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發表於 10-4-2 13:54 |只看該作者
其實已經係人都知你講邊個,點解唔可以尊重版主,唔打全名呢?打剩一兩個子母有乜問題? 雖然我同意你們,賽果似乎好唔公平,但都唔關第一名個小朋友事,可唔可以唔好成日彈人地好唔好,我覺得個小朋友好無辜!

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發表於 10-4-2 14:23 |只看該作者
bk鍾意block人全名係怕孭鑊, 呢d情況已經習以為常, 但估唔到大家在討論賽果, 申訴評判評審標準有問題, 竟然會染上誹謗之嫌!

另外並無對得獎小朋友惡意評批, 受該評判影響的賽事不止110一賽, 另有116及其他多場賽事, 所以並非針對那一場賽事的小朋友.


原帖由 rookiemom 於 10-4-2 13:54 發表
其實已經係人都知你講邊個,點解唔可以尊重版主,唔打全名呢?打剩一兩個子母有乜問題? 雖然我同意你們,賽果似乎好唔公平,但都唔關第一名個小朋友事,可唔可以唔好成日彈人地好唔好,我覺得個小朋友好無辜! ...

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發表於 10-4-2 14:34 |只看該作者
對不起,我指批評得獎小朋友的人的確唔係你。





原帖由 helenli 於 10-4-2 14:23 發表
bk鍾意block人全名係怕孭鑊, 呢d情況已經習以為常, 但估唔到大家在討論賽果, 申訴評判評審標準有問題, 竟然會染上誹謗之嫌!

另外並無對得獎小朋友惡意評批, 受該評判影響的賽事不止110一賽, 另有116及其他多場賽事, ...

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發表於 10-4-2 20:38 |只看該作者
原帖由 helenli 於 10-4-2 14:23 發表
bk鍾意block人全名係怕孭鑊, 呢d情況已經習以為常, 但估唔到大家在討論賽果, 申訴評判評審標準有問題, 竟然會染上誹謗之嫌!

另外並無對得獎小朋友惡意評批, 受該評判影響的賽事不止110一賽, 另有116及其他多場賽事, ...


如果親子王國收到法庭命令要交出涉及誹謗會員的資料就必須要合作, 這並非我們所願做的和見到的.

當然站在商業立場, 親子王國亦很難為會員文章負上民事責任, 收律師信已多不勝數, 會員應為自己的言論負上責任, 如果在有需要的時候, 我們都要保障王國本身利益.

希望作為一個成年人, 閣下會尊重版主, 尊重自己, 多謝合作.

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edea

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發表於 10-4-2 20:47 |只看該作者
大家參加這類比賽, 都會尊重比賽規則及評審的方法, 遇上不滿及異意, 都應按大會的方法去申訴, 但不滿沒有合理賽果又沒有上訴機制, 只有以後不參加這個活動.

在沒有實際証據下對某人開名評而影響對方, 都有可能被控誹謗, 除了BK外, 發言者也要負上責任, 所以版主是為保障大家才將有關名字刪除, 請大家明白及見諒.

大臣

原帖由 helenli 於 10-4-2 14:23 發表
bk鍾意block人全名係怕孭鑊, 呢d情況已經習以為常, 但估唔到大家在討論賽果, 申訴評判評審標準有問題, 竟然會染上誹謗之嫌!

另外並無對得獎小朋友惡意評批, 受該評判影響的賽事不止110一賽, 另有116及其他多場賽事, ...

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原帖由 kylie_mom 於 10-4-2 03:27 發表


老師,

已經講了勿開名, 亦幫妳們除去, 為何又要改回呢, 請自重!!


really sorry to make you trouble,
i just misunderstand some rules before.
Using XXXXXX to instead Hxwxxx Pxxkhouxe is acceptable

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發表於 10-4-2 20:56 |只看該作者
原帖由 大臣 於 10-4-2 20:47 發表
大家參加這類比賽, 都會尊重比賽規則及評審的方法, 遇上不滿及異意, 都應按大會的方法去申訴, 但不滿沒有合理賽果又沒有上訴機制, 只有以後不參加這個活動.

在沒有實際証據下對某人開名評而影響對方, 都有可能被控誹謗, 除了BK外, 發言者也要負上責任, 所以版主是為保障大家才將有關名字刪除, 請大家明白及見諒


Not to join the competition is not posible,
the prize can help them to choose a better secondary school!

evidence is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W8No8P-M6k
It is really a big mistake for Mr. Hoxxxx ParkXxXxx,
Everyone can see the video to anlysis the competition result

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發表於 10-4-2 21:03 |只看該作者
原帖由 edea 於 10-4-2 20:38 發表
如果親子王國收到法庭命令要交出涉及誹謗會員的資料就必須要合作, 這並非我們所願做的和見到的.


Hey! HKSMSA know the teacher, the parents and my REAL name who complain Mr. HowXXXX XXXXhousX!!!!!!

I am Miss Au fong Nam!!!
we are not誹謗會員!
We all tell the truth!
We respect here and use XXXXXXXXXX,
and please respect our professional!
THANK YOU!

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發表於 10-4-2 21:06 |只看該作者
原帖由 rookiemom 於 10-4-2 13:54 發表
其實已經係人都知你講邊個,點解唔可以尊重版主,唔打全名呢?打剩一兩個子母有乜問題? 雖然我同意你們,賽果似乎好唔公平,但都唔關第一名個小朋友事,可唔可以唔好成日彈人地好唔好,我覺得個小朋友好無辜! ...


Yes i agree,
Dear helenli, just use XXX is okay.
We don't want anyone trouble

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發表於 10-4-2 21:10 |只看該作者
原帖由 VeryHappyMum 於 10-4-2 03:29 發表
真是辛苦版主,捱更抵夜來檢閱留言,但家長都係提出質疑啫,唔覺有攻擊成份,何必做咁咁多刪刪剪剪?做得討論平台自然要有包容,難道只顧每年賺取豐厚廣告費? ...


In fact, I totally agree with you,
but, just accept is okay.
I think they have their pressure.
People need to respect each other.

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發表於 10-4-2 21:13 |只看該作者
原帖由 helenli 於 10-4-2 02:58 發表
理據已相當充份, 惟有關當局不肯回應, 唯有在此召集各家長/老師作出討論, 絕無誹謗成份!


Have you email to the association?
What is there respond?

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原帖由 VeryHappyMum 於 10-4-2 03:33 發表
請問這位  xxward xarkxxxxx  是來自哪裏的?


Britain! You can see here:
http://www.hksmsa.org.hk/Adju.php?Lang=M


Mr HowXXX ParkhXXXX
MA, FTCL, GTCL, LRAM, ARCM, PGCE

Born and educated in South Wales of the United Kingdom, HowXXX completed his musical training at Trinity College of Music, London, where he studied pianoforte with Irene Kohler, organ with Geoffrey Hanson and conducting with Charles Proctor. Postgraduate studies were undertaken at The Institute of Education London University and City University.

In 1967 he played the organ continuo in the first performance of Telemann's St Matthew Passion, which was given as part of the Camden Festival, London. Since then he has gone on to broadcast on both radio and television, examined, taught, lectured, conducted and adjudicated, as well as given innumerable organ recitals worldwide.

HXXXrd has lived in Bedfordshire since 1969 and has held posts as Director of Music in schools, churches and with choral societies. He was a member of the County Music Advisory Service and has served as a regional councillor for the Incorporated Society of Musicians. He is an examiner for Trinity College London, and is in constant demand as a freelance accompanist, organist, teacher and conductor.

Other interests include furniture making, D.I.Y., composing, and devising and presenting music and general knowledge quizzes.


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原帖由 namnam71 於 10-4-2 21:03 發表


Hey! HKSMSA know the teacher, the parents and my REAL name who complain Mr. HowXXXX XXXXhousX!!!!!!

I am Miss Au fong Nam!!!
we are not誹謗會員!
We all tell the truth!
We respect here and use XXXXX ...


抱歉, 是否誹謗並非由我們可以定奪, 如果鬧上法庭, 將會由法官去判斷, 沒有誰可以代替法官去判斷這一點, 而且在這裡說的, 都是一面之辭, 公平點講, 很難去肯定是否和事實沒有出入, 眼看未為實, 耳聽未為真, 我們必須保持中立.

妳們都是老師, 相信應該比我們更會控制好自己情緒和從合理途徑去向有關機構反映.

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edea

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發表於 10-4-2 21:28 |只看該作者
原帖由 edea 於 10-4-2 21:16 發表


抱歉, 是否誹謗並非由我們可以定奪, 如果鬧上法庭, 將會由法官去判斷, 沒有誰可以代替法官去判斷這一點, 而且在這裡說的, 都是一面之辭, 公平點講, 很難去肯定是否和事實沒有出入, 眼看未為實, 耳聽未為真, 我們必 ...


This case is 90% not possible to 鬧上法庭,
anyway, no need to discuss this.
The main point is that please don't icon us to be a "誹謗會員"!
Our professional should also be respect!

And don't worry.
We understand your point.
This case is hopeless.
We also don't want to make trouble.
I don't mind to off topic, lock or delete.
We also respect all of you here.

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發表於 10-4-2 21:38 |只看該作者
原帖由 namnam71 於 10-4-2 21:28 發表


This case is 90% not possible to 鬧上法庭,
anyway, no need to discuss this.
The main point is that please don't icon us to be a "誹謗會員"!
Our professional should also be respect!

And don't worry. ...


我們並非把你們標籤成誹謗會員, 也許是你們誤解了. 我們只是提醒公開他人名字去指責也許會引起誹謗訴訟, 而會否興起訴訟亦不是該機構或那人以外的人所能預測到的.

老師們不用激動, 若果賽果不公平, 也是讓孩子領會現實生活中會發生的情況, 作為成年人, 應該教導孩子最重要是盡了自己能力, 比賽的賽果是次要, 去比賽應該是為了增取經驗, 名次和分數的得失不需要看得太重. 連成年人都這麼執著和看不破, 孩子的壓力必然更大.

祝好.

edea

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原帖由 rookiemom 於 10-4-2 13:54 發表
其實已經係人都知你講邊個,點解唔可以尊重版主,唔打全名呢?打剩一兩個子母有乜問題? 雖然我同意你們,賽果似乎好唔公平,但都唔關第一名個小朋友事,可唔可以唔好成日彈人地好唔好,我覺得個小朋友好無辜! ...


NO NO NO!
The main point is to criticize HorwXXX ParkXXXXX,
but not the child and her parents!
We all know that the girl and her parents are nothing wrong!

Yes, the child is innocent, but bad technique and the too slow tempo is still the fact. We are difficult to espect talking this point.

Moreover, if the girl and parents think that she plays well, it is a very bad affect for them and their piano teacher about what is good for music.

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原帖由 edea 於 10-4-2 21:38 發表


我們並非把你們標籤成誹謗會員, 也許是你們誤解了. 我們只是提醒公開他人名字去指責也許會引起誹謗訴訟, 而會否興起訴訟亦不是該機構或那人以外的人所能預測到的.

老師們不用激動, 若果賽果不公平, 也是讓孩子領 ...


Thanks for your kindly respond.
Maybe words are not important.

All in all, i agree your point,
just we teachers has responsibilty to tell the truth to the association, and stop the unfair case happened again (though we will be failed).
No one plan to change the result.

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發表於 10-4-3 09:59 |只看該作者
你說是fact,但人家的老師亦未必同意,請放過那個小朋友吧! 要投訴就向有關大會投訴,你在這里有完沒完的,就算你不是有心拖那小朋友落水,但每每仍冇可避免地批評她,你已對人地一家構成好大壓力,甚至傷害。

我亦唔會就這topic再發表意見。





原帖由 namnam71 於 10-4-2 21:39 發表


NO NO NO!
The main point is to criticize HorwXXX ParkXXXXX,
but not the child and her parents!
We all know that the girl and her parents are nothing wrong!

Yes, the child is innocent, but bad techn ...


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