Unfairness in Religion Mark and Parent relation Mark

thomasha

就算政府真係白痴，都唔可以狗屎垃圾都賴佢地，冤有頭債有主。o個d連責任誰屬都搞唔清楚o既人，根本就連個制度係點都一知半解，真係吹脹。

原帖由 DaddyX 於 10-10-2 10:59 發表


你咁講無用架
D人係都要話係政府白痴呀
成個教育制度混亂呀咁架

ANChan59

由政治正確及意識形態爭論後，回歸實際操作。

我孩子出生後約談6-7個月，在教會參加"嬰兒奉獻禮"，目的是父母在會眾面前承諾願意按聖經教誨，教育子女，牧師作祝福然後簽發"嬰兒奉獻禮"證書。到報小學時，再由主任牧師寫推薦信"核實"父母為基督徒或者同一宗派(按申請學校要求)。可能學校都知道有部份家長弄虛作假，部份只承認自己宗派及要牧師核實。

對天主教及其他宗教程序不了解，希望其他家長補充。

ANChan59

原帖由 DaddyX 於 10-10-2 11:12 發表
同意,聽太多人投訴D學校同教會點點點
但又唔理人地D學校付出左幾多
其實同樓主一樣想法成日就呢個分配學位宗教分
不停炮轟政府的真係不計其數
但其實政府可能之前己經幫他們爭取左也未定
否則可能不是5分而是15分 ...

Even schools with religious background turn private and the queue also very long, think about DGS, DBS, LS, SPCC......

Even get max scores also many times more than the vacancies, 10, 15 score, just forget it. no need to apply.

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ANChan59

In most forum, parents responses are emotional and impulsive, miss an important part to verify the factual information, like how different religions handle the 5 scores....... even without religious scores, the number of applicants >>>> vacancies. if you don't have any proper connection with the school, the chance is slim.

Look at DBSPD, over-subscribed 16+ times. My friend is old boys from DBS, he and his son also need dog fight to compete for a seat...... From 2011 onward, DBSPD only considers the old boys score in 2nd interview, but it's tough for them to be shortlisted in 2nd interview.

ANChan59

In York's case, we should blame the headteacher and not just the parents.

Her ethical value as an educator........

thomasha

The lack of transparency of schools' requirements and verification procedures in awarding the 5 marks gave the headteacher a chance to take advantage of parents with ulterior motives.  

Theoretically, if schools can implement more stringent verification procedures, fake believers can be largely eliminated.  I think the extra effort is worthwhile in ensuring true believers are taken and saving future trouble.

原帖由 ANChan59 於 10-10-2 11:34 發表
In York's case, we should blame the headteacher and not just the parents.

Her ethical value as an educator........

ANChan59

原帖由 thomasha 於 10-10-2 12:00 發表
The lack of transparency of schools' requirements and verification procedures in awarding the 5 marks gave the headteacher a chance to take advantage of parents with ulterior motives.  

Theoretically ...

Be honest, I think most schools verify the certificate, esp hot schools.

mattsmum

is the verification process carried out by school (maybe DSS) or by central allocation office ( for most non-DSS schools)?

edf

[其實這個制度都幾合理，就是教徒可讀教會學校，學校和家長有相同的教學理念，之不過有太多非信徒想讀教會名校，但又爭扎不想做教徒，才是問題所在。quote]原帖由 Ving 於 10-10-1 13:12 發表
If my children cannot enter good P1 school due to he is inferior to others in (Language, Music, EQ, Politeness), then I have nothing to say and accept.

But if due to religion + Parent relations, (e.g ... [/quote]

nicolemummy

一語中的! 佩服!

原帖由 edf 於 10-10-2 13:27 發表
其實這個制度都幾合理，就是教徒可讀教會學校，學校和家長有相同的教學理念，之不過有太多非信徒想讀教會名校，但又掙扎不想做教徒，才是問題所在

thomasha

I think verification of the certificate itself is not sufficient, especially when some parents are trying so hard to get one.  There must be more to prove they are true believers.

原帖由 ANChan59 於 10-10-2 12:07 發表


Be honest, I think most schools verify the certificate, esp hot schools.

ANChan59

原帖由 mattsmum 於 10-10-2 12:08 發表
is the verification process carried out by school (maybe DSS) or by central allocation office ( for most non-DSS schools)?

My son's Primary school was not DSS, the admission officer reviewed that according to their guideline. Certificate + recommendation letter from the church. The 5 pt only subject to self selection procedure, not lucky draw.

ANChan59

原帖由 thomasha 於 10-10-2 13:47 發表
I think verification of the certificate itself is not sufficient, especially when some parents are trying so hard to get one.  There must be more to prove they are true believers.

Sorry, only God can judge who is the true believers.

littlefaith

原帖由 ANChan59 於 10-10-2 13:52 發表


Sorry, only God can judge who is the true believers.

Agree. Actually it is not sufficient to prove whether one is true believer or not only by how many years he has become Christian. :D

mattsmum

Thank you,

Would there be anyone trying to complaint that there is discrimination?

Anpanmama

原帖由 fatherfather 於 10-10-1 19:27 發表
可以修定，初信不計分，要起碼３至４年才計算

或者，係取消有關計算。

可免有關幼稚園發家長財，真係不知所謂。。
一個字，個校長貪婪。

佢已經犯了十誡之一，不可貪婪 ...

5歲幾人仔邊得嚟有3-4年嘅入教年資呀？ 即係一出世入教先計分係咪？

ANChan59

原帖由 mattsmum 於 10-10-2 14:37 發表
Would there be anyone trying to complaint that there is discrimination?

Another diaster after boys and girls discrimination. More and more girls in Band 1 schools and more and more girls in universities.......

Just use discrimination to ignore the difference of the development of boys and girls.

Church school provides better education because of the faith, value, commitment and love etc and not just simply focus on academic.

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Anpanmama

尋日睇過一篇報導, 係一啲宗教人士, 都覺得果5分係無必要存在。
佢話情願多啲非教徒就讀, 佢地可以傳道同令更多人信主, 呢啲先係教會辨學嘅原意。 我非常贊成。
我由幼稚園到中學都係教會學校, 但選擇唔入教, 非我不信主, 而是不服氣, 學校對教徒那種偏坦。