking for?
My son has been learning to write ABC, numbers and Chinese words from the beginning of K2.  For example, he has learnt to write 早、牛、羊。 Also, he was able to understand the conversation in Mardarin when we were travelling in China.

I think the level of Maths is okay.  Of course, it cannot be compared to KV.  LHK is more focus on teaching them logical thinking in Maths.

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發表於 10-11-21 19:22 |顯示全部帖子
原帖由 ho_yan2406 於 10-11-21 19:19 發表

咁英文書係咪都係用oxford架?


Start at K1, students have to read books (Chinese + English) and then do some worksheets during the weekend.  Not sure if all grade are using the same set of books.