小一入學面試有筆試是否違反教局規定?

fotk

5 min is not realistic...

原帖由 w_y 於 10-11-1 11:37 發表
哈哈....有學校 IN 10 分鐘我見有家長話: 好急好快, IN 唔得出D 乜, 學校收生必然有黑幕/內定.

fotk

are they targeting "gifted" kids?

原帖由 w_y 於 10-11-1 11:35 發表
又希望, 又指南, 即係私立就管唔著.
SFA 好似無直屬聯系, 真係可以唔理你喎. 早幾年BK 仲見到有人話佢地筆試架.

不過我個人覺得, 你筆試攪唔掂, 就唔好揀呢類重學術既學校, 否則收左你都係辛苦 (雖然我相信即使無 ...

fotk

this also cover DSS (part of government subvention??) or private or not??

Not clear??

原帖由 motherotk 於 10-11-1 11:19 發表
Parents, what do you think??


教育局通告第 9/2004 號
(前編號為教育統籌局通告第9/2004號)

直資小學及私立小學招收新生

23. 如上文第3段所述，直資小學及私立小學不在小一入學統籌辦法範圍內。

24. 教育統籌局希望 ...

ssdiana

the guideline also affect 直資小學及私立小學招收新生??

motherotk

which school will use written tests, please share here..

Whatever in 1st phrase or second phrase or even knocking door, as according to the EB officer that are violating the guideline of Educaton B..


I have called today to the educational development section of EB at 28327661. A Mrs Fung called me back to confirm that the following guideline is the most updated version and relevant to all DSS, private and subvented schools.

If you parents have any disagreements on the school arrangements, you can call to each district section to find a special education development officer that connect to the school you want to discuss. For example, the MK phone no. is 36984163 and the Kowloon City is 36984141.

Being tax payers, we need to aware our rights and our kid's rights. Education is basic human rights and should not be deprived of our kid's basic rights. Kids should not be treated like "this" , especially for those who claimed to be great "educators" and loving schools.....

附件丙的「約見申請人指南」

私立[url=http://adex.baby-kingdom.com/www/delivery/ck.php?bannerid=565]小學[/url]及直資[url=http://adex.baby-kingdom.com/www/delivery/ck.php?bannerid=565]小學[/url]約見申請人指南

1.
約見的主旨是讓學校認識個別兒童的身心發展情況，包括兒童利用言語表達的能力。但無論在任何情形下，均不可將約見變為考驗兒童的課本知識。

2.

約見應在輕鬆隨便的情況下進行，以便兒童能夠從容順利作答。事實上，兒童很容易因感覺到成人對他╱她的期望過高而產生心理上的壓力，以致過份緊張而不能自如地作出應有的反應。因此，家長及老師應盡量避免兒童產生過度心理上的壓力。

3.
為減輕兒童對陌生環境產生不安情緒起見，學校應考慮在接待處附近，設置休息室，並準備玩具或[url=http://adex.baby-kingdom.com/www/delivery/ck.php?bannerid=563]圖書[/url]，讓兒童在約見前在該處等候。

4.
約見時應個別進行，所以在選擇及佈置約見地方時，要加以小心考慮，最好能在一個不受干擾、平靜而愉快的氣氛下進行。一般而言，兒童對嚴肅的座位擺設會感不安。但另一方面，某些兒童若能坐在桌後而非坐在空洞大房間的中央，會覺得較為從容。

5.
如有需要，學校可成立多於一組老師，於不同課室約見申請人。但為使衡量標準統一，分組數目不宜過多。
6.
約見時，以隨便及非正式的談話（與兒童閒聊）為主，而不應發問有組織的嚴肅問題。主持約見者，應顧及兒童的年齡，生活經驗及思考方式，聽取他們的答案，然後牽引出一些　合兒童思想方式及日常生活有關的問題。

7.
主持約見者的態度應要和藹可親，在兒童回答問題時，要多作鼓勵性的讚賞，切不可對個別答案吹毛求疵。

8.
對一般入讀小一的兒童而言，約見時間不應太長，約五分鐘已經足夠。

9.
約見時應利用兒童的母語進行。

原帖由 ssdiana 於 10-11-1 16:28 發表
the guideline also affect 直資小學http://adex.baby-kingdom.com/www/delivery/avw.php?bannerid=565&cb=2104及私立小學http://adex.baby-kingdom.com/www/delivery/avw.php?bannerid=565&cb=2104招收新生?? ...

[ 本帖最後由 motherotk 於 10-11-1 20:45 編輯 ]

motherotk

which school will use written tests, please share here..

[ 本帖最後由 motherotk 於 10-11-1 21:21 編輯 ]

motherotk

Not sure PLK LxC will have written test at the second phrase of their P1 application??


which school will use written tests, please share here.. [/quote]

[ 本帖最後由 motherotk 於 10-11-2 02:43 編輯 ]

silvia_ng

原帖由 motherotk 於 10-11-1 17:14 發表
which school will use written tests, please share here..

Whatever in 1st phrase or second phrase or even knocking door, as according to the EB officer that are violating the guideline of Educaton B.. ...

你個POINT 1已經大把學校做緊啦! 問你7-5=?, 係咪算問課本學問? 如果樓主你覺得你一人之力可以改變呢樣野, 實在係冇咩可能。再者, 有D家長仲好BUY學校可以考呢D, 佢地對小朋友學術上會比較仲有把握。

何必一定要問到邊間學校係咁做呢? 你唔接受/唔鐘意
咪唔好考囉!

ziyi

其實大家有沒有想過不容許筆試的來源是什麼?

如果沒有記錯在教育局的文件上,對幼稚園的指引是K1不建議寫字的,是看,讀,認字,畫畫
在K2開始小量,很小量的
到K3才開始寫簡單的
原因是小朋友的手部肌肉未發肉建全,過早寫太多的字對發肉不好.

所以教育局的指引不是不許DSS/Private面試考取學校覺得適合的小朋友,所以不許筆試應該是跟上述的原因相符

但幼稚園有機多跟足指引?

motherotk

I used to heard that, yet I am not sure about the guideline. I just confirmed and realized this updated guideline this week (yesterday) with someone send me the link on this guideline at this BK discussion forum and I then out of my curiousity called to the EB and some educational development officer  confirm me from the Educational Bureau.

何必一定要 ...??

motherotk

你個POINT 1已經大把學校做緊啦! - so is this right way to do??

Does not mean it is "right" or not violating the educational policy.

Even though I cannot change it by myself, I need to point it out...I do not know if this is going to change or not, this is a "culture" in HK, against culture is not easy and of couse will cause lots of arguments, espeially those who are benefiting from this "culture"....

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你個POINT 1已經大把學校做緊啦! 問你7-5=?, 係咪算問課本學問? 如果樓主你覺得你一人之力可以改變呢樣野, 實在係冇咩可能。再者, 有D家長仲好BUY學校可以考呢D, 佢地對小朋友學術上會比較仲有把握。

何必一定要 ... [/quote]

thomasha

Maybe you should consider writing your comments to EDB so that the non-compliance can be identified and rectified.

原帖由 motherotk 於 10-11-2 01:57 發表
你個POINT 1已經大把學校做緊啦! - so is this right way to do??

Does not mean it is "right" or not violating the educational policy.

Even though I cannot change it by myself, I need to point it out.. ...

motherotk

Yes, I will, as a mother who experiencing this system and with 1st hand experience...

I believe that other mums and Dads may have similar feelings or "disagreements". But, it's ok, I can still voice out my "voices"..these voices are real and needed to be addressed!!!

原帖由 thomasha 於 10-11-2 02:00 發表
Maybe you should consider writing your comments to EDB so that the non-compliance can be identified and rectified.

motherotk

they do not have the written test as updated from their website...

原帖由 motherotk 於 10-11-1 21:21 發表
Not sure PLK LxC will have written test at the second phrase of their P1 application??


which school will use written tests, please share here..

[/quote]

motherotk

Not sure PLK TXL will have written test at the second phrase of their P1 application??

原帖由 motherotk 於 10-11-2 02:44 發表
they do not have the written test as updated from their website...

[/quote]

motherotk

Not sure on SFX's most updated practice??

原帖由 motherotk 於 10-11-2 02:53 發表
Not sure PLK TXL will have written test at the second phrase of their P1 application??

[/quote]

motherotk

Not sure about GT??

原帖由 motherotk 於 10-11-2 02:56 發表
Not sure on SFX's most updated practice??

[/quote]

motherotk

Not sure about Kowloon X Primary school??

原帖由 motherotk 於 10-11-2 02:57 發表
Not sure about GT??

[/quote]

Ewongmum

My girl is quite shy, and not too chatty . She actually would be better if you access her in written format.   in oral, she will be disadvantaged.   acadamically, she is very good.  

So, I agree, if some private school will use written format to access their knowledge .   

原帖由 silvia_ng 於 10-11-1 21:36 發表


你個POINT 1已經大把學校做緊啦! 問你7-5=?, 係咪算問課本學問? 如果樓主你覺得你一人之力可以改變呢樣野, 實在係冇咩可能。再者, 有D家長仲好BUY學校可以考呢D, 佢地對小朋友學術上會比較仲有把握。

何必一定要 ...

jackie_lau2000

如果你覺得學校有些規定或安排是你不認同, 那麼不要去面試好了.

希望大家搵到一間心儀和理念一致的學校而學校又可滿足你消費者的要求. 那麼學校校長老師都會十萬個多謝你的決定的