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原帖由 HoHoMom 於 10-10-20 18:57 發表
Yes, the poor boy looked so tired. It looks like he was imprisoned by his dad when they were studying English at home.


His father's mindset - his son to fulfill his unfulfilled dreams.

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小朋友叫佢地溫習, 大多好tired, 叫佢地玩就生猛架 !  可能呢位家長好似好harsh, 但如果有個咁有心機的dad每晚教亞仔溫幾隻生字, 日積月累, 一定有得著 !  呢位小朋友都有好多"玩"嘅活動, 即表示學校功課唔多, 仲有時間比小朋友參加課外活動.  有好多小朋友點迫成績都係差強人意, 而小學打好d底, 中學自然有得著, 有邊個小朋友會主動溫習?  家長唔迫, 唔通真係睇住佢地衰 ?

原帖由 HoHoMom 於 10-10-20 18:57 發表
Yes, the poor boy looked so tired. It looks like he was imprisoned by his dad when they were studying English at home.

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原帖由 overview 於 10-10-20 22:16 發表
呢位小朋友都有好多"玩"嘅活動, 即表示學校功課唔多, 仲有時間比小朋友參加課外活動.  有好多小朋友點迫成績都係差強人意, 而小學打好d底, 中學自然有得著, 有邊個小朋友會主動溫習?  家長唔迫, 唔通真係睇住佢地衰 ?


My son has the same comment - "no happy learning"


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Thanks for sharing. Very touched esp after the second part....
Personally I think that Dad with a kid from LS is pushing his son too hard....the way that he said it," he doesn't have holiday..." Poor kid! He is only in P3! How many more years to go!!??

原帖由 JoeyyeoJ 於 10-10-17 23:37 發表
「如果你要打造名校,很容易︰
『每一個科目,特別是英文科,程度教高一年級便可,並且不斷給予功課。— 這樣便受家長歡迎了。」

家長不應該給名牌效應牽著鼻子走︰
「請放下自己的虛榮感。
究竟是為了滿足自己虛榮心?還是滿足子 ...

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Exactly!! 津校更世襲!! Agree!!

原帖由 mat媽 於 10-10-19 14:31 發表
「世襲教育」!津校更世襲啦!最好冇左old boy/girl 的分!

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回覆 105# DrBabyAlex 的文章

Most parents have a fantasy of happy learning, but most Chinese parents from or in mainland have another thoughts as our parents decades ago. With the EMI/CMI differentiation in secondary schools and other educational reforms, we are much behind or very little improvement in our education.

We are lucky enough to be a host family for an exchange student from Ning Bao secondary school. The boy tried very hard to communicate with us in English, ask many questions about our systems and commuincate with us through email after back to NB. In his last email, he told me that he would like to come to HK to study either in DBS or SPCC, then the next target will be HKU ....... then US for postgraduate. As a 14 years old boy, his target or ambition most likely from parents. Is it too bad?

How about our boys?


[ 本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 10-10-20 23:52 編輯 ]

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The students from mainland are very driven and they studied so much harder then our kids in Hong Kong. In a way cuz competition in the mainland is even more fierce then Hong Kong's. So in my opinion, there is no use to try to compete with students from the mainland academically ( try to have better Chinese level or Maths etc), but rather focus on how to raise well rounded, kind hearted and positive thinking kids. At the end of the day, academic results are important for college admission but colleges will also look at other areas like sports, charity / community services etc.

Lately, there are more and more mainland students targeting DSS schools in HK and a lot of them have good connections + good education background. So now we don't only need to compete against HK kids but mainland kids! Poor us and poor kids!!  

原帖由 ANChan59 於 10-10-20 23:49 發表
Most parents have a fantasy of happy learning, but most Chinese parents from or in mainland have another thoughts as our parents decades ago. With the EMI/CMI differentiation in secondary schools, we  ...

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回覆 109# ahtan 的文章

I am not really try to compare HK students with those from mainland. Some parents just think about the competition from local perspective「世襲教育」, too narrow-minded.

"Who move the cheese?"............

Many Chinese students are very all-rounded and well connected, on top of academically.


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回覆 111# DrBabyAlex 的文章

Absolutely agree with your experience and observations at different regions.

The keen competition is so real globally, if parents just ignore it, overprotect our kids.......... What's their future?

From 11th onward, I intentionally requested my son to travel by himself for summer program in US, travelled with grandmom to Taiwan at 13 (Take care of grandmom)...... So many friends and relatives critised us, now, they have different view, that is simple independence and experiential learning.

I can't accept an adult early 30 still rely on parents....

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Why the rich mainland students didn't apply Queen's College, La Salle, .....?

What is the advantage they are taking?

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回覆 1# cman_li 的文章

任何制度都有優點同缺點,所謂公平只係對(大或小)部份人來講~~~

「世襲」制度,基本上對大部份人都係公平,因為只要你有響香港讀過中小學,你啲仔女都會有世襲分,只係好多人都唔用,原因可能係佢地都唔想仔女讀自己間母校,或者果間母校已經無左(包括我自己間小學母校)~~~

「世襲」制度唔係單向,唔係純綷學校益舊生,學校都有得益,學校都希望家長配合學校政策,舊生響學校讀過幾年(甚至十幾年)書,對學校有一定認識,如果佢都想仔女入讀,証明佢地認同學校,起碼好過一啲只係“慕名”去報,入左先知同自己想像係唔同,家長就會好不滿,對學校施政亦做成影響,我識啲名校畢業生,因為各種原因,無幫仔女報自己母校~~~

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如果在投資銀行工作, 幾乎清一色都只請歐美名牌大學的畢業生或MBA, 大家學歷差唔多, 往上爬主要還是看Performance.

只要做得不太差,一兩年便會跳一級,由Associate/Analyst->VP->Senior VP->Director->Executive Director->Managing Director

這個行業的事業生命很短暫,不停要吸收新血。但很多人做10年8年可以上岸,搵到幾千萬唔難,再做其他嘢,或自己出來開一間細細哋的投資公司。

連瑞銀的星級分析師陸東都要出來開檔,可想而知呢個行業競爭多殘酷。



原帖由 ysnmama 於 10-10-20 15:45 發表
有時不用一窩蜂的舉些辛苦入了名校. 最後失敗的例子. 其實還有很多正面的例子. 入了也可開心地讀. 我有間接認識的. 有讀聖保羅男女, 男拔及喇沙. 他們可以好好地讀亦很開心. 沒有半點負面感覺. 父母也很少出力. 所以 ...

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That's why it's even more competitive nowadays for our kids to get into good Primary or secondary school or college. The rates for HK students advancing into top universities in the US has been dropping because the quotas are taken up by mainland students.


原帖由 DrBabyAlex 於 10-10-21 10:07 發表
I have that idea some years ago. Try to think 1-4 decades / 1-2 generations in the future.

HK new generations will be less competitive when compare with that of mainland.
Our kids (being well protec ...

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The ex-Financial Leung is very bad.


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說得好.

原帖由 ysnmama 於 10-10-20 15:56 發表
通常打造了不成事, 唯有接受又沒後悔. 不打造過又沒成事, 有機會後悔. 沒有方程式. 有誰會知今日所做的, 明天會如何? 只有成為歷史才可檢討.


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