DBSPD Vs GT(優才書院)

jericho

BEST OF THE BEST =>>> DBS

ecore

Quote:[上年老師對我說，學生派位大約都是3分1 brand 1 / 3分1 brand 2 / 3分1 brand 3，.....]

不只是GT,其實到在學能測驗停止(大概是2001)後才有P5,P6的小學大約都是1/3 brand 1 、 1/3 brand 2 & 1/3 brand 3 (教育局的政策)，因此音小、陳守仁.........等及其他較新的小學學生若參加統一派位，亦會如此分配。

基本上優小的學生約70-80%升優中，其他的都會自行報考中學，較少參加統一派位，無論因未能升優中抑或欲報考名校，都能如願入讀理想的中學。而未有中學部時的優小畢業生進入的中學為亦都多是熱門的學校。這都應感謝母校的培育！

現在的優中學生，不論是優小畢業生抑或由其他小學升讀的，都能融洽相處，亦兼顧學業和品德的發展。亦沒聽聞有惡意或針對性的欺凌事件。


Quote:[...另外我問個一位老師這間學校的branding, 她說：「最TOP的學生都走，大約brand 2」
希望幫倒你..........]
這一點則抱歉不能同意，相信現任的優中家長都很它清楚學生功課量及測考量雖不多，但課程程度絕不低！況且G3,G6 & G9的TSA(全港性系統評估) 及 公開試的成績都很理想！孩子真的可以輕鬆愉快而又有效學習，不致淪為考試機器！

況且優才中、小學部的兩位校長，數位主任、以及李教授的子女全是GT學生。他們既是教職員也是家長，相信在其他學校甚為罕見！

其實每間學校都是校長和老師們盡心經營的學校！適合各類型的家長及學生。

[ 本帖最後由 ecore 於 10-1-25 17:41 編輯 ]

leahchang

elsa2004
  小女今年小一,剛進gt時,也被幾個頑皮的小孩欺負,後來老師幫忙留意後,就沒再發生了,但我朋友孩子唸的是一所傳統官校,據她所言,這種事老師唔得空理....所以,我很感激老師的幫助...我想,小朋友六年都被欺凌,真的很慘,但為什麼呢?其它小朋友都係咁咩???
呢間學校會in家長,但唔係in有冇錢,或專業人士,係in有心教育小朋友並且能了解小朋友能力,大家目標一致幫小朋友發展潛能的方向行,如果說小朋友被評估為有學障,但最後成績卻能大致跟上,那表示學校的用心不是嗎?並沒因此而放棄學生..當然,家長的付出也絶對不能少而且更加辛苦....
老師平日的工作己很忙碌,要花那麼多時間和家長溝通真的不是那麼簡單的事,我想老師之所以會有心,也可能說學校也會有要求,所謂的高層壓力,我想,每個學校都得設個底線吧,始終是一個團體的地方,有時候,父母介入太多,孩子就更難成長.....老師話你的小朋友係全校最純的,你唔覺這句話好,奇怪咩,咩叫最純?????

[ 本帖最後由 leahchang 於 10-1-25 20:51 編輯 ]

iamderek

原帖由 ecore 於 10-1-25 15:34 發表
況且優才中、小學部的兩位校長，數位主任、以及李教授的子女全是GT學生。他們既是教職員也是家長，相信在其他學校甚為罕見！

I think this is the proof.

SumSumBB

引用:

原帖由 ecore 於 10-1-25 15:34 發表
況且優才中、[url=http://das.baby-kingdom.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a136fd08&cb=11224468]小學[/url]部的兩位校長，數位主任、以及李教授的子女全是GT學生。他們既是教職員也是家長，相信在其他學校甚為罕見！

I think this is the proof.

由此可見，優才的校長和老師們定很認同優才的教育方針，以及對學校很有歸屬感。

edea

原帖由 elsa2004 於 10-1-25 00:37 發表
老師經常說：「我的小朋友是全校最純，優才的小朋友太活躍，我們要保護他」，因為他經常受到欺凌，這才是我們一次又一次想為他轉校的原因，但因為優才的老師實在太好，我們才一次又一次留低...

不講優才或任何學校, 孩子們之間衝突是無可避免,我自己都見有一兩個小朋友比較自我, 喜歡做領導人, 喜歡要別的小朋友聽他/她指揮, 有時會聯群杯葛"不聽從"的孩子.但只是很少數.

作為家長, 我會建議"強化"自己小朋友, 教育自己孩子應如何應付別人不合理的行為或無禮的言語, 培養保護自己的能力, 一個孩子應當有自信, 知道是非對錯, 才會成長得健康, 沒有父母可以24小時在孩子身邊保護, 也不可能讓孩子一輩子在溫室成長.

沒有一間學校會100%全部都是好孩子, 孩子們亦未必是心腸壞, 父母是最主要德育的老師, 學校是其次. 我覺得優才的德育教導不錯, 但我仍深信父母才是應該扶持孩子如何樂觀正面成長的人, 和孩子保持溝通, 教孩子快樂堅強地成長, 是我的信念.

elsa2004

純是指他性格乖巧、聽話、沒有殺傷力，不要把老師的話想得太復雜，我說的都只是我兒的經歷，你們的小朋友沒有遇上，是多麼的可喜可賀，但不代表學校沒有這些事情發生，對於老師我是萬分感激的，沒有他們我早就為小兒轉校了。

其實所為學習障礙是分很多種的，不是每一個學障的孩兒都讀不了書，相反這些孩兒才是最有talent的，因為上天是公平的，拿了一些又會給回一些，像我兒正是一個好例子，每位入讀GT的小朋友，第一年學校都會做一個多元智能評估，他在數學方面當時已看出有問題，但英文方面是(100%)全級最高分的。

至於TSA(全港性系統評估)，就是這個評估的成績影响到這校的派位，因為教育處是用兩年前的成績來離定這年的派位分配率 ( http://www.edb.gov.hk/index.aspx?nodeID=1565&langno=2 )

我所寫的都是我所知所聽和一些與老師的對話，當然每個人的經歷都不會一樣，看東西的角度亦是。我相信每個人都有自己要走的路，但能看見自己的孩子每天都過得快樂是每位爸爸媽媽的願望，不會有人否定吧?

我想要寫的都寫完，以後都不會再為這個TOPIC作任何回應了.........

原帖由 leahchang 於 10-1-25 20:46 發表
elsa2004
  小女今年小一,剛進gt時,也被幾個頑皮的小孩欺負,後來老師幫忙留意後,就沒再發生了,但我朋友孩子唸的是一所傳統官校,據她所言,這種事老師唔得空理....所以,我很感激老師的幫助...我想,小朋友六年都被欺凌, ...

Tigerprawn

put it this way, i think it is difficult to comparison unless there's a boy who has studied at both schools.

ecore

原帖由 elsa2004 於 10-1-26 15:17 發表
至於TSA(全港性系統評估)，就是這個評估的成績影响到這校的派位，因為教育處是用兩年前的成績來離定這年的派位分配率 ( http://www.edb.gov.hk/index.aspx?nodeID=1565&langno=2 )
...

對不起，這點並不正確！

在2005年及以前，小學的派位分配率(即banding %)應是以? 2001(年份可能記錯!)前的學能測試分配。因此 <10年具小六畢業生的小學一概以1/3,1/3,1/3分配！

由2006年開始，則以應屆的畢業生在中學的分班試成績作往後的師弟/妹的banding 分配率。因此很多小學都甚為緊張畢業生的中一分班試！
教育局強調TSA只作學校教學成效的參考，並不會影響派位分配率！

況且GT的TSA成績甚為理想！

每所學校都適合不同的學生及家長，冀望每位孩子都能開心學習！

[ 本帖最後由 ecore 於 10-1-26 23:00 編輯 ]

enidchiu

Agreed! My child has got many positive values since he entered GT. I can observe that the school really put a lot of effort to cultivate positive values like mutual appreciation, doing one's best, helping others, self-reflection... In September, my child had problems making friends. But I told him that if he is good to others, they will like make friends with him. Now, he has found satisfaction sharing and helping others. He told me that he considered all classmates to be friends and he loved them all. He told me that me one or two classmates are sometimes noisy in class but he appreciates them for their generosity. He became more mature in these few months. Thanks to the teachers of GT, especially the moral education teacher-in-charge.

原帖由 leahchang 於 10-1-25 20:46 發表
elsa2004
  小女今年小一,剛進gt時,也被幾個頑皮的小孩欺負,後來老師幫忙留意後,就沒再發生了,但我朋友孩子唸的是一所傳統官校,據她所言,這種事老師唔得空理....所以,我很感激老師的幫助...我想,小朋友六年都被欺凌, ...

hifing

I don't know much about GT, but my nephew studied in DBS and DBSPD before. He is also a very smart boy and performed very well in HKCEE and sports.

I think very few parents would neglect the achievements of DBS in different aspects. GT would surely need to take a long time to proof similar status.

Unclejt

Are you sure that it is DBSPD?  The school was founded in 2004, it seems a bit too early for her graduates to have taken HKCEE.

hifing

Sorry, I should then mix up with 拔萃小學.

Isaacmommy

Choose DBS of course!
A friend of mine is a very senior doctor in his 50's. Even at this stage of his career, he would still be asked by other doctors,"Which school are you from? King's, DBS or St Paul Co-ed?"

He said that graduates from the elite schools such as DBS have a much better old boys network.

ANChan59

原帖由 iamderek 於 10-1-25 22:42 發表
I think this is the proof.

況且優才中、小學部的兩位校長，數位主任、以及李教授的子女全是GT學生。他們既是教職員也是家長，相信在其他學校甚為罕見！

Do you think the boys of DBS school staff won't send their kids to DBSPD or DBS?

happycj

I hope I can clean up your borders about the factor of "rich" pupils.
Don't worry.  DBSPD is not a 100% rich people club.
I used to have primary classmates who went into DBS [secondary school].  They were just from regular family.  They could do well at school and finish a local university.

There are definitely pressure from the rich pupils.  They have good family support to achieve school requirement -- home music teachers, tutors... But in which school would that not happen?   When you live in a group, you also have pressure from your rich friends/colleagues.  Do you change a job or move a house because of these?
Indeed when everyone puts on the same uniform [this is one very good thing on "school uniform"], the competition for boys is always back on the academic/school activities.  My experience is that those who show off of their vacations/stationery are normally performing bad at school [They have no academic things to show off].  DBSPD is a good school.  When the school chooses your [or your friend's] kid, it means the school would find the kid smart and has enough talent to study there.  


[quote]原帖由 csonliuson2000 於 10-1-19 16:06 發表
For DBSPD

1.It has a good reputation but the disadvantage is
I am not rich so I and my son have the pressure from the rich.

elizatyy

原帖由 whatdrivesyou 於 10-1-29 23:36 發表
seems that many think students in DBSPD all come from very rich families.. but this is not true. although some of them are really rich, but in fact the majority are middle class

personally i dont thi ...

The "very rich" families will choose Intl Schools